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    Hi everyone!

    I'm working on some research i'm using for a college comp sci class, and I'd love to hear opinions.

    Here's the data I seek:

    Most underrated pitcher of the 21st century?

    I'm working on a leverage index on individual pitches, so name some post '90s high stress moments. (E.g. Should a changeup be the pitch thrown in a 3-1 count in the WS?) (E.g. Rajai Davis 2016 HR in WS Gm7)

    Do you think there is a certain stat that can be linked to a team's window? (e.g. is a team having a .10 higher OBP than average more likely to be in contention for x more years than another who is at league average?)

    I understand there may be other flaws to this data, but given that it is just to start and not serious sabermetric analysis yet, I'd appreciate it anyways!

    Thanks! I wish you all a great, safe day! I hope for a good game tonight, regardless of who you root for!

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    I can't really help you with your 2nd 2 questions, but the most underrated pitcher of the 21st century IMO is either Zack Greinke or CC Sabathia

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    @the_dragon1912 said in Data Collection (Optional):

    I can't really help you with your 2nd 2 questions, but the most underrated pitcher of the 21st century IMO is either Zack Greinke or CC Sabathia

    Underrated? Those pitchers were both aces and commanded multi year high AV contracts. There has been hall of fame discussions on baseball tonight for both of those pitchers! I would say someone like Rich Hill or Tim Hudson would better fit the bill.

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    @koufax_yourself said in Data Collection (Optional):

    @the_dragon1912 said in Data Collection (Optional):

    I can't really help you with your 2nd 2 questions, but the most underrated pitcher of the 21st century IMO is either Zack Greinke or CC Sabathia

    Underrated? Those pitchers were both aces and commanded multi year high AV contracts. There has been hall of fame discussions on baseball tonight for both of those pitchers! I would say someone like Rich Hill or Tim Hudson would better fit the bill.

    Greinke deserves discussion for HOF, as I can see him going either way. The fact their is a HOF discussion for Sabathia is why he is underrated. There are 5 members of the 3000 strikeout club that aren't in the HOF:Clemens and Schilling(obvious reasons why they aren't in), Verlander and Scherzer(who are generally considered locks to be in the HOF), and Sabathia, who people seem to be on the fence about. I think he should be a lock to make it in the HOF. Greinke just doesn't get the same respect as Verlander, Scherzer, Kershaw do. I think he deserves to be in discussion with those 3 more often

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    @the_dragon1912 said in Data Collection (Optional):

    @koufax_yourself said in Data Collection (Optional):

    @the_dragon1912 said in Data Collection (Optional):

    I can't really help you with your 2nd 2 questions, but the most underrated pitcher of the 21st century IMO is either Zack Greinke or CC Sabathia

    Underrated? Those pitchers were both aces and commanded multi year high AV contracts. There has been hall of fame discussions on baseball tonight for both of those pitchers! I would say someone like Rich Hill or Tim Hudson would better fit the bill.

    Greinke deserves discussion for HOF, as I can see him going either way. The fact their is a HOF discussion for Sabathia is why he is underrated. There are 5 members of the 3000 strikeout club that aren't in the HOF:Clemens and Schilling(obvious reasons why they aren't in), Verlander and Scherzer(who are generally considered locks to be in the HOF), and Sabathia, who people seem to be on the fence about. I think he should be a lock to make it in the HOF. Greinke just doesn't get the same respect as Verlander, Scherzer, Kershaw do. I think he deserves to be in discussion with those 3 more often

    I get your point. We have different perspectives. If you win a Cy Young, I cant possibly say thats underated.

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