PINPOINT pitching ruined this game
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I’m still loving meter pitching after five years of playing.
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Pinpoint isn’t too bad with how forgiving some hitting inputs can be.
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I think the point everyone is missing is what’s the point of actually having pitchers with attributes if all that is overwritten with user input. Guys have bronze level players dotting up just because they can pitch using pin point. And people complain that they left a pitch hanging with perfect input, well that’s possible because in baseball arm fatigue plays a real role and sometimes you just miss. The greatest pitchers in the world still throw balls over the plate. I think the biggest issue is pinpoint is okay but it should only increase the chances the ball lands where u want it to based upon the control stats of the pitcher plus the confidence meter plus the pitch count. If user input completely overrides actual attributes than what’s the purpose of attributes?????? Just like NBA 2k if you can green than it doesn’t matter if the shot is bad or highly congested and consistently doing that over the course of the game isn’t real
@xfoufoufou_psn said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
the stupid wanna be gamer ruined this game with wanting perfect output ... baseball is a game with randomness you can hit the ball with alot of exit velo in real life and get unlucky... pitching you guys cried when good output caught some of the plate.... look what the game has become now .... it isnt even real baseball ... no baseball fan enjoys that every pitch is at the exact location... its the stupid gamers
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So u want hitting to be random but pitching to be absolute???? Whatever. Point is not one pitcher in this world can dot up pitches all game long no matter who they are. Pin point pitching is much easier than pin point hitting. I hit sliders on the nail all the time and I get liners and balls right to players. I ask for a low change up, hit the meter perfect snd still the ball hangs. Well that happens sometimes but don’t make it where when I do throw ball into the dirt and the guy swings and fouls off when his bat isn’t even close to the dirt in the ground. If ur gonna make one absolute u gotta make the other. And yes if I have a 90+ overall team I would expect a higher scoring game than if I had 80+ team just because I expect to have better outcomes because better attributes. Guys have terrible pitchers who pitch like Nolan ryan
@xfoufoufou_psn said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
Im not saying pitches should be meat ball but have some of them miss a little... and have some offspeed pitches have less break sometimes..... Man in real life some can struggle to even find the zone ... Here everybody is Greg Maddux on steroid... draw walks ? thats out of the game almost completely lol... fastball count ? here comes the offspeed on the corner lol
Like i said it all started with people crying that they wanted perfect output which is the complete opposite of baseball... same thing people crying when they hit HR with ball slightly off the PCI....or perfect perfect into Outs
THATS BASEBALL ... some randomness
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Pinpoint is great, but does need tweeked to make it more difficult.
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Pinpoint should require skill. It does not currently. The ranges for good input need to be greatly reduced.
People act like they want skill gap but then want pitching to be as easy as can be. Doesn’t make sense to me.
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@smalltownkid1990 said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
I’m still loving meter pitching after five years of playing.
It's definitely better than last year, I'll give it that. But a lot of pitches on-line still tend to go afloat into the sweet wheel house zone.
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@xfoufoufou_psn said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
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@untchable704_psn said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
It certainly didn’t help it. People that don’t know how to pitch probably like it though.
Dude stop. "People who don't know how to pitch probably like it" lmao. The game forced pitches with good input down the middle in 18, 19 and 20. The guys who liked that were the scrubs who can't hit pitches on the black and have to wait for those cookies down the middle to be somewhat successful. I'm not gonna make assumptions which category your or OP fit, but take a good long look on the mirror and decide for yourself.
Do yourself a favour and just look up his games played then hit block. I rarely block anyone, I think I have 3, if you have 4 games players and 40 posts about gameplay per day you make the cut.
Man Im 40-18 In RS ... i use pinpoint too and its way overpowered.... its not baseball .. nobody in history has that level of command
I actually agree with you. Its unrealistic, but so are high sinkers.
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@nash_524_psn said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
Pinpoint should require skill. It does not currently. The ranges for good input need to be greatly reduced.
People act like they want skill gap but then want pitching to be as easy as can be. Doesn’t make sense to me.
I agree it’s too easy and forgiving
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I'm still convinced these posts downing Pinpoint because of it's HUGE advantage are just folks with an agenda playing the audience trying to drive us to use Pinpoint.
One huge reason that might be is because it adds a couple layers of complexity that, if you do get slightly out of sorts, can justify you serving up that concrete mixer you didn't intend to. Allows the developer yet another option to easily sway a game via code and rigged animation.
Much more difficult to screw up metered. So, much more difficult for gatekeepers to explain or rationalize why a perfectly metered change-up 6 inches below the zone..ends up in the middle of the zone for a tater.
If I were a developer that had a product that has a tendency to not be very realistic in the controller feedback department...I would also promote a much more convoluted process with a couple more steps that can then be argued is the player's fault not the code when that homer flies out of the park.
Just doing the devil's advocate thing.
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@thaghettoblasta said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
It's ruining the game for you, but improving the game of the pitcher. Just because people are using this new function does not mean the game is ruined for all. Just those that waited for garbage pitches to just drop in the zone.. It's a major improvement if you ask me, and I don't use it.
This is how hitting works in real life though as there have only been a few pitchers in history that could always dot the black…and Greg Maddux didn’t throw 99.
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I already knew as soon as they introduced pinpoint pitching this would happen. If they make it so a good player can paint the black litey every pitch. This game will be ruined cause no real life pitcher can do that.
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@xfoufoufou_psn said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
@charterbus_psn said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
@raesone_psn said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
@untchable704_psn said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
It certainly didn’t help it. People that don’t know how to pitch probably like it though.
Dude stop. "People who don't know how to pitch probably like it" lmao. The game forced pitches with good input down the middle in 18, 19 and 20. The guys who liked that were the scrubs who can't hit pitches on the black and have to wait for those cookies down the middle to be somewhat successful. I'm not gonna make assumptions which category your or OP fit, but take a good long look on the mirror and decide for yourself.
Do yourself a favour and just look up his games played then hit block. I rarely block anyone, I think I have 3, if you have 4 games players and 40 posts about gameplay per day you make the cut.
Man Im 40-18 In RS ... i use pinpoint too and its way overpowered.... its not baseball .. nobody in history has that level of command
I was referencing the comment he was talking about not you. It isn’t baseball sure, but nothing in this game is.
There isn’t anything to combat 110+ contact and 110+ power every batter game after game except good pitching. Usually that doesn’t even work. You can be 40-18 all you want but some guys are still hitting over 400 on legend, pitching still isn’t effective enough. Never will be, hitting will always be king in this game.
And honestly I’d get ready because they haven’t even released the meta milestone pitchers yet, Glavine Lee and Oswalt are B+ level pitchers most years of that, Lee is more like a D they’ve made into an A. It’s going to get much more difficult when more and more No Hitters get added.
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@locutusofburg said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
@thaghettoblasta said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
It's ruining the game for you, but improving the game of the pitcher. Just because people are using this new function does not mean the game is ruined for all. Just those that waited for garbage pitches to just drop in the zone.. It's a major improvement if you ask me, and I don't use it.
This is how hitting works in real life though as there have only been a few pitchers in history that could always dot the black…and Greg Maddux didn’t throw 99.
LOL...neither did Smoltz, It's odd how they beefed up some of the legends.
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This thread reminds me of that classic LMFAO ft. lil Jon song.... “ Dots! Dots! ..DotsDots Dots! Everyybodyy!”
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@charterbus_psn said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
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@charterbus_psn said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
@raesone_psn said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
@untchable704_psn said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
It certainly didn’t help it. People that don’t know how to pitch probably like it though.
Dude stop. "People who don't know how to pitch probably like it" lmao. The game forced pitches with good input down the middle in 18, 19 and 20. The guys who liked that were the scrubs who can't hit pitches on the black and have to wait for those cookies down the middle to be somewhat successful. I'm not gonna make assumptions which category your or OP fit, but take a good long look on the mirror and decide for yourself.
Do yourself a favour and just look up his games played then hit block. I rarely block anyone, I think I have 3, if you have 4 games players and 40 posts about gameplay per day you make the cut.
Man Im 40-18 In RS ... i use pinpoint too and its way overpowered.... its not baseball .. nobody in history has that level of command
I was referencing the comment he was talking about not you. It isn’t baseball sure, but nothing in this game is.
There isn’t anything to combat 110+ contact and 110+ power every batter game after game except good pitching. Usually that doesn’t even work. You can be 40-18 all you want but some guys are still hitting over 400 on legend, pitching still isn’t effective enough. Never will be, hitting will always be king in this game.
And honestly I’d get ready because they haven’t even released the meta milestone pitchers yet, Glavine Lee and Oswalt are B+ level pitchers most years of that, Lee is more like a D they’ve made into an A. It’s going to get much more difficult when more and more No Hitters get added.
ive faced trout at least 30 times this year and he never got one hit off me and i dont use pinpoint
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@mickdrenalenswag said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
I already knew as soon as they introduced pinpoint pitching this would happen. If they make it so a good player can paint the black litey every pitch. This game will be ruined cause no real life pitcher can do that.
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I think the pitch speeds are too fast.
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@locutusofburg said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
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@untchable704_psn said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
@raesone_psn said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
@untchable704_psn said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
It certainly didn’t help it. People that don’t know how to pitch probably like it though.
Dude stop. "People who don't know how to pitch probably like it" lmao. The game forced pitches with good input down the middle in 18, 19 and 20. The guys who liked that were the scrubs who can't hit pitches on the black and have to wait for those cookies down the middle to be somewhat successful. I'm not gonna make assumptions which category your or OP fit, but take a good long look on the mirror and decide for yourself.
So to you the opposite of that was to put it in the exact same spot every time with such a simplistic system? Then when your opponent hits it’s just random output? Okay. I just always base my opinion on the fact that gamers nowadays, and after 8 years in sports games especially sports gamers, win at every cost and want to cheese as much as possible so if something new is added to the game and the majority of people like it then it probably isn’t good for the actual game. If a YouTuber found a way to bunt for a base hit every time 100% right now that is all you would see online until it was patched.
And I’m alright at the game. Would be better if I enjoyed it online. In actual games I’m probably 80% win and would be higher if I cared to enough stick around. I pitch with analog by the way and still think it’s too easy compared to the randomness of hitting. But it is what it is. And that’s the game.
If you can hit pitches in every location, it doesn't matter if your opponent can throw accurate pitch after accurate pitch. However, If you can't hit every pitch in every location, then yes you have something to complain about. Case and point I would assume.
So you telling me sinker up and in is real baseball ? telling me being patient at the plate ... looking for a pitch you can drive , forcing pitchers in fastball counts ...man this isnt even baseball its all about who can put the PCi on the ball at any locations ... why take any pitches then there is no point because anybody can spot a offspeed in a fastball count.... you just a stupid fkin gamer ... not a baseball fan gtfo lol
Sinker up and in has nothing to do with the pinpoint mechanic and everything SDS shoddy programming.
Has everything to do with it as with pinpoint you can just dot up and in broken sinkers
So what? Just crush them. I don't understand why people have so much issues with these sinkers despite it not being realistic.
Because for every player that can consistently hit that pitch there are probably 25 that can’t. Add in that connectivity and frame rate really impacts high velocity inside pitches and quite often those pitches are unhittable.
I want tweaks. Up and in sinkers being the best pitch needs to go. In the dirt curveballs and chamges need to be more effective.
I think pinpoint though is straight cheese to the point of running 4 verticals in madden.
In the dirt curveballs and changeups need to be more effective??? So the other user can't have a good eye?? Lol......okay....
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A lot of meaningless feedback on a good assessment of one of the games faults,merely pointed out oin this thread. Where of course there will be many retractors all with a record of 250 and 0. Pinpoint pitching is just another way for SOME players to use some obvious advantages. Whatever happened to the laws of physics and the statistical realism . Gentlemen ,the game of baseball is not the Twilight Zone intended nor existing for some individuals to rampage untethered . Professor Kwik
