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Does this stat line win MVP in today's game?

163 games played
200 Hits
49 HRs
OPS of 1.055
152 RBIs
113 Runs scored.

Does this win MVP?

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@Ikasnu said in Let's play a game shall we?:

Does this stat line win MVP in today's game?

163 games played
200 Hits
49 HRs
OPS of 1.055
152 RBIs
113 Runs scored.

Does this win MVP?

How is he playing 163?

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A tie with Toronto.

Maybe if he hadn't have forearm-shivered Fernando Vina.

One of the downfalls of relying on media voting for MVP/Hall of Fame is that if you're prickly with the media, they'll take their revenge on you come award/Hall time.

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Would certainly get higher than 8th, that's for certain

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@jz2016cubs said in Let's play a game shall we?:

@Ikasnu said in Let's play a game shall we?:

Does this stat line win MVP in today's game?

163 games played
200 Hits
49 HRs
OPS of 1.055
152 RBIs
113 Runs scored.

Does this win MVP?

How is he playing 163?

Divisional tie. Rockies played a 163 a few years ago against the Doyers.

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@Ikasnu said in Let's play a game shall we?:

@jz2016cubs said in Let's play a game shall we?:

@Ikasnu said in Let's play a game shall we?:

Does this stat line win MVP in today's game?

163 games played
200 Hits
49 HRs
OPS of 1.055
152 RBIs
113 Runs scored.

Does this win MVP?

How is he playing 163?

Divisional tie. Rockies played a 163 a few years ago against the Doyers.

ohhhh

In that case, I know exactly who this is. lol

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@Ikasnu said in Let's play a game shall we?:

Does this stat line win MVP in today's game?

163 games played
200 Hits
49 HRs
OPS of 1.055
152 RBIs
113 Runs scored.

Does this win MVP?

Who is it? It isn't anyone that I thought.

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@jz2016cubs said in Let's play a game shall we?:

@Ikasnu said in Let's play a game shall we?:

Does this stat line win MVP in today's game?

163 games played
200 Hits
49 HRs
OPS of 1.055
152 RBIs
113 Runs scored.

Does this win MVP?

Who is it? It isn't anyone that I thought.

1998 Albert Belle. Finished 8th in MVP voting. Thats how crazy 1998 baseball was.

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@jz2016cubs said in Let's play a game shall we?:

@Ikasnu said in Let's play a game shall we?:

Does this stat line win MVP in today's game?

163 games played
200 Hits
49 HRs
OPS of 1.055
152 RBIs
113 Runs scored.

Does this win MVP?

Who is it? It isn't anyone that I thought.

Albert Belle in 1998

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Stats like this in today's game would almost certainly garner a 1st or 2nd place finish.

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So to bring this into more context, here are 2019s MVPs.

Trout
134 Games
110 Runs
137 Hits
45 HRs
104 RBI
.291 AVG
1.083 OPS

Bellinger
156 Games
121 Runs
170 Hits
47 HRs
115 RBI
.305 Avg
OPS 1.035

Bellinger loses to Belle, but Trout with a full season would of still won. My god Trout is on another level when you look at the stats, he's good, everyone knows that but just looking at the stat line drives it home even further.

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@Ikasnu said in Let's play a game shall we?:

So to bring this into more context, here are 2019s MVPs.

Trout
134 Games
110 Runs
137 Hits
45 HRs
104 RBI
.291 AVG
1.083 OPS

Bellinger
156 Games
121 Runs
170 Hits
47 HRs
115 RBI
.305 Avg
OPS 1.035

Bellinger loses to Belle, but Trout with a full season would of still won. My god Trout is on another level when you look at the stats, he's good, everyone knows that but just looking at the stat line drives it home even further.

Bellinger was worth 9.1 bWAR vs. Belle's 7.1 bWAR and played a harder position - RF vs. LF. I doubt he loses to Belle....if the vote was still in 2019. In '98 tho...who knows.

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@BlackSoxDown said in Let's play a game shall we?:

@Ikasnu said in Let's play a game shall we?:

So to bring this into more context, here are 2019s MVPs.

Trout
134 Games
110 Runs
137 Hits
45 HRs
104 RBI
.291 AVG
1.083 OPS

Bellinger
156 Games
121 Runs
170 Hits
47 HRs
115 RBI
.305 Avg
OPS 1.035

Bellinger loses to Belle, but Trout with a full season would of still won. My god Trout is on another level when you look at the stats, he's good, everyone knows that but just looking at the stat line drives it home even further.

Bellinger was worth 9.1 bWAR vs. Belle's 7.1 bWAR and played a harder position - RF vs. LF. I doubt he loses to Belle....if the vote was still in 2019. In '98 tho...who knows.

Yeah you have to factor in defence... at least a little bit.

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If Belle hadn’t been such a colossal Richard, he would have done a lot better. You don’t throw a couple baseballs in anger at a Sports Illustrated photographer (which happened in ‘96) and expect not to have the rest of the press corps hold a grudge when they cast their votes. When he hit a fan who had been heckling him about his drinking square in the chest with a ball in ‘91, that was more deserved, but still... you can’t do that either.

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@asocial_grace said in Let's play a game shall we?:

If Belle hadn’t been such a colossal Richard, he would have done a lot better. You don’t throw a couple baseballs in anger at a Sports Illustrated photographer (which happened in ‘96) and expect not to have the rest of the press corps hold a grudge when they cast their votes. When he hit a fan who had been heckling him about his drinking square in the chest with a ball in ‘91, that was more deserved, but still... you can’t do that either.

I wasn't aware of either of those instances lol

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Even worse, he dissed Skip Bertman.

You. Just. Don't. Do. That.

https://www.nytimes.com/1996/06/09/sports/on-baseball-an-old-coach-says-there-s-no-explaining-belle.html

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@SaveFarris said in Let's play a game shall we?:

Even worse, he dissed Skip Bertman.

You. Just. Don't. Do. That.

https://www.nytimes.com/1996/06/09/sports/on-baseball-an-old-coach-says-there-s-no-explaining-belle.html

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