I cannot stress this enough
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@pats1124_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
Seriously 11 errors and a sub 90% fielding percentage at SS means his arm accuracy should be moved to the bottom of the barrel, and hitting stats bumped. I’m a fan of his but the defense is about as far from diamond as it can get.
My son and I often joke about how he is classified as a gold hitter but a diamond defender.
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@bwheel1977_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
@twisted-_-tea-_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
Tatis is now a .296 career hitter vs RHP and at .311 this year but sits at 61 contact vs Right. It’s the only flaw other than vision on his live series card. If they upgrade that to 75-80 he’ll be up there with acuña and trout.
Contact is supposed to be a mixture of ba and so vs a side. I really don't understand how they determine contact as trout has 112 against righties but strikesout 120 times a year vs that side of the mound. They make guys who struck out less than 50 times contact vs that side at 70 or lower. It's weird.
Trout crushes righties.... a better argument would be his ratings verses how performs against lefties.
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@twisted-_-tea-_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
Tatis is now a .296 career hitter vs RHP and at .311 this year but sits at 61 contact vs Right. It’s the only flaw other than vision on his live series card. If they upgrade that to 75-80 he’ll be up there with acuña and trout.
He’s not up there with either of those guys yet. He just doesn’t have enough service time to be considered in that league of player. Remember Tatis’s biggest issue to date is staying healthy. And sorry to point this out, that shoulder isn’t getting any better. The more the season grinds on the more that shoulder is going to bark. My guess is he will see a precipitous drop off in productivity later this summer. But if he is able to stay healthy in the coming years he’ll definitely be in this conversation and I suppose might eclipse both of those guys as far as productivity while playing solid defense at a premium position.
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@sevisonjn_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
@bwheel1977_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
@twisted-_-tea-_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
Tatis is now a .296 career hitter vs RHP and at .311 this year but sits at 61 contact vs Right. It’s the only flaw other than vision on his live series card. If they upgrade that to 75-80 he’ll be up there with acuña and trout.
Contact is supposed to be a mixture of ba and so vs a side. I really don't understand how they determine contact as trout has 112 against righties but strikesout 120 times a year vs that side of the mound. They make guys who struck out less than 50 times contact vs that side at 70 or lower. It's weird.
Trout crushes righties.... a better argument would be his ratings verses how performs against lefties.
He strikes out a ton vs righties... which was my point.
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@washednd_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
Yea I’m thinking being on the cover doesn’t hurt....and the face of baseball. Arenado was never on this level of fame.
Nolan Arenado has been a bonafide superstar for the better part of a decade. Just because he isn’t as flashy and flamboyant as Tatis doesn’t make him any less of a superstar. And you saying he’s the face of baseball is a pretty subjective assertion. There is a camp in Atlanta that would argue that Acuna is more of an all around player than Tatis is. Acuna is an elite offensive player with elite plate discipline and an elite defender which is something that Tatis struggles with at times from a consistency stand point.
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@washednd_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
Yea I’m thinking being on the cover doesn’t hurt....and the face of baseball. Arenado was never on this level of fame.
Btw Arenado was a 93 as late as early last year. I don’t think Tatis has ever eclipsed 90 with his LS card.
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@joeythebigboss said in I cannot stress this enough:
@washednd_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
Yea I’m thinking being on the cover doesn’t hurt....and the face of baseball. Arenado was never on this level of fame.
The Hype train with Tatis makes Arenado look like the cheap off brand they sell at Payless in comparison big picture wise . No disrespect to Arenado I respect his game , but no one outside of die hard baseball fans know who he is .
This is complete BS!!! Everyone who watches even a little baseball knows who Arenado is. Just because he’s not as flamboyant as Tatis is doesn’t make him any less famous!!! Such a homer statement.
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@knoxwurst31_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
@joeythebigboss said in I cannot stress this enough:
@knoxwurst31_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
@joeythebigboss said in I cannot stress this enough:
@washednd_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
Yea I’m thinking being on the cover doesn’t hurt....and the face of baseball. Arenado was never on this level of fame.
The Hype train with Tatis makes Arenado look like the cheap off brand they sell at Payless in comparison big picture wise . No disrespect to Arenado I respect his game , but no one outside of die hard baseball fans know who he is .
No one knows who Arenado is?! LOL
Another guy who can’t read did you miss the hardcore baseball fan part ? . Go down the corner and ask who Tatis is vs Arenado who you think is more likely to get recognized ? . People who don’t follow baseball don’t know who Arenado is
That is possibly the stupidest thing I have ever read. "Only hardcore baseball fans" know Arenado is a joke.
You can’t argue with stupid. That dude is clueless and doesn’t deserve the time it takes to argue with him. I’ve replied to his stupidity and regret giving him a forum to spout that nonsense!!
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@pats1124_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
Seriously 11 errors and a sub 90% fielding percentage at SS means his arm accuracy should be moved to the bottom of the barrel, and hitting stats bumped. I’m a fan of his but the defense is about as far from diamond as it can get.
Yeah it’s not great but some of that has to do with the fact that he gets to some balls that very few shortstops can get to and then blows the play by making horrible throws. But he has elite range. Once he gets a bit more accurate throwing on the run he will take his defense to the next level.
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@killerpresence4 said in I cannot stress this enough:
@pats1124_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
Seriously 11 errors and a sub 90% fielding percentage at SS means his arm accuracy should be moved to the bottom of the barrel, and hitting stats bumped. I’m a fan of his but the defense is about as far from diamond as it can get.
Yeah it’s not great but some of that has to do with the fact that he gets to some balls that very few shortstops can get to and then blows the play by making horrible throws. But he has elite range. Once he gets a bit more accurate throwing on the run he will take his defense to the next level.
Oh I agree. He has awesome defensive talent, just the production hasn’t been there (yet). Besides, plenty of star SS have had defensive reputations that didn’t math reality (looking at you Jeter!), and it certainly didn’t hurt their stardom or ability to be a major positive overall for their teams.
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@bwheel1977_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
@sevisonjn_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
@bwheel1977_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
@twisted-_-tea-_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
Tatis is now a .296 career hitter vs RHP and at .311 this year but sits at 61 contact vs Right. It’s the only flaw other than vision on his live series card. If they upgrade that to 75-80 he’ll be up there with acuña and trout.
Contact is supposed to be a mixture of ba and so vs a side. I really don't understand how they determine contact as trout has 112 against righties but strikesout 120 times a year vs that side of the mound. They make guys who struck out less than 50 times contact vs that side at 70 or lower. It's weird.
Trout crushes righties.... a better argument would be his ratings verses how performs against lefties.
He strikes out a ton vs righties... which was my point.
Mike Trout's BA by year against righties. If he was a contact hitter like Ichiro or Gwynn these numbers would be down years, but he is a middle of the order power hitter. A strikeout is an out just like a pop out. If I am SDS I am not giving strikeouts as much or more weight than batting average. His left handed numbers are inflated a bit based on performance, but if the card in the game had Trout crushing righties and showing poor splits against lefties, SDS would be making the most popular card in the game a platoon player. Not great for the business bottom line.
2021: .333
2020: .295
2019: .303
2018: .318
2017: .313
2016: .313
2015: .295
2014: .291
2013: .327
2012: .346
2011: .203 (Rookie year, 82 PA's against righties) -
@dart_wuffy_mlbts said in I cannot stress this enough:
@joeythebigboss said in I cannot stress this enough:
Baseball as a sport already has a problem with getting new fans and player marketing. and this guy thinks everyone knows who Nolan Arenado who formally played for the Colorado Rockies is
the Lebron of baseball he is not.Formerly not formally.
Imagine thinking you're saying the right thing only to make yourself look like you don't by saying the wrong thing.
If today's baseball fan don't know who Nolan Aarenado is then I feel sorry for them cause he has been the best defensive 3rd baseman in the National League for a few years and his offensive numbers have been pretty good.
He’s won a gold glove every year that he’s played lmao, “I don’t know who he is?”
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@sevisonjn_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
@bwheel1977_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
@sevisonjn_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
@bwheel1977_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
@twisted-_-tea-_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
Tatis is now a .296 career hitter vs RHP and at .311 this year but sits at 61 contact vs Right. It’s the only flaw other than vision on his live series card. If they upgrade that to 75-80 he’ll be up there with acuña and trout.
Contact is supposed to be a mixture of ba and so vs a side. I really don't understand how they determine contact as trout has 112 against righties but strikesout 120 times a year vs that side of the mound. They make guys who struck out less than 50 times contact vs that side at 70 or lower. It's weird.
Trout crushes righties.... a better argument would be his ratings verses how performs against lefties.
He strikes out a ton vs righties... which was my point.
Mike Trout's BA by year against righties. If he was a contact hitter like Ichiro or Gwynn these numbers would be down years, but he is a middle of the order power hitter. A strikeout is an out just like a pop out. If I am SDS I am not giving strikeouts as much or more weight than batting average. His left handed numbers are inflated a bit based on performance, but if the card in the game had Trout crushing righties and showing poor splits against lefties, SDS would be making the most popular card in the game a platoon player. Not great for the business bottom line.
2021: .333
2020: .295
2019: .303
2018: .318
2017: .313
2016: .313
2015: .295
2014: .291
2013: .327
2012: .346
2011: .203 (Rookie year, 82 PA's against righties)and again he struck out over a 100 times vs righties which again was my point when it comes to contact....
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@bwheel1977_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
@sevisonjn_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
@bwheel1977_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
@sevisonjn_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
@bwheel1977_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
@twisted-_-tea-_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
Tatis is now a .296 career hitter vs RHP and at .311 this year but sits at 61 contact vs Right. It’s the only flaw other than vision on his live series card. If they upgrade that to 75-80 he’ll be up there with acuña and trout.
Contact is supposed to be a mixture of ba and so vs a side. I really don't understand how they determine contact as trout has 112 against righties but strikesout 120 times a year vs that side of the mound. They make guys who struck out less than 50 times contact vs that side at 70 or lower. It's weird.
Trout crushes righties.... a better argument would be his ratings verses how performs against lefties.
He strikes out a ton vs righties... which was my point.
Mike Trout's BA by year against righties. If he was a contact hitter like Ichiro or Gwynn these numbers would be down years, but he is a middle of the order power hitter. A strikeout is an out just like a pop out. If I am SDS I am not giving strikeouts as much or more weight than batting average. His left handed numbers are inflated a bit based on performance, but if the card in the game had Trout crushing righties and showing poor splits against lefties, SDS would be making the most popular card in the game a platoon player. Not great for the business bottom line.
2021: .333
2020: .295
2019: .303
2018: .318
2017: .313
2016: .313
2015: .295
2014: .291
2013: .327
2012: .346
2011: .203 (Rookie year, 82 PA's against righties)and again he struck out over a 100 times vs righties which again was my point when it comes to contact....
I guess I am missing the point here.
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@sevisonjn_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
@bwheel1977_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
@sevisonjn_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
@bwheel1977_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
@sevisonjn_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
@bwheel1977_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
@twisted-_-tea-_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
Tatis is now a .296 career hitter vs RHP and at .311 this year but sits at 61 contact vs Right. It’s the only flaw other than vision on his live series card. If they upgrade that to 75-80 he’ll be up there with acuña and trout.
Contact is supposed to be a mixture of ba and so vs a side. I really don't understand how they determine contact as trout has 112 against righties but strikesout 120 times a year vs that side of the mound. They make guys who struck out less than 50 times contact vs that side at 70 or lower. It's weird.
Trout crushes righties.... a better argument would be his ratings verses how performs against lefties.
He strikes out a ton vs righties... which was my point.
Mike Trout's BA by year against righties. If he was a contact hitter like Ichiro or Gwynn these numbers would be down years, but he is a middle of the order power hitter. A strikeout is an out just like a pop out. If I am SDS I am not giving strikeouts as much or more weight than batting average. His left handed numbers are inflated a bit based on performance, but if the card in the game had Trout crushing righties and showing poor splits against lefties, SDS would be making the most popular card in the game a platoon player. Not great for the business bottom line.
2021: .333
2020: .295
2019: .303
2018: .318
2017: .313
2016: .313
2015: .295
2014: .291
2013: .327
2012: .346
2011: .203 (Rookie year, 82 PA's against righties)and again he struck out over a 100 times vs righties which again was my point when it comes to contact....
I guess I am missing the point here.
I am saying his pci shouldn't be bigger than someone who struck out less than 30 times vs righties. Swing and miss should be a bigger deal.
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@twisted-_-tea-_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
Tatis is now a .296 career hitter vs RHP and at .311 this year but sits at 61 contact vs Right. It’s the only flaw other than vision on his live series card. If they upgrade that to 75-80 he’ll be up there with acuña and trout.
Well .... he has a 95 speed but his home to 1st speed is ranked 60th in the MLB. So your lower contact is offset by the boosted speed.
To put it into perspective... Ohtani has an 89 speed but has the 4th fastest home to 1st in baseball. Tyler Wade & Altuve are 6th and 12th and have a 73 speed lmao. Xander Bogaerts 25th ranked and has a 62 rating.............62.
S.I.X.T.Y. T.W.O.
In a videogame sense, I will take that roided up speed rating over the lower contact rating all day.
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ladies and gentleman...we got em 80 contact up to 85 with 100 power at parallel 5 lets gooo
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@bwheel1977_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
@sevisonjn_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
@bwheel1977_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
@sevisonjn_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
@bwheel1977_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
@sevisonjn_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
@bwheel1977_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
@twisted-_-tea-_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
Tatis is now a .296 career hitter vs RHP and at .311 this year but sits at 61 contact vs Right. It’s the only flaw other than vision on his live series card. If they upgrade that to 75-80 he’ll be up there with acuña and trout.
Contact is supposed to be a mixture of ba and so vs a side. I really don't understand how they determine contact as trout has 112 against righties but strikesout 120 times a year vs that side of the mound. They make guys who struck out less than 50 times contact vs that side at 70 or lower. It's weird.
Trout crushes righties.... a better argument would be his ratings verses how performs against lefties.
He strikes out a ton vs righties... which was my point.
Mike Trout's BA by year against righties. If he was a contact hitter like Ichiro or Gwynn these numbers would be down years, but he is a middle of the order power hitter. A strikeout is an out just like a pop out. If I am SDS I am not giving strikeouts as much or more weight than batting average. His left handed numbers are inflated a bit based on performance, but if the card in the game had Trout crushing righties and showing poor splits against lefties, SDS would be making the most popular card in the game a platoon player. Not great for the business bottom line.
2021: .333
2020: .295
2019: .303
2018: .318
2017: .313
2016: .313
2015: .295
2014: .291
2013: .327
2012: .346
2011: .203 (Rookie year, 82 PA's against righties)and again he struck out over a 100 times vs righties which again was my point when it comes to contact....
I guess I am missing the point here.
I am saying his pci shouldn't be bigger than someone who struck out less than 30 times vs righties. Swing and miss should be a bigger deal.
Oh, I thought so. I disagree with that simplistically. A guy can have no pop, bat .276 against righties but swing and miss less than Trout and his vision should be better? Hitting the ball when swinging and successfully hitting the ball when swinging are two very different things.
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@sevisonjn_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
@bwheel1977_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
@sevisonjn_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
@bwheel1977_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
@sevisonjn_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
@bwheel1977_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
@sevisonjn_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
@bwheel1977_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
@twisted-_-tea-_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
Tatis is now a .296 career hitter vs RHP and at .311 this year but sits at 61 contact vs Right. It’s the only flaw other than vision on his live series card. If they upgrade that to 75-80 he’ll be up there with acuña and trout.
Contact is supposed to be a mixture of ba and so vs a side. I really don't understand how they determine contact as trout has 112 against righties but strikesout 120 times a year vs that side of the mound. They make guys who struck out less than 50 times contact vs that side at 70 or lower. It's weird.
Trout crushes righties.... a better argument would be his ratings verses how performs against lefties.
He strikes out a ton vs righties... which was my point.
Mike Trout's BA by year against righties. If he was a contact hitter like Ichiro or Gwynn these numbers would be down years, but he is a middle of the order power hitter. A strikeout is an out just like a pop out. If I am SDS I am not giving strikeouts as much or more weight than batting average. His left handed numbers are inflated a bit based on performance, but if the card in the game had Trout crushing righties and showing poor splits against lefties, SDS would be making the most popular card in the game a platoon player. Not great for the business bottom line.
2021: .333
2020: .295
2019: .303
2018: .318
2017: .313
2016: .313
2015: .295
2014: .291
2013: .327
2012: .346
2011: .203 (Rookie year, 82 PA's against righties)and again he struck out over a 100 times vs righties which again was my point when it comes to contact....
I guess I am missing the point here.
I am saying his pci shouldn't be bigger than someone who struck out less than 30 times vs righties. Swing and miss should be a bigger deal.
Oh, I thought so. I disagree with that simplistically. A guy can have no pop, bat .276 against righties but swing and miss less than Trout and his vision should be better? Hitting the ball when swinging and successfully hitting the ball when swinging are two very different things.
This makes no sense. If a person struck out less than 30 times with similar plate apperances than trout and both hit between .290 and .310 vs righties then yes that said person should have a higher contact and vision rating than trout. It won't happen. Trout strikes out over a 100 times vs that side of the plate. He swing and misses all the time. He does have a good Batting average and hits with pop but again similiar numbers vs that side. Cal jr is a perfect example. Cal hit .315 vs righties with 31 strike outs in 91. He also hit 22 homers vs that side of the plate but look at how they did his card in ta2.
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@bwheel1977_psn said in I cannot stress this enough:
. If a person struck out less than 30 times with similar plate apperances than trout and both hit between .290 and .310 vs righties then yes that said person should have a higher contact and vision rating than trout. It won't happen. Trout strikes out over a 100 times vs that side of the plate. He swing and misses all the time. He does have a good Batting average and hits with pop but again similar numbers vs that side. Cal jr is a perfect example. Cal hit .315 vs righties with 31 strike outs in 91. He also hit 22 homers vs that side of the plate but look at how they did his card in ta2.
I have a bigger issue with them doing Cal dirty on on his 1991 stats TBH. If they made that card 90+ across the board then his rating wouldn't be a 94 and the difference between the mid card version and the final Cal card wouldn't be great enough to sell packs. They still operate a business and that is the same issue with Trout.
