12-6 curveball? I don't think that pitch exists.
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I've played and coached baseball for many years. I played catcher my whole life, Little League through high school varsity, a number of years playing NABA and MSBL,, I'm a certified umpire and spent a season as a bullpen catcher for the triple A Co. Springs Sky Sox. I have never in my life seen a 12-6 curveball. As a bullpen catcher, I caught curveballs, knucklecurves, which really are no different than a curveball, some pitchers get better results with the knuckle, sliders, change ups, splitters, everything, and they all look basically the same from any pitcher. The movement on fastballs at that level are much more unique to each pitcher, but I've never seen, known or caught a pitch that drops straight down to the degree this game calls a 12-6 "curveball." And I've caught some nasty changeups and splitters.
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Barry Zito’s curveball looked 12-6 to me, could be wrong though.
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@mcgalamaad_psn said in 12-6 curveball? I don't think that pitch exists.:
Barry Zito’s curveball looked 12-6 to me, could be wrong though.
Dude, I was literally typing Barry Zito when you posted haha
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Adam Wainwright
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@smalltownkid1990 said in 12-6 curveball? I don't think that pitch exists.:
@mcgalamaad_psn said in 12-6 curveball? I don't think that pitch exists.:
Barry Zito’s curveball looked 12-6 to me, could be wrong though.
Dude, I was literally typing Barry Zito when you posted haha
He’s the first guy I think of when I hear 12-6 lmao
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Personally Glasnows curve looks like a 12-6 to me. I might be bugging, but it looks like it drops straight down.
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Mike Mussina’s knucklecurve looked 12-6 too
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Clayton Kershaw looks 12-6
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Caught a guy in college who threw a 12-6. It may not be literally 12-6 but there are certainly guys who have more downward movement as opposed to side to side on their hook.
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Most of these have the 12-6 curveball vertical drop!
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Nick Pivetta has a 12-6
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This guy named Nolan thought it existed...
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Rick Mahler definitely had one
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@dap1234567890 said in 12-6 curveball? I don't think that pitch exists.:
Most of these have the 12-6 curveball vertical drop!
Which really should lead to more of this:
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The curveball is like beauty, in the eye of the beholder. Ive even heard it said the curveball didnt exist. But that was before ESPN . LOL
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Can’t believe no one has mentioned Bert Blyleven. Probably one of the most famous 12-6 hammers
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Blyleven yes indeed. There have been many . Im 64 , Ive seen some hooks. Had a nice one myself when the world was flat.
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@crashbowman447_psn said in 12-6 curveball? I don't think that pitch exists.:
This guy named Nolan thought it existed...
Yeah this is pretty good evidence that there is, indeed a 12-6 curveball lol
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Nolan Ryan, Clemens, and Verlander come to mind.
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Tom Gordon and Greg Olson also had nasty 12-6 'ers
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@stiebfan37_psn said in 12-6 curveball? I don't think that pitch exists.:
Tom Gordon and Greg Olson also had nasty 12-6 'ers
Yeah, Gordon’s was sharp
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@scottd_3ds_psn said in 12-6 curveball? I don't think that pitch exists.:
I've played and coached baseball for many years. I played catcher my whole life, Little League through high school varsity, a number of years playing NABA and MSBL,, I'm a certified umpire and spent a season as a bullpen catcher for the triple A Co. Springs Sky Sox. I have never in my life seen a 12-6 curveball. As a bullpen catcher, I caught curveballs, knucklecurves, which really are no different than a curveball, some pitchers get better results with the knuckle, sliders, change ups, splitters, everything, and they all look basically the same from any pitcher. The movement on fastballs at that level are much more unique to each pitcher, but I've never seen, known or caught a pitch that drops straight down to the degree this game calls a 12-6 "curveball." And I've caught some nasty changeups and splitters.
One of the best examples of a 12-6 is AJ Griffin.
I threw it, but it's a lot harder to throw than a regular curve, or a slurve.
Not many throw it.
My son has a good one.
It's murder on your shoulder because you have to bring your thumb over the top of your fingers when you throw it to create that type of spin.
And I think Greinke's "Bloopie" pitch is a 12-6.
You're right, though. Not many people throw a true 12-6.
Check out Griffin on Youtube.
Another problem is that if you leave it up, the results are not good. -
@kwikpoppa_psn said in 12-6 curveball? I don't think that pitch exists.:
Blyleven yes indeed. There have been many . Im 64 , Ive seen some hooks. Had a nice one myself when the world was flat.
Good one buddy
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@scottd_3ds_psn said in 12-6 curveball? I don't think that pitch exists.:
@kwikpoppa_psn said in 12-6 curveball? I don't think that pitch exists.:
Blyleven yes indeed. There have been many . Im 64 , Ive seen some hooks. Had a nice one myself when the world was flat.
Good one buddy
This is the post of the year.
I laughed out loud.
Did you throw a "trouble ball" as well?
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@misfits_138_1_psn said in 12-6 curveball? I don't think that pitch exists.:
@scottd_3ds_psn said in 12-6 curveball? I don't think that pitch exists.:
I've played and coached baseball for many years. I played catcher my whole life, Little League through high school varsity, a number of years playing NABA and MSBL,, I'm a certified umpire and spent a season as a bullpen catcher for the triple A Co. Springs Sky Sox. I have never in my life seen a 12-6 curveball. As a bullpen catcher, I caught curveballs, knucklecurves, which really are no different than a curveball, some pitchers get better results with the knuckle, sliders, change ups, splitters, everything, and they all look basically the same from any pitcher. The movement on fastballs at that level are much more unique to each pitcher, but I've never seen, known or caught a pitch that drops straight down to the degree this game calls a 12-6 "curveball." And I've caught some nasty changeups and splitters.
One of the best examples of a 12-6 is AJ Griffin.
I threw it, but it's a lot harder to throw than a regular curve, or a slurve.
Not many throw it.
My son has a good one.
It's murder on your shoulder because you have to bring your thumb over the top of your fingers when you throw it to create that type of spin.
And I think Greinke's "Bloopie" pitch is a 12-6.
You're right, though. Not many people throw a true 12-6.
Check out Griffin on Youtube.
Another problem is that if you leave it up, the results are not good.Idk, I checked out Griffin, amazing breaking ball,, but more 12-7:30. Good example of a nasty curveball though. Thanks for your comment and the AJ Griffin reference.
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