Gausman
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@anoraka_psn said in Gausman:
His spin rates are actually down across the board now, as is velocity so I don't think it's very intuitive to jump to him relying on stick. The location of his pitches is a lot better, so he's throwing fewer balls that are taken.
I think it boils down to his pitch selection and placement. He's playing with Buster Posey behind the dish, so it makes a lot of sense that the pitch calls would be significantly better here in San Fran than throwing to one of Barnhart, Casali, or Stephenson.
Doesn’t explain why he couldn’t succeed in Atlanta which has a track record of turning pitchers around and making them successful. Tyler Flowers was one of the best pitch sequencing catchers and pitch framers in the major leagues and yet he was at best inconsistent.
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He comes from good stock.
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@killerpresence4 said in Gausman:
@anoraka_psn said in Gausman:
His spin rates are actually down across the board now, as is velocity so I don't think it's very intuitive to jump to him relying on stick. The location of his pitches is a lot better, so he's throwing fewer balls that are taken.
I think it boils down to his pitch selection and placement. He's playing with Buster Posey behind the dish, so it makes a lot of sense that the pitch calls would be significantly better here in San Fran than throwing to one of Barnhart, Casali, or Stephenson.
Doesn’t explain why he couldn’t succeed in Atlanta which has a track record of turning pitchers around and making them successful. Tyler Flowers was one of the best pitch sequencing catchers and pitch framers in the major leagues and yet he was at best inconsistent.
He was also a lot younger and hadn't fully developed his stuff yet. It's also worth mentioning that Atlanta didn't have the most analytically-driven FO at the time, especially in terms of pitching development.
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Man I regret not cheating when I pitched.
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@anoraka_psn said in Gausman:
@killerpresence4 said in Gausman:
@anoraka_psn said in Gausman:
His spin rates are actually down across the board now, as is velocity so I don't think it's very intuitive to jump to him relying on stick. The location of his pitches is a lot better, so he's throwing fewer balls that are taken.
I think it boils down to his pitch selection and placement. He's playing with Buster Posey behind the dish, so it makes a lot of sense that the pitch calls would be significantly better here in San Fran than throwing to one of Barnhart, Casali, or Stephenson.
Doesn’t explain why he couldn’t succeed in Atlanta which has a track record of turning pitchers around and making them successful. Tyler Flowers was one of the best pitch sequencing catchers and pitch framers in the major leagues and yet he was at best inconsistent.
He was also a lot younger and hadn't fully developed his stuff yet. It's also worth mentioning that Atlanta didn't have the most analytically-driven FO at the time, especially in terms of pitching development.
Uuuuhhh this isn’t correct, that FO is the same front office that they have now. Alex Anthopolous is still their GM and it’s the same organization that has turn around the careers of several pitchers including Tyler Matzek whom was out of baseball 3 years ago. So not sure where you got that info from but it’s not correct. And as far as analytics are concerned they employ more analytical research to their pitching then most clubs do. Case and point, Ian Anderson was drafted with an elite sinker. Ian Anderson no longer employs a sinker. Ian Anderson only developed his change up in the last 48 months. His change up is considered to be his best pitch now. Ian Anderson was drafted with an elite level curveball. He only employs that pitch roughly 15 percent of the time and that’s up from last year when he featured that pitch less than 10 percent of the time. So in his development he has scrapped the sinker added one of the best change ups in baseball and only showcased what used to be considered his best pitch a curveball. Yet he still is a major league leader in ground ball rates and rarely gives up homers. While not employing that sinker.
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@anoraka_psn said in Gausman:
@killerpresence4 said in Gausman:
@anoraka_psn said in Gausman:
His spin rates are actually down across the board now, as is velocity so I don't think it's very intuitive to jump to him relying on stick. The location of his pitches is a lot better, so he's throwing fewer balls that are taken.
I think it boils down to his pitch selection and placement. He's playing with Buster Posey behind the dish, so it makes a lot of sense that the pitch calls would be significantly better here in San Fran than throwing to one of Barnhart, Casali, or Stephenson.
Doesn’t explain why he couldn’t succeed in Atlanta which has a track record of turning pitchers around and making them successful. Tyler Flowers was one of the best pitch sequencing catchers and pitch framers in the major leagues and yet he was at best inconsistent.
He was also a lot younger and hadn't fully developed his stuff yet. It's also worth mentioning that Atlanta didn't have the most analytically-driven FO at the time, especially in terms of pitching development.
And Gausman was all of two years younger (28) than he is now (30). He was traded at the deadline in 2018.
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As an O's fan he was my favorite pitcher when here. His inconsistency was maddening though. His problem while in Baltimore was the third strike and walks. He could get someone 0-2 or 1-2 easy and quickly. Then he nibbled and walked guys and then a grooved fastball happened with men on base. Plus I thin Aaron Judge lives in his head. I miss him and hope he continues his success.
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@anoraka_psn said in Gausman:
His spin rates are actually down across the board now, as is velocity so I don't think it's very intuitive to jump to him relying on stick. The location of his pitches is a lot better, so he's throwing fewer balls that are taken.
I think it boils down to his pitch selection and placement. He's playing with Buster Posey behind the dish, so it makes a lot of sense that the pitch calls would be significantly better here in San Fran than throwing to one of Barnhart, Casali, or Stephenson.
He only pitched 22 innings for the Reds. Barnhart calls an excellent game and is a better defensive catcher than Posey.
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Some of these guys are working at Pitching camps using new tech to refine their mechanics and improve spin rate and quality of spin. From what I can tell on Baseball Savant there are a couple of things that stick out.
He's using his splitter more and it's got more movement to it. He's also using his slider more than his change up now. That would make sense as it plays off the 4 seam splitter combo better IMO.
So improved pitch quality and a change in pitch usage seems to be working better. Whether that's from the Giants or something he worked out on his own idk.
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@nanthrax_1_psn said in Gausman:
https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/kevin-gausman-592332?stats=statcast-r-pitching-mlb
Going back too, his whiff rates, chase%, etc have all been near elite. I think it was only a matter of time he'd put it together. Posey helps I bet. I know the Jays wanted him badly because they saw this too. Same reason they believed they could turn around Ray and Matz
They need to get rid of Jansen or at the very least punch him in the glasses
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@hikes83_psn said in Gausman:
@nanthrax_1_psn said in Gausman:
https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/kevin-gausman-592332?stats=statcast-r-pitching-mlb
Going back too, his whiff rates, chase%, etc have all been near elite. I think it was only a matter of time he'd put it together. Posey helps I bet. I know the Jays wanted him badly because they saw this too. Same reason they believed they could turn around Ray and Matz
They need to get rid of Jansen or at the very least punch him in the glasses
Agreed! He's a backup catcher at best at this point.
We just need to hold it down until Gabriel Moreno arrives.. he's hitting .382/.453/.618 in AA as a 21 year old! Nuts... That's Vladdy numbers as a catcher -
The feeling I get when I see Jansen at bat is the same I get when I see a pitcher hit. It’s frustrating
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@nash_524_psn said in Gausman:
@anoraka_psn said in Gausman:
His spin rates are actually down across the board now, as is velocity so I don't think it's very intuitive to jump to him relying on stick. The location of his pitches is a lot better, so he's throwing fewer balls that are taken.
I think it boils down to his pitch selection and placement. He's playing with Buster Posey behind the dish, so it makes a lot of sense that the pitch calls would be significantly better here in San Fran than throwing to one of Barnhart, Casali, or Stephenson.
He only pitched 22 innings for the Reds. Barnhart calls an excellent game and is a better defensive catcher than Posey.
This is very true and it’s not even close
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Lets see..all the new approach and pitching camps and using stick stuff is good,but the real reason might be where.
Baltimore- one of the best hitting parks
Atlanta- a very good hitting park
Cincinatti- also one of the best hitting parks
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@painpa_psn said in Gausman:
Lets see..all the new approach and pitching camps and using stick stuff is good,but the real reason might be where.
Baltimore- one of the best hitting parks
Atlanta- a very good hitting park
Cincinatti- also one of the best hitting parks
San fran- one of the best pitchers parks.Not sure that this has anything to do with Gausmans career resurgence. All of the aforementioned ballparks house teams that have exceptional starting pitchers. There’s far more to it than ballpark. I mean his era adjusted to ballpark is 2.34 which is elite.
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I said might
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Its probably a combination of factors and not just one thing
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@painpa_psn said in Gausman:
Its probably a combination of factors and not just one thing
I’m just a sour SOB who wishes he would have done this like 2 years ago instead of having an overnight epiphany in San Fran which is a team I despise (because their manager is that moron Gabe Kapler)
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@killerpresence4 said in Gausman:
@painpa_psn said in Gausman:
Its probably a combination of factors and not just one thing
I’m just a sour SOB who wishes he would have done this like 2 years ago instead of having an overnight epiphany in San Fran which is a team I despise (because their manager is that moron Gabe Kapler)
Im a phillies fan,so i share that dislike.
