Ran into my first opponent using a zen
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@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
I’ve done that with Chapman and do that with all my pitchers.
I’m not saying that to troll but that’s just how easy pinpoint is once you get it down. I don’t know why anyone would ever buy a zen when you can get perfect input for free.
Sorry I'm not buying it. I'm a pretty good pinpoint pitcher myself and you will miss because of the PAR. This was just an impression of Chapman because I wanted to show how he painted with a guy with terrible control, but he didn't miss a single pitch. That's not possible, idc what you tell me I'm not buying it.
Zen still uses par my man. I obviously see the problem, and I understand why you think this, and you're probably right.
But, par doesn't go away with an input software.
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So if the guy isn’t using Zen then this is proof pinpoint needs some type of adjustment. You shouldn’t be able to dot pitches like that with this particular card or even his LS card. Chapman is a great player but he doesn’t have “pinpoint” control. Save that for guys like Maddux or even Cliff Lee for that matter.
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@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
I’ve done that with Chapman and do that with all my pitchers.
I’m not saying that to troll but that’s just how easy pinpoint is once you get it down. I don’t know why anyone would ever buy a zen when you can get perfect input for free.
Sorry I'm not buying it. I'm a pretty good pinpoint pitcher myself and you will miss because of the PAR. This was just an impression of Chapman because I wanted to show how he painted with a guy with terrible control, but he didn't miss a single pitch. That's not possible, idc what you tell me I'm not buying it.
It really is possible. You may have an occasional miss because of PAR but it still generally goes where you locate the ball.
Most importantly though, zen doesn’t rewrite game code. It would have the same PAR region as us who don’t use it
I understand what you're saying, because I've been telling people the exact same thing. And yet if you would've been in my position and faced this dude, I'm fairly certain you'd leave with the same impression. I hit perfects with 100% accuracy, perfect timing and 0 angle and still throw a ball half the time because that's just how the game is. Everyone will. This guy didn't.
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@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
I’ve done that with Chapman and do that with all my pitchers.
I’m not saying that to troll but that’s just how easy pinpoint is once you get it down. I don’t know why anyone would ever buy a zen when you can get perfect input for free.
Sorry I'm not buying it. I'm a pretty good pinpoint pitcher myself and you will miss because of the PAR. This was just an impression of Chapman because I wanted to show how he painted with a guy with terrible control, but he didn't miss a single pitch. That's not possible, idc what you tell me I'm not buying it.
It really is possible. You may have an occasional miss because of PAR but it still generally goes where you locate the ball.
Most importantly though, zen doesn’t rewrite game code. It would have the same PAR region as us who don’t use it
I understand what you're saying, because I've been telling people the exact same thing. And yet if you would've been in my position and faced this dude, I'm fairly certain you'd leave with the same impression. I hit perfects with 100% accuracy, perfect timing and 0 angle and still throw a ball half the time because that's just how the game is. Everyone will. This guy didn't.
Extremely small sample size to call someone a cheater imo. That’s 11 pitches.
That’s why I’m saying I could do the same. I could hit 11 perfect inputs in a row with Chapman easy on pinpoint (as I’m sure you could too)
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@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
I’ve done that with Chapman and do that with all my pitchers.
I’m not saying that to troll but that’s just how easy pinpoint is once you get it down. I don’t know why anyone would ever buy a zen when you can get perfect input for free.
Sorry I'm not buying it. I'm a pretty good pinpoint pitcher myself and you will miss because of the PAR. This was just an impression of Chapman because I wanted to show how he painted with a guy with terrible control, but he didn't miss a single pitch. That's not possible, idc what you tell me I'm not buying it.
It really is possible. You may have an occasional miss because of PAR but it still generally goes where you locate the ball.
Most importantly though, zen doesn’t rewrite game code. It would have the same PAR region as us who don’t use it
I understand what you're saying, because I've been telling people the exact same thing. And yet if you would've been in my position and faced this dude, I'm fairly certain you'd leave with the same impression. I hit perfects with 100% accuracy, perfect timing and 0 angle and still throw a ball half the time because that's just how the game is. Everyone will. This guy didn't.
Extremely small sample size to call someone a cheater imo. That’s 11 pitches.
That’s why I’m saying I could do the same. I could hit 11 perfect inputs in a row with Chapman easy on pinpoint (as I’m sure you could too)
Then it’s just up to the dice rolls of where it lands but the odds are still heavily favored towards where you place the ball marker.
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I felt the same way when I faced a guy who hit every pitch in an inning. It was worse than yours. It was the yellow dot on all 4 corners. He did miss outside by a baseball margin like twice. It was the most unhittable game I’ve ever played. Maybe RNG was heavily on his side
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@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
I’ve done that with Chapman and do that with all my pitchers.
I’m not saying that to troll but that’s just how easy pinpoint is once you get it down. I don’t know why anyone would ever buy a zen when you can get perfect input for free.
Sorry I'm not buying it. I'm a pretty good pinpoint pitcher myself and you will miss because of the PAR. This was just an impression of Chapman because I wanted to show how he painted with a guy with terrible control, but he didn't miss a single pitch. That's not possible, idc what you tell me I'm not buying it.
It really is possible. You may have an occasional miss because of PAR but it still generally goes where you locate the ball.
Most importantly though, zen doesn’t rewrite game code. It would have the same PAR region as us who don’t use it
I understand what you're saying, because I've been telling people the exact same thing. And yet if you would've been in my position and faced this dude, I'm fairly certain you'd leave with the same impression. I hit perfects with 100% accuracy, perfect timing and 0 angle and still throw a ball half the time because that's just how the game is. Everyone will. This guy didn't.
Extremely small sample size to call someone a cheater imo. That’s 11 pitches.
That’s why I’m saying I could do the same. I could hit 11 perfect inputs in a row with Chapman easy on pinpoint (as I’m sure you could too)
No, you see 11 pitches because that's what I chose to share. The sample size was 3 full innings with no misses and nothing but corners.
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@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
I’ve done that with Chapman and do that with all my pitchers.
I’m not saying that to troll but that’s just how easy pinpoint is once you get it down. I don’t know why anyone would ever buy a zen when you can get perfect input for free.
Sorry I'm not buying it. I'm a pretty good pinpoint pitcher myself and you will miss because of the PAR. This was just an impression of Chapman because I wanted to show how he painted with a guy with terrible control, but he didn't miss a single pitch. That's not possible, idc what you tell me I'm not buying it.
It really is possible. You may have an occasional miss because of PAR but it still generally goes where you locate the ball.
Most importantly though, zen doesn’t rewrite game code. It would have the same PAR region as us who don’t use it
I understand what you're saying, because I've been telling people the exact same thing. And yet if you would've been in my position and faced this dude, I'm fairly certain you'd leave with the same impression. I hit perfects with 100% accuracy, perfect timing and 0 angle and still throw a ball half the time because that's just how the game is. Everyone will. This guy didn't.
Extremely small sample size to call someone a cheater imo. That’s 11 pitches.
That’s why I’m saying I could do the same. I could hit 11 perfect inputs in a row with Chapman easy on pinpoint (as I’m sure you could too)
No, you see 11 pitches because that's what I chose to share. The sample size was 3 full innings with no misses and nothing but corners.
Probably with other pitchers who have better control but it doesn’t matter anyway
Zens cannot change the code for MLB the Show. It can only provide perfect input which you yourself already said is subject to PAR when you get 100% accuracy, 0 timing, and 0 degrees.
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@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
I’ve done that with Chapman and do that with all my pitchers.
I’m not saying that to troll but that’s just how easy pinpoint is once you get it down. I don’t know why anyone would ever buy a zen when you can get perfect input for free.
Sorry I'm not buying it. I'm a pretty good pinpoint pitcher myself and you will miss because of the PAR. This was just an impression of Chapman because I wanted to show how he painted with a guy with terrible control, but he didn't miss a single pitch. That's not possible, idc what you tell me I'm not buying it.
It really is possible. You may have an occasional miss because of PAR but it still generally goes where you locate the ball.
Most importantly though, zen doesn’t rewrite game code. It would have the same PAR region as us who don’t use it
I understand what you're saying, because I've been telling people the exact same thing. And yet if you would've been in my position and faced this dude, I'm fairly certain you'd leave with the same impression. I hit perfects with 100% accuracy, perfect timing and 0 angle and still throw a ball half the time because that's just how the game is. Everyone will. This guy didn't.
Extremely small sample size to call someone a cheater imo. That’s 11 pitches.
That’s why I’m saying I could do the same. I could hit 11 perfect inputs in a row with Chapman easy on pinpoint (as I’m sure you could too)
No, you see 11 pitches because that's what I chose to share. The sample size was 3 full innings with no misses and nothing but corners.
Probably with other pitchers who have better control but it doesn’t matter anyway
Zens cannot change the code for MLB the Show. It can only provide perfect input which you yourself already said is subject to PAR when you get 100% accuracy, 0 timing, and 0 degrees.
Well neither one of us is going to prove this was or was not going on so the debate is kind of pointless. I play good players often who can pitch very well. I never had the same feeling I had just now. Let's just leave it at that.
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@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
I’ve done that with Chapman and do that with all my pitchers.
I’m not saying that to troll but that’s just how easy pinpoint is once you get it down. I don’t know why anyone would ever buy a zen when you can get perfect input for free.
Sorry I'm not buying it. I'm a pretty good pinpoint pitcher myself and you will miss because of the PAR. This was just an impression of Chapman because I wanted to show how he painted with a guy with terrible control, but he didn't miss a single pitch. That's not possible, idc what you tell me I'm not buying it.
It really is possible. You may have an occasional miss because of PAR but it still generally goes where you locate the ball.
Most importantly though, zen doesn’t rewrite game code. It would have the same PAR region as us who don’t use it
I understand what you're saying, because I've been telling people the exact same thing. And yet if you would've been in my position and faced this dude, I'm fairly certain you'd leave with the same impression. I hit perfects with 100% accuracy, perfect timing and 0 angle and still throw a ball half the time because that's just how the game is. Everyone will. This guy didn't.
Extremely small sample size to call someone a cheater imo. That’s 11 pitches.
That’s why I’m saying I could do the same. I could hit 11 perfect inputs in a row with Chapman easy on pinpoint (as I’m sure you could too)
No, you see 11 pitches because that's what I chose to share. The sample size was 3 full innings with no misses and nothing but corners.
Probably with other pitchers who have better control but it doesn’t matter anyway
Zens cannot change the code for MLB the Show. It can only provide perfect input which you yourself already said is subject to PAR when you get 100% accuracy, 0 timing, and 0 degrees.
Well neither one of us is going to prove this was or was not going on so the debate is kind of pointless. I play good players often who can pitch very well. I never had the same feeling I had just now. Let's just leave it at that.
I’m sorry but I kinda need this debate to go on so I can transition into how pinpoint is way too easy and it needs to be patched to make it more difficult to get perfect inputs lol
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@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
I’ve done that with Chapman and do that with all my pitchers.
I’m not saying that to troll but that’s just how easy pinpoint is once you get it down. I don’t know why anyone would ever buy a zen when you can get perfect input for free.
Sorry I'm not buying it. I'm a pretty good pinpoint pitcher myself and you will miss because of the PAR. This was just an impression of Chapman because I wanted to show how he painted with a guy with terrible control, but he didn't miss a single pitch. That's not possible, idc what you tell me I'm not buying it.
It really is possible. You may have an occasional miss because of PAR but it still generally goes where you locate the ball.
Most importantly though, zen doesn’t rewrite game code. It would have the same PAR region as us who don’t use it
I understand what you're saying, because I've been telling people the exact same thing. And yet if you would've been in my position and faced this dude, I'm fairly certain you'd leave with the same impression. I hit perfects with 100% accuracy, perfect timing and 0 angle and still throw a ball half the time because that's just how the game is. Everyone will. This guy didn't.
Extremely small sample size to call someone a cheater imo. That’s 11 pitches.
That’s why I’m saying I could do the same. I could hit 11 perfect inputs in a row with Chapman easy on pinpoint (as I’m sure you could too)
No, you see 11 pitches because that's what I chose to share. The sample size was 3 full innings with no misses and nothing but corners.
Probably with other pitchers who have better control but it doesn’t matter anyway
Zens cannot change the code for MLB the Show. It can only provide perfect input which you yourself already said is subject to PAR when you get 100% accuracy, 0 timing, and 0 degrees.
Well neither one of us is going to prove this was or was not going on so the debate is kind of pointless. I play good players often who can pitch very well. I never had the same feeling I had just now. Let's just leave it at that.
I’m sorry but I kinda need this debate to go on so I can transition into how pinpoint is way too easy and it needs to be patched to make it more difficult to get perfect inputs lol
That's fine and all, but don't discredit my experiences and observations just because you have an underlying agenda. You didn't play this game, I did.
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@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
I’ve done that with Chapman and do that with all my pitchers.
I’m not saying that to troll but that’s just how easy pinpoint is once you get it down. I don’t know why anyone would ever buy a zen when you can get perfect input for free.
Sorry I'm not buying it. I'm a pretty good pinpoint pitcher myself and you will miss because of the PAR. This was just an impression of Chapman because I wanted to show how he painted with a guy with terrible control, but he didn't miss a single pitch. That's not possible, idc what you tell me I'm not buying it.
It really is possible. You may have an occasional miss because of PAR but it still generally goes where you locate the ball.
Most importantly though, zen doesn’t rewrite game code. It would have the same PAR region as us who don’t use it
I understand what you're saying, because I've been telling people the exact same thing. And yet if you would've been in my position and faced this dude, I'm fairly certain you'd leave with the same impression. I hit perfects with 100% accuracy, perfect timing and 0 angle and still throw a ball half the time because that's just how the game is. Everyone will. This guy didn't.
Extremely small sample size to call someone a cheater imo. That’s 11 pitches.
That’s why I’m saying I could do the same. I could hit 11 perfect inputs in a row with Chapman easy on pinpoint (as I’m sure you could too)
No, you see 11 pitches because that's what I chose to share. The sample size was 3 full innings with no misses and nothing but corners.
Probably with other pitchers who have better control but it doesn’t matter anyway
Zens cannot change the code for MLB the Show. It can only provide perfect input which you yourself already said is subject to PAR when you get 100% accuracy, 0 timing, and 0 degrees.
Well neither one of us is going to prove this was or was not going on so the debate is kind of pointless. I play good players often who can pitch very well. I never had the same feeling I had just now. Let's just leave it at that.
I’m sorry but I kinda need this debate to go on so I can transition into how pinpoint is way too easy and it needs to be patched to make it more difficult to get perfect inputs lol
That's fine and all, but don't discredit my experiences just because you have an underlying agenda. You didn't play this game, I did.
That was a joke. I don’t have an underlying agenda. You’re too hot right now after a loss if you didn’t see that. Been there myself but you have to relax.
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@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
I’ve done that with Chapman and do that with all my pitchers.
I’m not saying that to troll but that’s just how easy pinpoint is once you get it down. I don’t know why anyone would ever buy a zen when you can get perfect input for free.
Sorry I'm not buying it. I'm a pretty good pinpoint pitcher myself and you will miss because of the PAR. This was just an impression of Chapman because I wanted to show how he painted with a guy with terrible control, but he didn't miss a single pitch. That's not possible, idc what you tell me I'm not buying it.
It really is possible. You may have an occasional miss because of PAR but it still generally goes where you locate the ball.
Most importantly though, zen doesn’t rewrite game code. It would have the same PAR region as us who don’t use it
I understand what you're saying, because I've been telling people the exact same thing. And yet if you would've been in my position and faced this dude, I'm fairly certain you'd leave with the same impression. I hit perfects with 100% accuracy, perfect timing and 0 angle and still throw a ball half the time because that's just how the game is. Everyone will. This guy didn't.
Extremely small sample size to call someone a cheater imo. That’s 11 pitches.
That’s why I’m saying I could do the same. I could hit 11 perfect inputs in a row with Chapman easy on pinpoint (as I’m sure you could too)
No, you see 11 pitches because that's what I chose to share. The sample size was 3 full innings with no misses and nothing but corners.
Probably with other pitchers who have better control but it doesn’t matter anyway
Zens cannot change the code for MLB the Show. It can only provide perfect input which you yourself already said is subject to PAR when you get 100% accuracy, 0 timing, and 0 degrees.
Well neither one of us is going to prove this was or was not going on so the debate is kind of pointless. I play good players often who can pitch very well. I never had the same feeling I had just now. Let's just leave it at that.
I’m sorry but I kinda need this debate to go on so I can transition into how pinpoint is way too easy and it needs to be patched to make it more difficult to get perfect inputs lol
That's fine and all, but don't discredit my experiences just because you have an underlying agenda. You didn't play this game, I did.
That was a joke. I don’t have an underlying agenda. You’re too hot right now after a loss if you didn’t see that. Been there myself but you have to relax.
No I'm sorry if that came out wrong, I'm actually not that upset. I wasn't that deep in a run I just felt cheated and I'm fine and clam, truthfully. I just wanted to say that despite you having an opinion on how it is too easy, doesn't automatically mean that no one uses this stuff.
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@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
I’ve done that with Chapman and do that with all my pitchers.
I’m not saying that to troll but that’s just how easy pinpoint is once you get it down. I don’t know why anyone would ever buy a zen when you can get perfect input for free.
Sorry I'm not buying it. I'm a pretty good pinpoint pitcher myself and you will miss because of the PAR. This was just an impression of Chapman because I wanted to show how he painted with a guy with terrible control, but he didn't miss a single pitch. That's not possible, idc what you tell me I'm not buying it.
It really is possible. You may have an occasional miss because of PAR but it still generally goes where you locate the ball.
Most importantly though, zen doesn’t rewrite game code. It would have the same PAR region as us who don’t use it
I understand what you're saying, because I've been telling people the exact same thing. And yet if you would've been in my position and faced this dude, I'm fairly certain you'd leave with the same impression. I hit perfects with 100% accuracy, perfect timing and 0 angle and still throw a ball half the time because that's just how the game is. Everyone will. This guy didn't.
Extremely small sample size to call someone a cheater imo. That’s 11 pitches.
That’s why I’m saying I could do the same. I could hit 11 perfect inputs in a row with Chapman easy on pinpoint (as I’m sure you could too)
No, you see 11 pitches because that's what I chose to share. The sample size was 3 full innings with no misses and nothing but corners.
Probably with other pitchers who have better control but it doesn’t matter anyway
Zens cannot change the code for MLB the Show. It can only provide perfect input which you yourself already said is subject to PAR when you get 100% accuracy, 0 timing, and 0 degrees.
Well neither one of us is going to prove this was or was not going on so the debate is kind of pointless. I play good players often who can pitch very well. I never had the same feeling I had just now. Let's just leave it at that.
I’m sorry but I kinda need this debate to go on so I can transition into how pinpoint is way too easy and it needs to be patched to make it more difficult to get perfect inputs lol
That's fine and all, but don't discredit my experiences just because you have an underlying agenda. You didn't play this game, I did.
That was a joke. I don’t have an underlying agenda. You’re too hot right now after a loss if you didn’t see that. Been there myself but you have to relax.
No I'm sorry if that came out wrong, I'm actually not that upset. I wasn't that deep in a run I just felt cheated and I'm fine and clam, truthfully. I just wanted to say that despite you having an opinion on how it is too easy, doesn't automatically mean that no one uses this stuff.
That’s true. It’s definitely out there. Just hard to tell in a 3 inning game as I’m sure I’ve had a few pitch charts look like that if I were able to go back and look through all the BR and event games I’ve played.
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@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
I’ve done that with Chapman and do that with all my pitchers.
I’m not saying that to troll but that’s just how easy pinpoint is once you get it down. I don’t know why anyone would ever buy a zen when you can get perfect input for free.
Sorry I'm not buying it. I'm a pretty good pinpoint pitcher myself and you will miss because of the PAR. This was just an impression of Chapman because I wanted to show how he painted with a guy with terrible control, but he didn't miss a single pitch. That's not possible, idc what you tell me I'm not buying it.
It really is possible. You may have an occasional miss because of PAR but it still generally goes where you locate the ball.
Most importantly though, zen doesn’t rewrite game code. It would have the same PAR region as us who don’t use it
I understand what you're saying, because I've been telling people the exact same thing. And yet if you would've been in my position and faced this dude, I'm fairly certain you'd leave with the same impression. I hit perfects with 100% accuracy, perfect timing and 0 angle and still throw a ball half the time because that's just how the game is. Everyone will. This guy didn't.
Extremely small sample size to call someone a cheater imo. That’s 11 pitches.
That’s why I’m saying I could do the same. I could hit 11 perfect inputs in a row with Chapman easy on pinpoint (as I’m sure you could too)
No, you see 11 pitches because that's what I chose to share. The sample size was 3 full innings with no misses and nothing but corners.
Probably with other pitchers who have better control but it doesn’t matter anyway
Zens cannot change the code for MLB the Show. It can only provide perfect input which you yourself already said is subject to PAR when you get 100% accuracy, 0 timing, and 0 degrees.
Well neither one of us is going to prove this was or was not going on so the debate is kind of pointless. I play good players often who can pitch very well. I never had the same feeling I had just now. Let's just leave it at that.
I’m sorry but I kinda need this debate to go on so I can transition into how pinpoint is way too easy and it needs to be patched to make it more difficult to get perfect inputs lol
That's fine and all, but don't discredit my experiences just because you have an underlying agenda. You didn't play this game, I did.
That was a joke. I don’t have an underlying agenda. You’re too hot right now after a loss if you didn’t see that. Been there myself but you have to relax.
No I'm sorry if that came out wrong, I'm actually not that upset. I wasn't that deep in a run I just felt cheated and I'm fine and clam, truthfully. I just wanted to say that despite you having an opinion on how it is too easy, doesn't automatically mean that no one uses this stuff.
That’s true. It’s definitely out there. Just hard to tell in a 3 inning game as I’m sure I’ve had a few pitch charts look like that if I were able to go back and look through all the BR and event games I’ve played.
Yes and I completely agree with that and I have never felt like someone used this before, and I have been dotted up just like everyone else. This game was different though, I didn't come here to cry foul just because some random person dotted my life away. That happens and it's part of the game and I don't really care, I can still hit those pitches. Even now I still had 5 hits against this dude. But still, this game was different. I can't explain it in any other way than I have so far.
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I think the zens need to be stopped regardless. Paired up against a dude that could hit everything. Any pitch I threw was going to be a perfect, perfect. I hope I am not the only casual that gets annoyed by this because it just makes the game less enjoyable.
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I’ve done that with Chapman and do that with all my pitchers.
I’m not saying that to troll but that’s just how easy pinpoint is once you get it down. I don’t know why anyone would ever buy a zen when you can get perfect input for free.
Sorry I'm not buying it. I'm a pretty good pinpoint pitcher myself and you will miss because of the PAR. This was just an impression of Chapman because I wanted to show how he painted with a guy with terrible control, but he didn't miss a single pitch. That's not possible, idc what you tell me I'm not buying it.
It really is possible. You may have an occasional miss because of PAR but it still generally goes where you locate the ball.
Most importantly though, zen doesn’t rewrite game code. It would have the same PAR region as us who don’t use it
I understand what you're saying, because I've been telling people the exact same thing. And yet if you would've been in my position and faced this dude, I'm fairly certain you'd leave with the same impression. I hit perfects with 100% accuracy, perfect timing and 0 angle and still throw a ball half the time because that's just how the game is. Everyone will. This guy didn't.
Extremely small sample size to call someone a cheater imo. That’s 11 pitches.
That’s why I’m saying I could do the same. I could hit 11 perfect inputs in a row with Chapman easy on pinpoint (as I’m sure you could too)
No, you see 11 pitches because that's what I chose to share. The sample size was 3 full innings with no misses and nothing but corners.
Probably with other pitchers who have better control but it doesn’t matter anyway
Zens cannot change the code for MLB the Show. It can only provide perfect input which you yourself already said is subject to PAR when you get 100% accuracy, 0 timing, and 0 degrees.
Like I said before, how do we know zen doesn't overwrite or eliminate the PAR coding? Recoil is coded into shooters and the zen eliminates that coding.
I agree Chapman could throw a few pitches in the corner but his PAR is huge. Odds of it constantly hitting the line or corner is pretty slim even on perfect input. Maybe Nash could find a really poor control player, try to throw a bunch of pitches on the line or corner and screen shot the results.
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@d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
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@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
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@nash_524_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first opponent using a zen:
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I’ve done that with Chapman and do that with all my pitchers.
I’m not saying that to troll but that’s just how easy pinpoint is once you get it down. I don’t know why anyone would ever buy a zen when you can get perfect input for free.
Sorry I'm not buying it. I'm a pretty good pinpoint pitcher myself and you will miss because of the PAR. This was just an impression of Chapman because I wanted to show how he painted with a guy with terrible control, but he didn't miss a single pitch. That's not possible, idc what you tell me I'm not buying it.
It really is possible. You may have an occasional miss because of PAR but it still generally goes where you locate the ball.
Most importantly though, zen doesn’t rewrite game code. It would have the same PAR region as us who don’t use it
I understand what you're saying, because I've been telling people the exact same thing. And yet if you would've been in my position and faced this dude, I'm fairly certain you'd leave with the same impression. I hit perfects with 100% accuracy, perfect timing and 0 angle and still throw a ball half the time because that's just how the game is. Everyone will. This guy didn't.
Extremely small sample size to call someone a cheater imo. That’s 11 pitches.
That’s why I’m saying I could do the same. I could hit 11 perfect inputs in a row with Chapman easy on pinpoint (as I’m sure you could too)
No, you see 11 pitches because that's what I chose to share. The sample size was 3 full innings with no misses and nothing but corners.
Probably with other pitchers who have better control but it doesn’t matter anyway
Zens cannot change the code for MLB the Show. It can only provide perfect input which you yourself already said is subject to PAR when you get 100% accuracy, 0 timing, and 0 degrees.
Like I said before, how do we know zen doesn't overwrite or eliminate the PAR coding? Recoil is coded into shooters and the zen eliminates that coding.
I agree Chapman could throw a few pitches in the corner but his PAR is huge. Odds of it constantly hitting the line or corner is pretty slim even on perfect input. Maybe Nash could find a really poor control player, try to throw a bunch of pitches on the line or corner and screen shot the results.
AnD ThE ZeN eLimNatES tHaT CoDiNg.
No it doesn’t, no matter how many times you say it. No matter how much you want it to be true, it DOES NOT DO THAT.
I already explained how the recoil in COD doesn’t get eliminated, the zen sends signals to the controller to fight the recoil and keep it straight. Why would they make a script for every gun….. if they can just eliminate the coding? That would be Demise levels of redundancy.
You can clearly see and read the statement where Chapman missed because of PAR….it’s still there, Perfect pitching isn’t any better with a zen, it’s literally exactly the same and you can see from the feedback. If ZENS override the coding why the F*** did he miss? The guy who made it does that on purpose to [censored] off his customers?
So seriously which is it? Guys are cheating but every now and then turn it off so you have to keep wondering if they’re cheating even thought there is no way to get banned?
The Zen dev trolls his customers?
Or sometimes PP pitching is just a little better than other times, the same way hitting doesnt always get rewarded but sometimes you put up 8 runs in a inning and everything drops for doubles or HRs?
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