SDS: Can we retire the Roberto Alomar card please?
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Hall of fame hasn’t banned him
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@elboracho247_psn said in SDS: Can we retire the Roberto Alomar card please?:
Stop with the cancel culture BS, He hasn’t been found guilty in a court of law so just relax already. It’s just a card in a game If you’re that concerned don’t use the card.
He was found guilty by the people who provision the cards to MLB The Show to use. I'm not asking him to be struck from the history books, I'm asking the game developers to follow suit with the people who gave him rights to his card to begin with.
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@ny_giants4_life said in SDS: Can we retire the Roberto Alomar card please?:
@easy_duhz_it_ said in SDS: Can we retire the Roberto Alomar card please?:
Imagine needing a safe space because a card was in your inventory. You don't have to use it though and it can be buried by getting better cards...
Seriously no one even knows what he allegedly did so who the hell are we to judge?
well technically MLB investigated and found evidence of wrongdoing. hence the move to move him to the ineligible list.
Well technically, Manfred is a whiny [censored] anyway and he will say anything to avoid confrontation.
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@ny_giants4_life said in SDS: Can we retire the Roberto Alomar card please?:
i mean he's essentially banned by the MLB so why should he be in an MLB game?
essentially != actually
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@easy_duhz_it_ said in SDS: Can we retire the Roberto Alomar card please?:
@sheyworth_xbl said in SDS: Can we retire the Roberto Alomar card please?:
@easy_duhz_it_ said in SDS: Can we retire the Roberto Alomar card please?:
Imagine needing a safe space because a card was in your inventory. You don't have to use it though and it can be buried by getting better cards...
Seriously no one even knows what he allegedly did so who the hell are we to judge?
I didn’t say safe space? We have pride flags available in custom stadiums, Jackie Robinson on the cover and a huge banner in MLB 20 for a month commemorating BLM. I’m asking all movements to be equally supported.
What movement is this supporting? The "lets jump to conclusions and judge someone with absolutely no facts about the situation" movement? Sexual misconduct can mean anything from telling a woman she looks nice today to unwanted penetration. Pretty sure its not the latter because he would be getting arrested right now. He's not being removed from the MLB HOF as per their statement so i think its safe to say that it was nothing violent. Again, who are we to judge? If you dont wanna use the card, dont. There are better 2B in here so buy them up and bury him. You literally dont have to see this card at all unless you intend to go to your inventory every morning to stare at it over a cup of coffee
You're right, since every sexual assault is always prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Come on, they wouldn't do this for an unsolicited d-pic. This was serious [censored]
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@elboracho247_psn said in SDS: Can we retire the Roberto Alomar card please?:
Stop with the cancel culture BS, He hasn’t been found guilty in a court of law so just relax already. It’s just a card in a game If you’re that concerned don’t use the card.
The Jays fired him because there is evidence, this IS NOT cancel culture.
I am supporting the victims.
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@elboracho247_psn said in SDS: Can we retire the Roberto Alomar card please?:
Hall of fame hasn’t banned him
just playing devils advocate here. I dont think he would be banned by the HOF or removed just because I dont think thats a precedent they want to set tbh. once youre in you are in. To my knowledge no player has been removed from the HOF after being admitted.
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@the_bad_seed85 said in SDS: Can we retire the Roberto Alomar card please?:
@easy_duhz_it_ said in SDS: Can we retire the Roberto Alomar card please?:
@sheyworth_xbl said in SDS: Can we retire the Roberto Alomar card please?:
@easy_duhz_it_ said in SDS: Can we retire the Roberto Alomar card please?:
Imagine needing a safe space because a card was in your inventory. You don't have to use it though and it can be buried by getting better cards...
Seriously no one even knows what he allegedly did so who the hell are we to judge?
I didn’t say safe space? We have pride flags available in custom stadiums, Jackie Robinson on the cover and a huge banner in MLB 20 for a month commemorating BLM. I’m asking all movements to be equally supported.
What movement is this supporting? The "lets jump to conclusions and judge someone with absolutely no facts about the situation" movement? Sexual misconduct can mean anything from telling a woman she looks nice today to unwanted penetration. Pretty sure its not the latter because he would be getting arrested right now. He's not being removed from the MLB HOF as per their statement so i think its safe to say that it was nothing violent. Again, who are we to judge? If you dont wanna use the card, dont. There are better 2B in here so buy them up and bury him. You literally dont have to see this card at all unless you intend to go to your inventory every morning to stare at it over a cup of coffee.
You seem to be jumping to a few of your own conclusions there pal.
What conclusions? The one where we literally know nothing about this situation? Thats not jumping to a conclusion...thats stating a fact.
But feel free to tell me everything you know about this. Here i'll start....he was accused of "sexual misconduct" in 2014....thats all i got.
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@savefarris_psn said in SDS: Can we retire the Roberto Alomar card please?:
@ny_giants4_life said in SDS: Can we retire the Roberto Alomar card please?:
i mean he's essentially banned by the MLB so why should he be in an MLB game?
essentially != actually
hes on the MLB ineligible list. wtf do you think that means
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@sheyworth_xbl said in SDS: Can we retire the Roberto Alomar card please?:
@elboracho247_psn said in SDS: Can we retire the Roberto Alomar card please?:
Stop with the cancel culture BS, He hasn’t been found guilty in a court of law so just relax already. It’s just a card in a game If you’re that concerned don’t use the card.
He was found guilty by the people who provision the cards to MLB The Show to use. I'm not asking him to be struck from the history books, I'm asking the game developers to follow suit with the people who gave him rights to his card to begin with.
While I agree something should probably be done about Alomar in the game, why do we act like MLB calls all the shots for this game? They pushed for it to be cross platform and gamepass by extension. MLB gives them the license, but SDS calls all the shots on gameplay, content, and which players they acquire the rights to.
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@the_dragon1912 said in SDS: Can we retire the Roberto Alomar card please?:
@sheyworth_xbl said in SDS: Can we retire the Roberto Alomar card please?:
@elboracho247_psn said in SDS: Can we retire the Roberto Alomar card please?:
Stop with the cancel culture BS, He hasn’t been found guilty in a court of law so just relax already. It’s just a card in a game If you’re that concerned don’t use the card.
He was found guilty by the people who provision the cards to MLB The Show to use. I'm not asking him to be struck from the history books, I'm asking the game developers to follow suit with the people who gave him rights to his card to begin with.
While I agree something should probably be done about Alomar in the game, why do we act like MLB calls all the shots for this game? They pushed for it to be cross platform and gamepass by extension. MLB gives them the license, but SDS calls all the shots on gameplay, content, and which players they acquire the rights to.
MLB and MLBPA essentially holds all the cards. technically if SDS does something that isnt in line with MLB and the MLBPA that could sour the relationship and lose the license for sds. Obviously this is the most extreme case but whoever holds the rights to the players has the power.
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@easy_duhz_it_ said in SDS: Can we retire the Roberto Alomar card please?:
@the_bad_seed85 said in SDS: Can we retire the Roberto Alomar card please?:
@easy_duhz_it_ said in SDS: Can we retire the Roberto Alomar card please?:
@sheyworth_xbl said in SDS: Can we retire the Roberto Alomar card please?:
@easy_duhz_it_ said in SDS: Can we retire the Roberto Alomar card please?:
Imagine needing a safe space because a card was in your inventory. You don't have to use it though and it can be buried by getting better cards...
Seriously no one even knows what he allegedly did so who the hell are we to judge?
I didn’t say safe space? We have pride flags available in custom stadiums, Jackie Robinson on the cover and a huge banner in MLB 20 for a month commemorating BLM. I’m asking all movements to be equally supported.
What movement is this supporting? The "lets jump to conclusions and judge someone with absolutely no facts about the situation" movement? Sexual misconduct can mean anything from telling a woman she looks nice today to unwanted penetration. Pretty sure its not the latter because he would be getting arrested right now. He's not being removed from the MLB HOF as per their statement so i think its safe to say that it was nothing violent. Again, who are we to judge? If you dont wanna use the card, dont. There are better 2B in here so buy them up and bury him. You literally dont have to see this card at all unless you intend to go to your inventory every morning to stare at it over a cup of coffee.
You seem to be jumping to a few of your own conclusions there pal.
What conclusions? The one where we literally know nothing about this situation? Thats not jumping to a conclusion...thats stating a fact.
But feel free to tell me everything you know about this. Here i'll start....he was accused of "sexual misconduct" in 2014....thats all i got.
I don’t need to, you already told us it was none violent when you weren’t jumping to conclusions.
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I just want to quick say to those of you who are fighting along side me in responding to these messages - thank you. Keep it civil, they'll try to get under our skin. But I was not expecting this much defence of my opinion, and it's actually making me a little teary-eyed to see the good in this community. Thank you for your support, hopefully our voices are enough.
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@easy_duhz_it_ said in SDS: Can we retire the Roberto Alomar card please?:
@sheyworth_xbl said in SDS: Can we retire the Roberto Alomar card please?:
@easy_duhz_it_ said in SDS: Can we retire the Roberto Alomar card please?:
Imagine needing a safe space because a card was in your inventory. You don't have to use it though and it can be buried by getting better cards...
Seriously no one even knows what he allegedly did so who the hell are we to judge?
I didn’t say safe space? We have pride flags available in custom stadiums, Jackie Robinson on the cover and a huge banner in MLB 20 for a month commemorating BLM. I’m asking all movements to be equally supported.
What movement is this supporting? The "lets jump to conclusions and judge someone with absolutely no facts about the situation" movement? Sexual misconduct can mean anything from telling a woman she looks nice today to unwanted penetration. Pretty sure its not the latter because he would be getting arrested right now. He's not being removed from the MLB HOF as per their statement so i think its safe to say that it was nothing violent. Again, who are we to judge? If you dont wanna use the card, dont. There are better 2B in here so buy them up and bury him. You literally dont have to see this card at all unless you intend to go to your inventory every morning to stare at it over a cup of coffee.
Matt Gaetz has entered the conversation.
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@ny_giants4_life said in SDS: Can we retire the Roberto Alomar card please?:
@the_dragon1912 said in SDS: Can we retire the Roberto Alomar card please?:
@sheyworth_xbl said in SDS: Can we retire the Roberto Alomar card please?:
@elboracho247_psn said in SDS: Can we retire the Roberto Alomar card please?:
Stop with the cancel culture BS, He hasn’t been found guilty in a court of law so just relax already. It’s just a card in a game If you’re that concerned don’t use the card.
He was found guilty by the people who provision the cards to MLB The Show to use. I'm not asking him to be struck from the history books, I'm asking the game developers to follow suit with the people who gave him rights to his card to begin with.
While I agree something should probably be done about Alomar in the game, why do we act like MLB calls all the shots for this game? They pushed for it to be cross platform and gamepass by extension. MLB gives them the license, but SDS calls all the shots on gameplay, content, and which players they acquire the rights to.
MLB and MLBPA essentially holds all the cards. technically if SDS does something that isnt in line with MLB and the MLBPA that could sour the relationship and lose the license for sds. Obviously this is the most extreme case but whoever holds the rights to the players has the power.
And they won't stop giving them the license unless something extreme happens. You know as well as I do they would have pulled the license by now if they thought someone else would do a better job. I bet you the MLB couldn't care less how this game performs. They were likely just expanding it to Xbox as a marketing attempt for baseball as a whole. There wasn't a single comment about MLB pulling the license in any way until the Xbox crowd joined in. I am not supporting what Alomar allegedly did in the slightest, but this is entirely SDS' call
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@ny_giants4_life said in SDS: Can we retire the Roberto Alomar card please?:
@elboracho247_psn said in SDS: Can we retire the Roberto Alomar card please?:
Stop with the cancel culture BS, He hasn’t been found guilty in a court of law so just relax already. It’s just a card in a game If you’re that concerned don’t use the card.
i mean he's essentially banned by the MLB so why should he be in an MLB game?
That's a fair point, I just happen to disagree with it. I'd love to have Pete Rose in game too, was a monster on field, his gambling addiction shouldn't cancel what he did on field. I feel the same about Alomar.
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Kirby Puckett is in the game and he abused women if i am not mistaken so it's a slippery slope saying remove this card and that card for so and so reasons. I am not saying i agree or disagree with this topic just saying it's a slippery slope.
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@buddyhightower_xbl said in SDS: Can we retire the Roberto Alomar card please?:
@ny_giants4_life said in SDS: Can we retire the Roberto Alomar card please?:
@elboracho247_psn said in SDS: Can we retire the Roberto Alomar card please?:
Stop with the cancel culture BS, He hasn’t been found guilty in a court of law so just relax already. It’s just a card in a game If you’re that concerned don’t use the card.
i mean he's essentially banned by the MLB so why should he be in an MLB game?
That's a fair point, I just happen to disagree with it. I'd love to have Pete Rose in game too, was a monster on field, his gambling addiction shouldn't cancel what he did on field. I feel the same about Alomar.
thankfully rose has rehabbed his image and hopefully in the future he gets into the HOF
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@the_dragon1912 said in SDS: Can we retire the Roberto Alomar card please?:
@ny_giants4_life said in SDS: Can we retire the Roberto Alomar card please?:
@the_dragon1912 said in SDS: Can we retire the Roberto Alomar card please?:
@sheyworth_xbl said in SDS: Can we retire the Roberto Alomar card please?:
@elboracho247_psn said in SDS: Can we retire the Roberto Alomar card please?:
Stop with the cancel culture BS, He hasn’t been found guilty in a court of law so just relax already. It’s just a card in a game If you’re that concerned don’t use the card.
He was found guilty by the people who provision the cards to MLB The Show to use. I'm not asking him to be struck from the history books, I'm asking the game developers to follow suit with the people who gave him rights to his card to begin with.
While I agree something should probably be done about Alomar in the game, why do we act like MLB calls all the shots for this game? They pushed for it to be cross platform and gamepass by extension. MLB gives them the license, but SDS calls all the shots on gameplay, content, and which players they acquire the rights to.
MLB and MLBPA essentially holds all the cards. technically if SDS does something that isnt in line with MLB and the MLBPA that could sour the relationship and lose the license for sds. Obviously this is the most extreme case but whoever holds the rights to the players has the power.
And they won't stop giving them the license unless something extreme happens. You know as well as I do they would have pulled the license by now if they thought someone else would do a better job. I bet you the MLB couldn't care less how this game performs. They were likely just expanding it to Xbox as a marketing attempt for baseball as a whole. There wasn't a single comment about MLB pulling the license in any way until the Xbox crowd joined in. I am not supporting what Alomar allegedly did in the slightest, but this is entirely SDS' call
this is why I used an extreme example to convey a point but the general idea is that MLB can strong arm SDS if they wanted to. If MLB doesnt want a person/player to be associated with the MLB branding they have every right to have SDS remove the player.
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I just read the Jays are removing his number and banner from Skydome so that's a pretty solid statement.
