Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing
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It’s been a good year with cards, but they’re leaving so many signature cards out of the game. Players that deserved it more than some of the low signatures. This game has 2 months left of playing time until the new one comes out and it’s hard to think that they will release all of these cards. Unless they do a Conquest program that brings 10 signatures, that would be nice.
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@SefarR said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
The title is pretty self-explanatory. If you could choose 5 more signature series cards (that SDS has the rights to) to still arrive before we move onto MLB 20, which ones would you choose?
For myself, the list would the following:
Orel Hershiser
- Realistically speaking, even if he did get a SS card they wouldn't be able to boost his /9's much (career best WHIP 1.052 and K/9 6.5) unless they totally abandon reality, but we could still expect some increases to his 92 version even with respect /9's. We might also see a bit of a boost to his fastball velocity, break and stamina.
Brett Saberhagen
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Statistically speaking - and also accolades-wise - Saberhagen had a significantly better career than Hershiser (also compared to most other pitchers). His '89 season was actually very good with a WHIP of 0.961 and a FIP of 2.45 - his K/9 that year wasn't anything insane (6.6) but he got it up to 7.5 at his best.
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We could expect to see a quite a high H/9 stat and quite a bit lower K/9 stat with great control. In his early years he could also throw quite hard so we could expect his fastball to reach 97 mph (especially given how SS cards have been boosted).
Goose Gossage
- This would be close to what his immortal card was last year - nearly perfect P/9's and better control than his 95 version.
Andruw Jones
- This is a highly anticipated card (also by me), but realistically speaking he probably wouldn't make into any other teams than theme lineups at this point (his contact and vision would simply be too low). This is probably why SDS added his 91 card so early as it actually gave a nice window to use his card when there wasn't that many better options out there.
Rob Dibble
- This is just a personal favorite of mine - we could expect small increases into his /9's, but I suppose for him to be included into most people's lineups SDS would have to give him a change-up (after which he would be an absolute beast).
I will only accept a Rob Dibble SS if he gives up a homerun it allows you to throw the next pitch into the crowd.
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Betts- Best current all round player not named Mike Trout
Gossage-We need more top end SS relievers
Aroldis-Chapman (Wagner is currently only SS lefty reliever)
Andruw Jones-I think this is also major over site, one of the best fielding CFs
Joe Torre-Having him also rated at 3B might be niceFor 2020
Pedro
Big Unit
Roy Halladay
Carlton Fisk
Mickey Mantle
Eddy Collins
Arky Vaughn
Josh Gibson
Satchel Paige -
Giambi (I smash with his high diamond, the vision just isn't very good on HOF and above)
Kenny Lofton (I used the Collection Lofton for a large part of the first half of the year)
Goose Gossage
Not a signature series, would likely just be a 2018 flashback, but Mookie Betts would be nice.
Zobrist probably if I had to pick a 5th -
@Baracesilk said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
@SefarR said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
The title is pretty self-explanatory. If you could choose 5 more signature series cards (that SDS has the rights to) to still arrive before we move onto MLB 20, which ones would you choose?
For myself, the list would the following:
Orel Hershiser
- Realistically speaking, even if he did get a SS card they wouldn't be able to boost his /9's much (career best WHIP 1.052 and K/9 6.5) unless they totally abandon reality, but we could still expect some increases to his 92 version even with respect /9's. We might also see a bit of a boost to his fastball velocity, break and stamina.
Brett Saberhagen
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Statistically speaking - and also accolades-wise - Saberhagen had a significantly better career than Hershiser (also compared to most other pitchers). His '89 season was actually very good with a WHIP of 0.961 and a FIP of 2.45 - his K/9 that year wasn't anything insane (6.6) but he got it up to 7.5 at his best.
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We could expect to see a quite a high H/9 stat and quite a bit lower K/9 stat with great control. In his early years he could also throw quite hard so we could expect his fastball to reach 97 mph (especially given how SS cards have been boosted).
Goose Gossage
- This would be close to what his immortal card was last year - nearly perfect P/9's and better control than his 95 version.
Andruw Jones
- This is a highly anticipated card (also by me), but realistically speaking he probably wouldn't make into any other teams than theme lineups at this point (his contact and vision would simply be too low). This is probably why SDS added his 91 card so early as it actually gave a nice window to use his card when there wasn't that many better options out there.
Rob Dibble
- This is just a personal favorite of mine - we could expect small increases into his /9's, but I suppose for him to be included into most people's lineups SDS would have to give him a change-up (after which he would be an absolute beast).
I will only accept a Rob Dibble SS if he gives up a homerun it allows you to throw the next pitch into the crowd.
Lmao indeed. Also, the throw has to hit a random woman in the stands.
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@Nanthrax_1 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
Brett Saberhagen
- Statistically speaking - and also accolades-wise - Saberhagen had a significantly better career than Hershiser (also compared to most other pitchers). His '89 season was actually very good with a WHIP of 0.961 and a FIP of 2.45 - his K/9 that year wasn't anything insane (6.6) but he got it up to 7.5 at his best.
Statistically and accolades wise, saberhagen was not significantly better at all. Almost identical actually.
Both carried teams to a world series, both were 3x all stars, Bret had 2 Cy Youngs and finished in the top 5 once other than that, Orel with 1, and 3 other top 5 finishes. Both have near identical career WAR, with Bret slightly better FIP and ERA+.
They're very close! Actually a nice comp between the 2.
It depends on how SDS compiles the data to represent in their SS cards. Whereas 2018 Immortal cards were an aggregate of the best years from player's careers, I recall reading somewhere that the SS cards are an aggregate of a players stats over 3 years. If it is 3 consecutive years, then you are absolutely correct. If however we are looking at the players three best years then we must keep in mind that Saberhagen was a pitcher who for whatever reason was only able to put it together in odd numbered years from 1984-1991. After 1991 he saw a general and expected decline due to age/workload. If SDS compiled his data only from odd years (and MLBTS19 is an odd numbered game) Saberhagen would be amongst the best pitchers in the game.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/saberbr01.shtml
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Saberhagen and Tiant
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@rb9andrus said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
Betts- Best current all round player not named Mike Trout
Gossage-We need more top end SS relievers
Aroldis-Chapman (Wagner is currently only SS lefty reliever)
Andruw Jones-I think this is also major over site, one of the best fielding CFs
Joe Torre-Having him also rated at 3B might be niceFor 2020
Pedro
Big Unit
Roy Halladay
Carlton Fisk
Mickey Mantle
Eddy Collins
Arky Vaughn
Josh Gibson
Satchel PaigeBetts really doesn’t need one, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they still give him one. I think Chapman probably would’ve gotten one if he didn’t get the ASG card. You’re also forgetting about Andrew Miller as another lefty SS reliever.
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@DriveByTrucker17 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
@RonnieGant1992 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
Altuve....c'mon...gotta have a better Altuve.
Not really, no. His 2019 PS card is good enough.
Defense is a measley 63 and a 66 reaction...with 70ish speed.
5 time Silver Slugger, 6 time All-Star, MVP, WS Champion, stole over 30 bases 6 consecutive seasons over 50 SB once, GG winner, 30+ bombs in a season, .315 career avg.
29 yrs old...he is right there with Betts in overall WAR.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/a/altuvjo01-field.shtml
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Spahn definitely should have higher than an 89....363 career wins 3.00 ERA.
McGriff and Andruw both deserve better. Esp Andruw.
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@RonnieGant1992 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
Spahn definitely should have higher than an 89....363 career wins 3.00 ERA.
McGriff and Andruw both deserve better. Esp Andruw.
You’re definitely biased, but so right on the money with these. Agree 100%
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@LankyRyan said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
@RonnieGant1992 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
Spahn definitely should have higher than an 89....363 career wins 3.00 ERA.
McGriff and Andruw both deserve better. Esp Andruw.
You’re definitely biased, but so right on the money with these. Agree 100%
I actually suggested Altuve first
I dont think Torre deserves higher card.
Saberhagen and Hershiser maybe...
Betts, JD Martinez prob...I mean Justin Upton has a card $%#
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Brett and Orel would be amazing.
5 others I'd like to see:
Don Mattingly
Hal Newhouser
Jake Arrieta
Pablo Sandoval
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@SefarR said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
The title is pretty self-explanatory. If you could choose 5 more signature series cards (that SDS has the rights to) to still arrive before we move onto MLB 20, which ones would you choose?
For myself, the list would the following:
Orel Hershiser
- Realistically speaking, even if he did get a SS card they wouldn't be able to boost his /9's much (career best WHIP 1.052 and K/9 6.5) unless they totally abandon reality, but we could still expect some increases to his 92 version even with respect /9's. We might also see a bit of a boost to his fastball velocity, break and stamina.
Brett Saberhagen
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Statistically speaking - and also accolades-wise - Saberhagen had a significantly better career than Hershiser (also compared to most other pitchers). His '89 season was actually very good with a WHIP of 0.961 and a FIP of 2.45 - his K/9 that year wasn't anything insane (6.6) but he got it up to 7.5 at his best.
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We could expect to see a quite a high H/9 stat and quite a bit lower K/9 stat with great control. In his early years he could also throw quite hard so we could expect his fastball to reach 97 mph (especially given how SS cards have been boosted).
Goose Gossage
- This would be close to what his immortal card was last year - nearly perfect P/9's and better control than his 95 version.
Andruw Jones
- This is a highly anticipated card (also by me), but realistically speaking he probably wouldn't make into any other teams than theme lineups at this point (his contact and vision would simply be too low). This is probably why SDS added his 91 card so early as it actually gave a nice window to use his card when there wasn't that many better options out there.
Rob Dibble
- This is just a personal favorite of mine - we could expect small increases into his /9's, but I suppose for him to be included into most people's lineups SDS would have to give him a change-up (after which he would be an absolute beast).
As soon as you said realistically speaking you lost touch with the SS ratings of this game. These stats have been crazy unrealistic.
Joe Carter was a 30-30 guy in his prime he needs a better card that is useable.
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@Maverick31762 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
@SefarR said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
The title is pretty self-explanatory. If you could choose 5 more signature series cards (that SDS has the rights to) to still arrive before we move onto MLB 20, which ones would you choose?
For myself, the list would the following:
Orel Hershiser
- Realistically speaking, even if he did get a SS card they wouldn't be able to boost his /9's much (career best WHIP 1.052 and K/9 6.5) unless they totally abandon reality, but we could still expect some increases to his 92 version even with respect /9's. We might also see a bit of a boost to his fastball velocity, break and stamina.
Brett Saberhagen
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Statistically speaking - and also accolades-wise - Saberhagen had a significantly better career than Hershiser (also compared to most other pitchers). His '89 season was actually very good with a WHIP of 0.961 and a FIP of 2.45 - his K/9 that year wasn't anything insane (6.6) but he got it up to 7.5 at his best.
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We could expect to see a quite a high H/9 stat and quite a bit lower K/9 stat with great control. In his early years he could also throw quite hard so we could expect his fastball to reach 97 mph (especially given how SS cards have been boosted).
Goose Gossage
- This would be close to what his immortal card was last year - nearly perfect P/9's and better control than his 95 version.
Andruw Jones
- This is a highly anticipated card (also by me), but realistically speaking he probably wouldn't make into any other teams than theme lineups at this point (his contact and vision would simply be too low). This is probably why SDS added his 91 card so early as it actually gave a nice window to use his card when there wasn't that many better options out there.
Rob Dibble
- This is just a personal favorite of mine - we could expect small increases into his /9's, but I suppose for him to be included into most people's lineups SDS would have to give him a change-up (after which he would be an absolute beast).
As soon as you said realistically speaking you lost touch with the SS ratings of this game. These stats have been crazy unrealistic.
Joe Carter was a 30-30 guy in his prime he needs a better card that is useable.
Joe Carter had a .259 career batting average and a career .779 OPS...with a 105+ OPS. If not for the Game 6 World Series winning Home Run in 1993 vs the Philles he wouldnt even deserve a card.
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@RonnieGant1992 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
@Maverick31762 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
@SefarR said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
The title is pretty self-explanatory. If you could choose 5 more signature series cards (that SDS has the rights to) to still arrive before we move onto MLB 20, which ones would you choose?
For myself, the list would the following:
Orel Hershiser
- Realistically speaking, even if he did get a SS card they wouldn't be able to boost his /9's much (career best WHIP 1.052 and K/9 6.5) unless they totally abandon reality, but we could still expect some increases to his 92 version even with respect /9's. We might also see a bit of a boost to his fastball velocity, break and stamina.
Brett Saberhagen
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Statistically speaking - and also accolades-wise - Saberhagen had a significantly better career than Hershiser (also compared to most other pitchers). His '89 season was actually very good with a WHIP of 0.961 and a FIP of 2.45 - his K/9 that year wasn't anything insane (6.6) but he got it up to 7.5 at his best.
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We could expect to see a quite a high H/9 stat and quite a bit lower K/9 stat with great control. In his early years he could also throw quite hard so we could expect his fastball to reach 97 mph (especially given how SS cards have been boosted).
Goose Gossage
- This would be close to what his immortal card was last year - nearly perfect P/9's and better control than his 95 version.
Andruw Jones
- This is a highly anticipated card (also by me), but realistically speaking he probably wouldn't make into any other teams than theme lineups at this point (his contact and vision would simply be too low). This is probably why SDS added his 91 card so early as it actually gave a nice window to use his card when there wasn't that many better options out there.
Rob Dibble
- This is just a personal favorite of mine - we could expect small increases into his /9's, but I suppose for him to be included into most people's lineups SDS would have to give him a change-up (after which he would be an absolute beast).
As soon as you said realistically speaking you lost touch with the SS ratings of this game. These stats have been crazy unrealistic.
Joe Carter was a 30-30 guy in his prime he needs a better card that is useable.
Joe Carter had a .259 career batting average and a career .779 OPS...with a 105+ OPS. If not for the Game 6 World Series winning Home Run in 1993 vs the Philles he wouldnt even deserve a card.
Yeah people need to realize that Joe Carter was an average to slightly above average player, nothing more.
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@RonnieGant1992 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
@Maverick31762 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
@SefarR said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
The title is pretty self-explanatory. If you could choose 5 more signature series cards (that SDS has the rights to) to still arrive before we move onto MLB 20, which ones would you choose?
For myself, the list would the following:
Orel Hershiser
- Realistically speaking, even if he did get a SS card they wouldn't be able to boost his /9's much (career best WHIP 1.052 and K/9 6.5) unless they totally abandon reality, but we could still expect some increases to his 92 version even with respect /9's. We might also see a bit of a boost to his fastball velocity, break and stamina.
Brett Saberhagen
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Statistically speaking - and also accolades-wise - Saberhagen had a significantly better career than Hershiser (also compared to most other pitchers). His '89 season was actually very good with a WHIP of 0.961 and a FIP of 2.45 - his K/9 that year wasn't anything insane (6.6) but he got it up to 7.5 at his best.
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We could expect to see a quite a high H/9 stat and quite a bit lower K/9 stat with great control. In his early years he could also throw quite hard so we could expect his fastball to reach 97 mph (especially given how SS cards have been boosted).
Goose Gossage
- This would be close to what his immortal card was last year - nearly perfect P/9's and better control than his 95 version.
Andruw Jones
- This is a highly anticipated card (also by me), but realistically speaking he probably wouldn't make into any other teams than theme lineups at this point (his contact and vision would simply be too low). This is probably why SDS added his 91 card so early as it actually gave a nice window to use his card when there wasn't that many better options out there.
Rob Dibble
- This is just a personal favorite of mine - we could expect small increases into his /9's, but I suppose for him to be included into most people's lineups SDS would have to give him a change-up (after which he would be an absolute beast).
As soon as you said realistically speaking you lost touch with the SS ratings of this game. These stats have been crazy unrealistic.
Joe Carter was a 30-30 guy in his prime he needs a better card that is useable.
Joe Carter had a .259 career batting average and a career .779 OPS...with a 105+ OPS. If not for the Game 6 World Series winning Home Run in 1993 vs the Philles he wouldnt even deserve a card.
My response to that is
Alex Gordon
Bill Mazoroski
Jason Kendall
Steve Finley
Rick AnkielI think Joe Carter is good enough
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@Baracesilk said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
@SefarR said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
The title is pretty self-explanatory. If you could choose 5 more signature series cards (that SDS has the rights to) to still arrive before we move onto MLB 20, which ones would you choose?
For myself, the list would the following:
Orel Hershiser
- Realistically speaking, even if he did get a SS card they wouldn't be able to boost his /9's much (career best WHIP 1.052 and K/9 6.5) unless they totally abandon reality, but we could still expect some increases to his 92 version even with respect /9's. We might also see a bit of a boost to his fastball velocity, break and stamina.
Brett Saberhagen
-
Statistically speaking - and also accolades-wise - Saberhagen had a significantly better career than Hershiser (also compared to most other pitchers). His '89 season was actually very good with a WHIP of 0.961 and a FIP of 2.45 - his K/9 that year wasn't anything insane (6.6) but he got it up to 7.5 at his best.
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We could expect to see a quite a high H/9 stat and quite a bit lower K/9 stat with great control. In his early years he could also throw quite hard so we could expect his fastball to reach 97 mph (especially given how SS cards have been boosted).
Goose Gossage
- This would be close to what his immortal card was last year - nearly perfect P/9's and better control than his 95 version.
Andruw Jones
- This is a highly anticipated card (also by me), but realistically speaking he probably wouldn't make into any other teams than theme lineups at this point (his contact and vision would simply be too low). This is probably why SDS added his 91 card so early as it actually gave a nice window to use his card when there wasn't that many better options out there.
Rob Dibble
- This is just a personal favorite of mine - we could expect small increases into his /9's, but I suppose for him to be included into most people's lineups SDS would have to give him a change-up (after which he would be an absolute beast).
I will only accept a Rob Dibble SS if he gives up a homerun it allows you to throw the next pitch into the crowd.
hahaha that would be a fantastic feature in the game - just whips it in rage
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@Maverick31762 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
@RonnieGant1992 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
@Maverick31762 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
@SefarR said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
The title is pretty self-explanatory. If you could choose 5 more signature series cards (that SDS has the rights to) to still arrive before we move onto MLB 20, which ones would you choose?
For myself, the list would the following:
Orel Hershiser
- Realistically speaking, even if he did get a SS card they wouldn't be able to boost his /9's much (career best WHIP 1.052 and K/9 6.5) unless they totally abandon reality, but we could still expect some increases to his 92 version even with respect /9's. We might also see a bit of a boost to his fastball velocity, break and stamina.
Brett Saberhagen
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Statistically speaking - and also accolades-wise - Saberhagen had a significantly better career than Hershiser (also compared to most other pitchers). His '89 season was actually very good with a WHIP of 0.961 and a FIP of 2.45 - his K/9 that year wasn't anything insane (6.6) but he got it up to 7.5 at his best.
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We could expect to see a quite a high H/9 stat and quite a bit lower K/9 stat with great control. In his early years he could also throw quite hard so we could expect his fastball to reach 97 mph (especially given how SS cards have been boosted).
Goose Gossage
- This would be close to what his immortal card was last year - nearly perfect P/9's and better control than his 95 version.
Andruw Jones
- This is a highly anticipated card (also by me), but realistically speaking he probably wouldn't make into any other teams than theme lineups at this point (his contact and vision would simply be too low). This is probably why SDS added his 91 card so early as it actually gave a nice window to use his card when there wasn't that many better options out there.
Rob Dibble
- This is just a personal favorite of mine - we could expect small increases into his /9's, but I suppose for him to be included into most people's lineups SDS would have to give him a change-up (after which he would be an absolute beast).
As soon as you said realistically speaking you lost touch with the SS ratings of this game. These stats have been crazy unrealistic.
Joe Carter was a 30-30 guy in his prime he needs a better card that is useable.
Joe Carter had a .259 career batting average and a career .779 OPS...with a 105+ OPS. If not for the Game 6 World Series winning Home Run in 1993 vs the Philles he wouldnt even deserve a card.
My response to that is
Alex Gordon
Bill Mazoroski
Jason Kendall
Steve Finley
Rick AnkielI think Joe Carter is good enough
Ankiel is literally the only one on your list that is worse than Joe Carter
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@DriveByTrucker17 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
@RonnieGant1992 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
@Maverick31762 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
@SefarR said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
The title is pretty self-explanatory. If you could choose 5 more signature series cards (that SDS has the rights to) to still arrive before we move onto MLB 20, which ones would you choose?
For myself, the list would the following:
Orel Hershiser
- Realistically speaking, even if he did get a SS card they wouldn't be able to boost his /9's much (career best WHIP 1.052 and K/9 6.5) unless they totally abandon reality, but we could still expect some increases to his 92 version even with respect /9's. We might also see a bit of a boost to his fastball velocity, break and stamina.
Brett Saberhagen
-
Statistically speaking - and also accolades-wise - Saberhagen had a significantly better career than Hershiser (also compared to most other pitchers). His '89 season was actually very good with a WHIP of 0.961 and a FIP of 2.45 - his K/9 that year wasn't anything insane (6.6) but he got it up to 7.5 at his best.
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We could expect to see a quite a high H/9 stat and quite a bit lower K/9 stat with great control. In his early years he could also throw quite hard so we could expect his fastball to reach 97 mph (especially given how SS cards have been boosted).
Goose Gossage
- This would be close to what his immortal card was last year - nearly perfect P/9's and better control than his 95 version.
Andruw Jones
- This is a highly anticipated card (also by me), but realistically speaking he probably wouldn't make into any other teams than theme lineups at this point (his contact and vision would simply be too low). This is probably why SDS added his 91 card so early as it actually gave a nice window to use his card when there wasn't that many better options out there.
Rob Dibble
- This is just a personal favorite of mine - we could expect small increases into his /9's, but I suppose for him to be included into most people's lineups SDS would have to give him a change-up (after which he would be an absolute beast).
As soon as you said realistically speaking you lost touch with the SS ratings of this game. These stats have been crazy unrealistic.
Joe Carter was a 30-30 guy in his prime he needs a better card that is useable.
Joe Carter had a .259 career batting average and a career .779 OPS...with a 105+ OPS. If not for the Game 6 World Series winning Home Run in 1993 vs the Philles he wouldnt even deserve a card.
Yeah people need to realize that Joe Carter was an average to slightly above average player, nothing more.
Joe Carter was definitely well above average and borderline HOF possibly extremely underrated. The only people who think otherwise are sabermetrics groupies who don’t understand baseball.
Dude was a lock for 30 homers and 100 rbi for 11 years. 5x all Star 2x silve slugger is NOT what an average or slightly above average MLB player does.
He is the classic guy sabermetrics misses as he performed equally good or better in clutch situations
Besides dude who says no to Carter.259 wants Zobrist .260. Really?
