Ran into my first opponent using a zen

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Here's an impression of what he did with rookie Chapman, who has 0 control, to close the game out. Hit nothing but corners for strikes all game long except for the "occasional miss" by the PAR like the one you see on the bottom below the zone.

Not even gonna talk about how suspicious his hitting was.

https://ibb.co/Zmr5S6y

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Yeah, that looks shady to me

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@mrwonderful95 said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

Yeah, that looks shady to me

I'm usually not one to cry or give attention to these kind of things but this was just straight up impossible.

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@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

@mrwonderful95 said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

Yeah, that looks shady to me

I'm usually not one to cry or give attention to these kind of things but this was just straight up impossible.

It looks like you were probably playing BR but have you noticed how people just constantly dot pitches with guys throwing 100mph in ranked on HOF? It’s crazy

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@mrwonderful95 said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

@mrwonderful95 said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

Yeah, that looks shady to me

I'm usually not one to cry or give attention to these kind of things but this was just straight up impossible.

It looks like you were probably playing BR but have you noticed how people just constantly dot pitches with guys throwing 100mph in ranked on HOF? It’s crazy

It was in BR yes, I mean some guys are just really good using Pinpoint pitching and also most pitchers used on godsquads have decent enough control and BB/9 to paint corners. But a guy like rookie Chapman can never do this, not even with pinpoint in BR.

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I’ve done that with Chapman and do that with all my pitchers.

I’m not saying that to troll but that’s just how easy pinpoint is once you get it down. I don’t know why anyone would ever buy a zen when you can get perfect input for free.

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I don't know. I know his control sucks, but I've used that rookie Chapman in BR and have had similar results with pinpoint.

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@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

I’ve done that with Chapman and do that with all my pitchers.

I’m not saying that to troll but that’s just how easy pinpoint is once you get it down. I don’t know why anyone would ever buy a zen when you can get perfect input for free.

Sorry I'm not buying it. I'm a pretty good pinpoint pitcher myself and you will miss because of the PAR. This was just an impression of Chapman because I wanted to show how he painted with a guy with terrible control, but he didn't miss a single pitch. That's not possible, idc what you tell me I'm not buying it.

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@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

I’ve done that with Chapman and do that with all my pitchers.

I’m not saying that to troll but that’s just how easy pinpoint is once you get it down. I don’t know why anyone would ever buy a zen when you can get perfect input for free.

Sorry I'm not buying it. I'm a pretty good pinpoint pitcher myself and you will miss because of the PAR. This was just an impression of Chapman because I wanted to show how he painted with a guy with terrible control, but he didn't miss a single pitch. That's not possible, idc what you tell me I'm not buying it.

It really is possible. You may have an occasional miss because of PAR but it still generally goes where you locate the ball.

Most importantly though, zen doesn’t rewrite game code. It would have the same PAR region as us who don’t use it

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@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

I’ve done that with Chapman and do that with all my pitchers.

I’m not saying that to troll but that’s just how easy pinpoint is once you get it down. I don’t know why anyone would ever buy a zen when you can get perfect input for free.

Sorry I'm not buying it. I'm a pretty good pinpoint pitcher myself and you will miss because of the PAR. This was just an impression of Chapman because I wanted to show how he painted with a guy with terrible control, but he didn't miss a single pitch. That's not possible, idc what you tell me I'm not buying it.

Zen still uses par my man. I obviously see the problem, and I understand why you think this, and you're probably right.

But, par doesn't go away with an input software.

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So if the guy isn’t using Zen then this is proof pinpoint needs some type of adjustment. You shouldn’t be able to dot pitches like that with this particular card or even his LS card. Chapman is a great player but he doesn’t have “pinpoint” control. Save that for guys like Maddux or even Cliff Lee for that matter.

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@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

I’ve done that with Chapman and do that with all my pitchers.

I’m not saying that to troll but that’s just how easy pinpoint is once you get it down. I don’t know why anyone would ever buy a zen when you can get perfect input for free.

Sorry I'm not buying it. I'm a pretty good pinpoint pitcher myself and you will miss because of the PAR. This was just an impression of Chapman because I wanted to show how he painted with a guy with terrible control, but he didn't miss a single pitch. That's not possible, idc what you tell me I'm not buying it.

It really is possible. You may have an occasional miss because of PAR but it still generally goes where you locate the ball.

Most importantly though, zen doesn’t rewrite game code. It would have the same PAR region as us who don’t use it

I understand what you're saying, because I've been telling people the exact same thing. And yet if you would've been in my position and faced this dude, I'm fairly certain you'd leave with the same impression. I hit perfects with 100% accuracy, perfect timing and 0 angle and still throw a ball half the time because that's just how the game is. Everyone will. This guy didn't.

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@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

I’ve done that with Chapman and do that with all my pitchers.

I’m not saying that to troll but that’s just how easy pinpoint is once you get it down. I don’t know why anyone would ever buy a zen when you can get perfect input for free.

Sorry I'm not buying it. I'm a pretty good pinpoint pitcher myself and you will miss because of the PAR. This was just an impression of Chapman because I wanted to show how he painted with a guy with terrible control, but he didn't miss a single pitch. That's not possible, idc what you tell me I'm not buying it.

It really is possible. You may have an occasional miss because of PAR but it still generally goes where you locate the ball.

Most importantly though, zen doesn’t rewrite game code. It would have the same PAR region as us who don’t use it

I understand what you're saying, because I've been telling people the exact same thing. And yet if you would've been in my position and faced this dude, I'm fairly certain you'd leave with the same impression. I hit perfects with 100% accuracy, perfect timing and 0 angle and still throw a ball half the time because that's just how the game is. Everyone will. This guy didn't.

Extremely small sample size to call someone a cheater imo. That’s 11 pitches.

That’s why I’m saying I could do the same. I could hit 11 perfect inputs in a row with Chapman easy on pinpoint (as I’m sure you could too)

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@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

I’ve done that with Chapman and do that with all my pitchers.

I’m not saying that to troll but that’s just how easy pinpoint is once you get it down. I don’t know why anyone would ever buy a zen when you can get perfect input for free.

Sorry I'm not buying it. I'm a pretty good pinpoint pitcher myself and you will miss because of the PAR. This was just an impression of Chapman because I wanted to show how he painted with a guy with terrible control, but he didn't miss a single pitch. That's not possible, idc what you tell me I'm not buying it.

It really is possible. You may have an occasional miss because of PAR but it still generally goes where you locate the ball.

Most importantly though, zen doesn’t rewrite game code. It would have the same PAR region as us who don’t use it

I understand what you're saying, because I've been telling people the exact same thing. And yet if you would've been in my position and faced this dude, I'm fairly certain you'd leave with the same impression. I hit perfects with 100% accuracy, perfect timing and 0 angle and still throw a ball half the time because that's just how the game is. Everyone will. This guy didn't.

Extremely small sample size to call someone a cheater imo. That’s 11 pitches.

That’s why I’m saying I could do the same. I could hit 11 perfect inputs in a row with Chapman easy on pinpoint (as I’m sure you could too)

Then it’s just up to the dice rolls of where it lands but the odds are still heavily favored towards where you place the ball marker.

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I felt the same way when I faced a guy who hit every pitch in an inning. It was worse than yours. It was the yellow dot on all 4 corners. He did miss outside by a baseball margin like twice. It was the most unhittable game I’ve ever played. Maybe RNG was heavily on his side

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@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

I’ve done that with Chapman and do that with all my pitchers.

I’m not saying that to troll but that’s just how easy pinpoint is once you get it down. I don’t know why anyone would ever buy a zen when you can get perfect input for free.

Sorry I'm not buying it. I'm a pretty good pinpoint pitcher myself and you will miss because of the PAR. This was just an impression of Chapman because I wanted to show how he painted with a guy with terrible control, but he didn't miss a single pitch. That's not possible, idc what you tell me I'm not buying it.

It really is possible. You may have an occasional miss because of PAR but it still generally goes where you locate the ball.

Most importantly though, zen doesn’t rewrite game code. It would have the same PAR region as us who don’t use it

I understand what you're saying, because I've been telling people the exact same thing. And yet if you would've been in my position and faced this dude, I'm fairly certain you'd leave with the same impression. I hit perfects with 100% accuracy, perfect timing and 0 angle and still throw a ball half the time because that's just how the game is. Everyone will. This guy didn't.

Extremely small sample size to call someone a cheater imo. That’s 11 pitches.

That’s why I’m saying I could do the same. I could hit 11 perfect inputs in a row with Chapman easy on pinpoint (as I’m sure you could too)

No, you see 11 pitches because that's what I chose to share. The sample size was 3 full innings with no misses and nothing but corners.

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@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

I’ve done that with Chapman and do that with all my pitchers.

I’m not saying that to troll but that’s just how easy pinpoint is once you get it down. I don’t know why anyone would ever buy a zen when you can get perfect input for free.

Sorry I'm not buying it. I'm a pretty good pinpoint pitcher myself and you will miss because of the PAR. This was just an impression of Chapman because I wanted to show how he painted with a guy with terrible control, but he didn't miss a single pitch. That's not possible, idc what you tell me I'm not buying it.

It really is possible. You may have an occasional miss because of PAR but it still generally goes where you locate the ball.

Most importantly though, zen doesn’t rewrite game code. It would have the same PAR region as us who don’t use it

I understand what you're saying, because I've been telling people the exact same thing. And yet if you would've been in my position and faced this dude, I'm fairly certain you'd leave with the same impression. I hit perfects with 100% accuracy, perfect timing and 0 angle and still throw a ball half the time because that's just how the game is. Everyone will. This guy didn't.

Extremely small sample size to call someone a cheater imo. That’s 11 pitches.

That’s why I’m saying I could do the same. I could hit 11 perfect inputs in a row with Chapman easy on pinpoint (as I’m sure you could too)

No, you see 11 pitches because that's what I chose to share. The sample size was 3 full innings with no misses and nothing but corners.

Probably with other pitchers who have better control but it doesn’t matter anyway

Zens cannot change the code for MLB the Show. It can only provide perfect input which you yourself already said is subject to PAR when you get 100% accuracy, 0 timing, and 0 degrees.

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@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

I’ve done that with Chapman and do that with all my pitchers.

I’m not saying that to troll but that’s just how easy pinpoint is once you get it down. I don’t know why anyone would ever buy a zen when you can get perfect input for free.

Sorry I'm not buying it. I'm a pretty good pinpoint pitcher myself and you will miss because of the PAR. This was just an impression of Chapman because I wanted to show how he painted with a guy with terrible control, but he didn't miss a single pitch. That's not possible, idc what you tell me I'm not buying it.

It really is possible. You may have an occasional miss because of PAR but it still generally goes where you locate the ball.

Most importantly though, zen doesn’t rewrite game code. It would have the same PAR region as us who don’t use it

I understand what you're saying, because I've been telling people the exact same thing. And yet if you would've been in my position and faced this dude, I'm fairly certain you'd leave with the same impression. I hit perfects with 100% accuracy, perfect timing and 0 angle and still throw a ball half the time because that's just how the game is. Everyone will. This guy didn't.

Extremely small sample size to call someone a cheater imo. That’s 11 pitches.

That’s why I’m saying I could do the same. I could hit 11 perfect inputs in a row with Chapman easy on pinpoint (as I’m sure you could too)

No, you see 11 pitches because that's what I chose to share. The sample size was 3 full innings with no misses and nothing but corners.

Probably with other pitchers who have better control but it doesn’t matter anyway

Zens cannot change the code for MLB the Show. It can only provide perfect input which you yourself already said is subject to PAR when you get 100% accuracy, 0 timing, and 0 degrees.

Well neither one of us is going to prove this was or was not going on so the debate is kind of pointless. I play good players often who can pitch very well. I never had the same feeling I had just now. Let's just leave it at that.

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@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

I’ve done that with Chapman and do that with all my pitchers.

I’m not saying that to troll but that’s just how easy pinpoint is once you get it down. I don’t know why anyone would ever buy a zen when you can get perfect input for free.

Sorry I'm not buying it. I'm a pretty good pinpoint pitcher myself and you will miss because of the PAR. This was just an impression of Chapman because I wanted to show how he painted with a guy with terrible control, but he didn't miss a single pitch. That's not possible, idc what you tell me I'm not buying it.

It really is possible. You may have an occasional miss because of PAR but it still generally goes where you locate the ball.

Most importantly though, zen doesn’t rewrite game code. It would have the same PAR region as us who don’t use it

I understand what you're saying, because I've been telling people the exact same thing. And yet if you would've been in my position and faced this dude, I'm fairly certain you'd leave with the same impression. I hit perfects with 100% accuracy, perfect timing and 0 angle and still throw a ball half the time because that's just how the game is. Everyone will. This guy didn't.

Extremely small sample size to call someone a cheater imo. That’s 11 pitches.

That’s why I’m saying I could do the same. I could hit 11 perfect inputs in a row with Chapman easy on pinpoint (as I’m sure you could too)

No, you see 11 pitches because that's what I chose to share. The sample size was 3 full innings with no misses and nothing but corners.

Probably with other pitchers who have better control but it doesn’t matter anyway

Zens cannot change the code for MLB the Show. It can only provide perfect input which you yourself already said is subject to PAR when you get 100% accuracy, 0 timing, and 0 degrees.

Well neither one of us is going to prove this was or was not going on so the debate is kind of pointless. I play good players often who can pitch very well. I never had the same feeling I had just now. Let's just leave it at that.

I’m sorry but I kinda need this debate to go on so I can transition into how pinpoint is way too easy and it needs to be patched to make it more difficult to get perfect inputs lol

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@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:

I’ve done that with Chapman and do that with all my pitchers.

I’m not saying that to troll but that’s just how easy pinpoint is once you get it down. I don’t know why anyone would ever buy a zen when you can get perfect input for free.

Sorry I'm not buying it. I'm a pretty good pinpoint pitcher myself and you will miss because of the PAR. This was just an impression of Chapman because I wanted to show how he painted with a guy with terrible control, but he didn't miss a single pitch. That's not possible, idc what you tell me I'm not buying it.

It really is possible. You may have an occasional miss because of PAR but it still generally goes where you locate the ball.

Most importantly though, zen doesn’t rewrite game code. It would have the same PAR region as us who don’t use it

I understand what you're saying, because I've been telling people the exact same thing. And yet if you would've been in my position and faced this dude, I'm fairly certain you'd leave with the same impression. I hit perfects with 100% accuracy, perfect timing and 0 angle and still throw a ball half the time because that's just how the game is. Everyone will. This guy didn't.

Extremely small sample size to call someone a cheater imo. That’s 11 pitches.

That’s why I’m saying I could do the same. I could hit 11 perfect inputs in a row with Chapman easy on pinpoint (as I’m sure you could too)

No, you see 11 pitches because that's what I chose to share. The sample size was 3 full innings with no misses and nothing but corners.

Probably with other pitchers who have better control but it doesn’t matter anyway

Zens cannot change the code for MLB the Show. It can only provide perfect input which you yourself already said is subject to PAR when you get 100% accuracy, 0 timing, and 0 degrees.

Well neither one of us is going to prove this was or was not going on so the debate is kind of pointless. I play good players often who can pitch very well. I never had the same feeling I had just now. Let's just leave it at that.

I’m sorry but I kinda need this debate to go on so I can transition into how pinpoint is way too easy and it needs to be patched to make it more difficult to get perfect inputs lol

That's fine and all, but don't discredit my experiences and observations just because you have an underlying agenda. You didn't play this game, I did.