Pitching in 20 Needs a Major Overhaul
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@doobiebross66-72 said in Pitching in 20 Needs a Major Overhaul:
@TheHungryHole said in Pitching in 20 Needs a Major Overhaul:
@PrsRoxs said in Pitching in 20 Needs a Major Overhaul:
Personally disagree with you on analog pitching needing to be more precise. Imo they improved it greatly in 19 . I actually can miss once and a while and walk someone , was way too dominating before. I actually think that they need to make it even harder to hit your spots.
absolutely...... you are the voice of reason in this ridiculous thread
Lol can you provide input as to why you think it’s ridiculous? I genuinely would like to know your logic behind the comment
the other guy already said it just re-read what he said and digest as you seem to still be confused
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@PrsRoxs said in Pitching in 20 Needs a Major Overhaul:
My understanding is that the controls work the same online as offline and I just don’t want the game messed up because someone wants to cheese online to dominate others , if it doesn’t work the same online as offline then I apologize . I have zero interest to play garbage baseball online wether I am good or bad at it so that really doesn’t matter to me
No worries, I figured you weren't aware. The physical controls are the same, but it behaves entirely differently, for some reason. It's hard to explain and I'd encourage you to see for yourself. I think we all want the same thing here, which is for user input to matter more when using analog.
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@doobiebross66-72 said in Pitching in 20 Needs a Major Overhaul:
@PrsRoxs said in Pitching in 20 Needs a Major Overhaul:
Personally disagree with you on analog pitching needing to be more precise. Imo they improved it greatly in 19 . I actually can miss once and a while and walk someone , was way too dominating before. I actually think that they need to make it even harder to hit your spots.
We’ll just agree to disagree there. Respect your opinion and input but pitchers with higher control ratings should be able to pinpoint more often than not
they pinpoint just fine i completely disagree with you to each their own
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@TheHungryHole said in Pitching in 20 Needs a Major Overhaul:
@doobiebross66-72 said in Pitching in 20 Needs a Major Overhaul:
@PrsRoxs said in Pitching in 20 Needs a Major Overhaul:
Personally disagree with you on analog pitching needing to be more precise. Imo they improved it greatly in 19 . I actually can miss once and a while and walk someone , was way too dominating before. I actually think that they need to make it even harder to hit your spots.
We’ll just agree to disagree there. Respect your opinion and input but pitchers with higher control ratings should be able to pinpoint more often than not
they pinpoint just fine i completely disagree with you to each their own
Wholeheartedly disagree.
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@SefarR said in Pitching in 20 Needs a Major Overhaul:
@TheHungryHole said in Pitching in 20 Needs a Major Overhaul:
@doobiebross66-72 said in Pitching in 20 Needs a Major Overhaul:
@PrsRoxs said in Pitching in 20 Needs a Major Overhaul:
Personally disagree with you on analog pitching needing to be more precise. Imo they improved it greatly in 19 . I actually can miss once and a while and walk someone , was way too dominating before. I actually think that they need to make it even harder to hit your spots.
We’ll just agree to disagree there. Respect your opinion and input but pitchers with higher control ratings should be able to pinpoint more often than not
they pinpoint just fine i completely disagree with you to each their own
Wholeheartedly disagree.
we usually agree on many things so its not a big deal here lol
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My Spots consistently got worst after the mid year patches. Maybe it’s me, but I used to win a lot of low scoring games. Now not
Soo much, now I play less, I care less and maybe that has a lot to do with it, but on some level something changed and it did not favor my play style ... another offseason where I need to get gud I assume -
I can say from an OFFLINE perspective, I would have perfect release using a high control pitcher and it went nowhere near where I placed it.
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@TheHungryHole said in Pitching in 20 Needs a Major Overhaul:
@doobiebross66-72 said in Pitching in 20 Needs a Major Overhaul:
@TheHungryHole said in Pitching in 20 Needs a Major Overhaul:
@PrsRoxs said in Pitching in 20 Needs a Major Overhaul:
Personally disagree with you on analog pitching needing to be more precise. Imo they improved it greatly in 19 . I actually can miss once and a while and walk someone , was way too dominating before. I actually think that they need to make it even harder to hit your spots.
absolutely...... you are the voice of reason in this ridiculous thread
Lol can you provide input as to why you think it’s ridiculous? I genuinely would like to know your logic behind the comment
the other guy already said it just re-read what he said and digest as you seem to still be confused
@TheHungryHole said in Pitching in 20 Needs a Major Overhaul:
@doobiebross66-72 said in Pitching in 20 Needs a Major Overhaul:
@TheHungryHole said in Pitching in 20 Needs a Major Overhaul:
@PrsRoxs said in Pitching in 20 Needs a Major Overhaul:
Personally disagree with you on analog pitching needing to be more precise. Imo they improved it greatly in 19 . I actually can miss once and a while and walk someone , was way too dominating before. I actually think that they need to make it even harder to hit your spots.
absolutely...... you are the voice of reason in this ridiculous thread
Lol can you provide input as to why you think it’s ridiculous? I genuinely would like to know your logic behind the comment
the other guy already said it just re-read what he said and digest as you seem to still be confused
Glad to see you still can’t provide any logical, constructive feedback on this topic lol
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@doobiebross66-72 said in Pitching in 20 Needs a Major Overhaul:
@TheHungryHole said in Pitching in 20 Needs a Major Overhaul:
@doobiebross66-72 said in Pitching in 20 Needs a Major Overhaul:
@TheHungryHole said in Pitching in 20 Needs a Major Overhaul:
@PrsRoxs said in Pitching in 20 Needs a Major Overhaul:
Personally disagree with you on analog pitching needing to be more precise. Imo they improved it greatly in 19 . I actually can miss once and a while and walk someone , was way too dominating before. I actually think that they need to make it even harder to hit your spots.
absolutely...... you are the voice of reason in this ridiculous thread
Lol can you provide input as to why you think it’s ridiculous? I genuinely would like to know your logic behind the comment
the other guy already said it just re-read what he said and digest as you seem to still be confused
@TheHungryHole said in Pitching in 20 Needs a Major Overhaul:
@doobiebross66-72 said in Pitching in 20 Needs a Major Overhaul:
@TheHungryHole said in Pitching in 20 Needs a Major Overhaul:
@PrsRoxs said in Pitching in 20 Needs a Major Overhaul:
Personally disagree with you on analog pitching needing to be more precise. Imo they improved it greatly in 19 . I actually can miss once and a while and walk someone , was way too dominating before. I actually think that they need to make it even harder to hit your spots.
absolutely...... you are the voice of reason in this ridiculous thread
Lol can you provide input as to why you think it’s ridiculous? I genuinely would like to know your logic behind the comment
the other guy already said it just re-read what he said and digest as you seem to still be confused
Glad to see you still can’t provide any logical, constructive feedback on this topic lol
of course you are absolutely useless as well - you are too lazy to even read the earlier guys post on it which summed up nicely
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Pitching against the computer is so easy. You still miss spots and hangbpitches, but not like in dd. My motto on pitching online is throw and hope it’s not destroyed.
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@doobiebross66-72 said in Pitching in 20 Needs a Major Overhaul:
Pitching this year is just plain bad.
I know I’m beating a dead horse here but I really hope SDS removes the terrible RNG outcomes to pitching for next years game.
Can’t tell you how many times I’ve hit my marks on the meter (analog) going down and up, only to have the pitch end up in a totally different location.
It’s impossible to throw a low change up or curveball below the zone. It either goes in the dirt or is hung in the lower third.
Had times where I get “early” on the meter and the pitch goes lower and vice versa. It’s a joke how much they took the control out of our hands for pitching this year.
Please SDS, take a hard look at pitching and make it better in 20
Ratings and confidence come into play, sir.
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@Kalonkjb said in Pitching in 20 Needs a Major Overhaul:
@doobiebross66-72 said in Pitching in 20 Needs a Major Overhaul:
Pitching this year is just plain bad.
I know I’m beating a dead horse here but I really hope SDS removes the terrible RNG outcomes to pitching for next years game.
Can’t tell you how many times I’ve hit my marks on the meter (analog) going down and up, only to have the pitch end up in a totally different location.
It’s impossible to throw a low change up or curveball below the zone. It either goes in the dirt or is hung in the lower third.
Had times where I get “early” on the meter and the pitch goes lower and vice versa. It’s a joke how much they took the control out of our hands for pitching this year.
Please SDS, take a hard look at pitching and make it better in 20
Ratings and confidence come into play, sir.
Considering this happens with 99 ovr pitchers from the beginning of the games your argument is invalid
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I strictly play DD RS, and can say that analog pitching for online gameplay is straight garbage.
This is indisputable not because I say so, but because anybody who has played online has experienced it themselves.. Pitch control is horrendous regardless of the pitcher's control attributes.
I think we can all agree that if we aim to hit the outside corner of the plate for a strike, that's where it should go, and not outside the zone for a ball, or right down the middle of the plate, or even worse, hit the batter. If you think we shouldn't be able to hit the spot we aim for every time, fine, I'm ok with that. But missing it more times than not is frustrating and nonsense which is how it currently plays. Like I said, straight garbage.
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I think pitching vs humans is easier. The humans I've played are not patient at all. I can throw the worst pitches off the plate, and they swing. The cpu forces me to throw strikes
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@snakesrighteye said in Pitching in 20 Needs a Major Overhaul:
I think pitching vs humans is easier. The humans I've played are not patient at all. I can throw the worst pitches off the plate, and they swing. The cpu forces me to throw strikes
That's because you're playing against scrubs which is expected when you're online rating is only 309.
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Hitting was too OP at the end of the year, I’ve stopped playing until ‘20 is almost released, it’s good to take a break, but I also hope they address this issue as it’s pretty major for me. I don’t want to see all these 6+ ERA in next years RS, it’s stupid. At this point the game isn’t about being good at baseball, using legitimate strategies and pitching well to beat your opponent, it’s merely a test of your ability to outslug your opponent. It’s a hitting simulator with very little focus on the nuances of baseball. It doesn’t matter where you pitch, how you set up your defense, which defensive substitutions you make in the later stages etc if the game is going to force you to make a scripted error followed by a meatball on good input that sails out for a home run. As I said, it’s a big problem to me personally.
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I actually love the pure analog pitching. It’s one of the best features in any sports game out there. If anybody out there is playing this game and isn’t using pure analog pitching, Phewf!! You must at least give it a fair chance to win you over. No location is off limits with any pitch, some spots can be super hard to time making them not worth the risk of even trying it. Pure analog pitching gives the user 100% control of their result. Executing is the other step. To make sure you don’t hang a curveball, or something off speed below the zone, be certain that if you make absolute certain that your Pitching Line gets passed your bar to make sure the ball misses below the zone if it misses... rather than trying to be perfect with every pitch and missing the wrong pitches in the wrong spots. You control your misses. If you release before the bar then your pitch is going to be high, below the bar and it will be low. This is assuming that on your follow through you don’t do something bananas. Same goes with the red circle. If you miss left of it your pitch will miss left, and vise-versa. Missing both targets can lead to some lesser than ideal results... but that should be expected by anyone breathing.
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@olMr_E_ said in Pitching in 20 Needs a Major Overhaul:
Pure analog pitching gives the user 100% control of their result. Executing is the other step. To make sure you don’t hang a curveball, or something off speed below the zone, be certain that if you make absolute certain that your Pitching Line gets passed your bar to make sure the ball misses below the zone if it misses... rather than trying to be perfect with every pitch and missing the wrong pitches in the wrong spots. You control your misses. If you release before the bar then your pitch is going to be high, below the bar and it will be low. This is assuming that on your follow through you don’t do something bananas. Same goes with the red circle. If you miss left of it your pitch will miss left, and vise-versa. Missing both targets can lead to some lesser than ideal results... but that should be expected by anyone breathing.
This is not true. It used to be true in MLB 15 and 16 and I wish it was still the case, but it is simply not.
Perfect good/good input can easily (and frequently does) end up in an entirely different location than intended by the user, pitches released too late end up higher up in the zone than intended (which should be physically impossible) and pitches released too early end up lower in the zone than intended (equally impossible). Some pitches have a tendency to gravitate to the middle of the zone seemingly without any explanation.
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The game tries too hard to even out the playing field in online play. However, that is what the different ratings for season play is for. Pitching should not be punishable attribute to help an opponent stay in the game like it is this year. For example, I would say I am in the upper tier of pitching. I find myself to be very good at it but I am a horrible hitter. I will never make the WS and that is ok. That is where the playing field should even itself out...in the match rankings.
