Am I the only one who refuses to let opponents take an extra step?
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@JediOfArgonath said in Am I the only one who refuses to let opponents take an extra step?:
@OreoRockstar said in Am I the only one who refuses to let opponents take an extra step?:
@Dino-might_not said in Am I the only one who refuses to let opponents take an extra step?:
I love when people take the extra step, pickups are ridiculously over-powered. I can't even begin to guess how many guys I've picked off this year, especially from 2B. Nothing jacks up your opponents head space more than a rally-killing pickoff.
Lead away.
2B is a gimme pickoff. But if they haven’t hit steal, it’s near impossible to pick the guy at first when he gets the one step lead. Which makes that game where they try to break you down to letting them do it so frustrating and annoying.
If they get that extra step lead - Keep throwing to first. You will eventually get the animation & get them out. Even if it’s an elite base stealer like Henderson or Cobb.
I think every time someone’s taken two steps on me and I throw over, my pitcher throws it away. Every single time. And I have no clue how to stop it
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@Exotic_Combs said in Am I the only one who refuses to let opponents take an extra step?:
@JediOfArgonath said in Am I the only one who refuses to let opponents take an extra step?:
@OreoRockstar said in Am I the only one who refuses to let opponents take an extra step?:
@Dino-might_not said in Am I the only one who refuses to let opponents take an extra step?:
I love when people take the extra step, pickups are ridiculously over-powered. I can't even begin to guess how many guys I've picked off this year, especially from 2B. Nothing jacks up your opponents head space more than a rally-killing pickoff.
Lead away.
2B is a gimme pickoff. But if they haven’t hit steal, it’s near impossible to pick the guy at first when he gets the one step lead. Which makes that game where they try to break you down to letting them do it so frustrating and annoying.
If they get that extra step lead - Keep throwing to first. You will eventually get the animation & get them out. Even if it’s an elite base stealer like Henderson or Cobb.
I think every time someone’s taken two steps on me and I throw over, my pitcher throws it away. Every single time. And I have no clue how to stop it
For some reason when they take multiple steps it initiates the throw meter which leads to you throwing it away.....they are trying to bait you knowing this will happen....pause, switch to buttons from button accuracy, than when they do it you won’t have that meter and they are dead to right..... than switch back to button accuracy
I do this all the time and get rage quits....
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@EvylShaun said in Am I the only one who refuses to let opponents take an extra step?:
In my opinion pickoffs are broken in this game. Yes, you can pick someone off, but I feel you're more likely to either throw it away, or deplete your energy before you succeed.
If someone takes an extra step I simply step off. Every time. If they continue to take the step, I will wait 5 seconds then select my pitch, let my pitcher come to a complete set and wait 5 seconds again before stepping off. It usually only takes a couple times before my opponent gets the hint.
On occasion, I've had them pause and msg me to "throw the ****ing ball" which usually prompts a back and forth of me telling them as soon as they stop taking the step I'll pitch.
Am I the only one who flat out refuses to let these entitled people have the extra step advantage? I'm undefeated in these little battles (sometimes ashamedly)
I love those “throw the ball” messages. So I’m supposed to let you take the extra step? Get more of an advantage when pickoffs are broken? Screw that buddy. Moving the game along is all up to you. Just quit taking the extra step. Otherwise, I can step off all day.
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@OreoRockstar said in Am I the only one who refuses to let opponents take an extra step?:
@Exotic_Combs said in Am I the only one who refuses to let opponents take an extra step?:
@JediOfArgonath said in Am I the only one who refuses to let opponents take an extra step?:
@OreoRockstar said in Am I the only one who refuses to let opponents take an extra step?:
@Dino-might_not said in Am I the only one who refuses to let opponents take an extra step?:
I love when people take the extra step, pickups are ridiculously over-powered. I can't even begin to guess how many guys I've picked off this year, especially from 2B. Nothing jacks up your opponents head space more than a rally-killing pickoff.
Lead away.
2B is a gimme pickoff. But if they haven’t hit steal, it’s near impossible to pick the guy at first when he gets the one step lead. Which makes that game where they try to break you down to letting them do it so frustrating and annoying.
If they get that extra step lead - Keep throwing to first. You will eventually get the animation & get them out. Even if it’s an elite base stealer like Henderson or Cobb.
I think every time someone’s taken two steps on me and I throw over, my pitcher throws it away. Every single time. And I have no clue how to stop it
For some reason when they take multiple steps it initiates the throw meter which leads to you throwing it away.....they are trying to bait you knowing this will happen....pause, switch to buttons from button accuracy, than when they do it you won’t have that meter and they are dead to right..... than switch back to button accuracy
I do this all the time and get rage quits....
Sometimes the sneaky pickoff with a lefty (holding down the pick off button) will cause them to run to second. If you can get them in the rundown, you’re good.
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How do you pick off? I have no clue. I just step off when they take a lead
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@Freddy_Sez said in Am I the only one who refuses to let opponents take an extra step?:
@abbyspapa said in Am I the only one who refuses to let opponents take an extra step?:
I'll take the extra step until they show me they are paying attention. Gotta get those 3 steals daily missions done somehow!
No problem with this at all, gotta make sure folks are paying attention and watching 1st/2nd (even 3rd). To that end, it doesn't even bother me if my opponent dances back and forth, it's a strategy to keep me focused on the bases instead of the batter; or if folks try and time a late extra step after I come set and right as I'm about to pitch - these are both the game within the game and usually adjustments are made back and forth.
It's the person just taking a lead over and over to see if they can outlast me stepping off and messaging me (as already mentioned) "throw the ****ing ball" that take the fun out of the game. I'm pretty patient so I can usually outlast it and even usually win because I've noticed folks that rely on this aren't the best players, but it makes me want to play another video game or go do something else when that game is over.
It’s amazing all the players who do this. If you go look at their stats after the game, are stealing at less than a 75% clip. Statistically, they’re not even breaking even and doing themselves more harm than good. But they keep doing it, just cause they can, not because they should.
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@EvylShaun said in Am I the only one who refuses to let opponents take an extra step?:
In my opinion pickoffs are broken in this game. Yes, you can pick someone off, but I feel you're more likely to either throw it away, or deplete your energy before you succeed.
If someone takes an extra step I simply step off. Every time. If they continue to take the step, I will wait 5 seconds then select my pitch, let my pitcher come to a complete set and wait 5 seconds again before stepping off. It usually only takes a couple times before my opponent gets the hint.
On occasion, I've had them pause and msg me to "throw the ****ing ball" which usually prompts a back and forth of me telling them as soon as they stop taking the step I'll pitch.
Am I the only one who flat out refuses to let these entitled people have the extra step advantage? I'm undefeated in these little battles (sometimes ashamedly)
Your nicer than me...I put the controller in one hand, finger on L1....I let the cpu pick my pitch....takes longer....and then press L1..then I count to see which opponent figures it out....I had one stop after 2.....clever girl
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Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong when stealing? No matter how perfect of a release i get with L2, the runner is always delayed before he runs. The only way I can steal is if I release L2 a good half second before they start there throwing motion. 9 times out of 10, it's either a really bad jump or I run before he starts the throwing motion.
Is it really just lag from my TV?
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They definitely need to make pickoffs more viable when an extra lead is taken.
That said (OP or anyone else) do you step off every time your opponent takes a step if your defender is not holding him on? This is what irks me - you can easily go into shifts and have your defender hold at the base if you really care so much. Otherwise I’m going to take the step since I can see when you’re going to pickoff and can always get back in time.
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@sbevans142 said in Am I the only one who refuses to let opponents take an extra step?:
How do you pick off? I have no clue. I just step off when they take a lead
L2 + relevant base button
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Nope! I got nothin but time bruh! Ill play the step off throw over game all day. They all give up eventually! Gotta put your foot down or they will do that [censored] all game.
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Strategy people.
I like to take a one step lead at least a few times.
Usually I have no plans to steal, but I want to make sure my opponent sees that I just might, especially with a runner on first with higher speed. If they throw over more than 3 times though, I'll not take that 1st step. However, I may take a step again and then quickly step back to the normal leadoff.
The idea is to get their attention on that runner and hopefully slide step one too many times and throw a meatball or at the very least have to alter their pitching strategy.
I notice this only works for 1st base. If you try to take leadoff at second you can get picked very easily with a one step lead - even with a runner with a high stealing attribute and if you quickly get back to the base. (Note with two outs, the SS or 2nd base arent as close to the bag though so you can safely take that one step lead.)
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@TheWise1-86 said in Am I the only one who refuses to let opponents take an extra step?:
Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong when stealing? No matter how perfect of a release i get with L2, the runner is always delayed before he runs. The only way I can steal is if I release L2 a good half second before they start there throwing motion. 9 times out of 10, it's either a really bad jump or I run before he starts the throwing motion.
Is it really just lag from my TV?
- Don’t get a lead
- Tap L2 immediately when you are wanting to steal. Don’t try to time it up yourself. When you tap L2 the cpu will start the runner for you, You don’t have to worry about it. This is where RNG is your friend. If your runner has a high steal rating & base running rating he’ll get a good jump 8 out of 10 times.
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@ICantHelpFalling said in Am I the only one who refuses to let opponents take an extra step?:
(Note with two outs, the SS or 2nd base arent as close to the bag though so you can safely take that one step lead.)
Unless people are being ridiculous and continue to step off rather than go into shifts and have a fielder hold @ 2nd. It happens more often than you’d think.
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@WDK19 said in Am I the only one who refuses to let opponents take an extra step?:
They definitely need to make pickoffs more viable when an extra lead is taken.
That said (OP or anyone else) do you step off every time your opponent takes a step if your defender is not holding him on? This is what irks me - you can easily go into shifts and have your defender hold at the base if you really care so much. Otherwise I’m going to take the step since I can see when you’re going to pickoff and can always get back in time.
Nope. I don't adjust my defense. I've picked off plenty of runners at 2nd without having to do so, but the rate isn't nearly what it should be on extra step and 2 extra step leads.
The pick off system is unrealistic and needs a fix before I'll pull myself out of position to make up for SDS inadequate coding.
The way I look at it is simple: if the user on offense doesn't take an extra step, the game will only allow the pitcher to step off a maximum of 3 times. If however the runner takes an extra step then there is no limit on pitcher step offs.
If you want to get into a battle of wills and play the extra step/pick off game with me that's fine. You're more than welcome to see if you can outlast me. (Spoiler alert - you can't.) If you want the game to move along, then stop taking the step and I will pitch.
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@EvylShaun said in Am I the only one who refuses to let opponents take an extra step?:
@WDK19 said in Am I the only one who refuses to let opponents take an extra step?:
They definitely need to make pickoffs more viable when an extra lead is taken.
That said (OP or anyone else) do you step off every time your opponent takes a step if your defender is not holding him on? This is what irks me - you can easily go into shifts and have your defender hold at the base if you really care so much. Otherwise I’m going to take the step since I can see when you’re going to pickoff and can always get back in time.
Nope. I don't adjust my defense. I've picked off plenty of runners at 2nd without having to do so, but the rate isn't nearly what it should be on extra step and 2 extra step leads.
The pick off system is unrealistic and needs a fix before I'll pull myself out of position to make up for SDS inadequate coding.
The way I look at it is simple: if the user on offense doesn't take an extra step, the game will only allow the pitcher to step off a maximum of 3 times. If however the runner takes an extra step then there is no limit on pitcher step offs.
If you want to get into a battle of wills and play the extra step/pick off game with me that's fine. You're more than welcome to see if you can outlast me. (Spoiler alert - you can't.) If you want the game to move along, then stop taking the step and I will pitch.
It’s not “putting yourself out of position”. It’s sacrificing positioning for holding the runner close. It happens irl.
I’m also not sure you understand the situation I mean. I’m talking about runner on 2nd two outs, or the trail runner with a guy on third. The default defense doesn’t hold the runner on at second. Therefore when you pick off to second, the game freezes for a sec and I can see the shortstop or 2B runner to the base. So I press RB to go back to the base.
As long as I am paying attention you will never pick me off in this situation. Yet I’ve run into multiple people who refuse to hold me on at second, yet they care enough to continuously attempt pickoffs when it’s impossible to get me out. Are you one of those people? Or are you talking about when your running is positioned to hold by default (runner at 1st, or 2nd <2 out)?
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wait picking off depletes your energy?!
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@WDK19 said in Am I the only one who refuses to let opponents take an extra step?:
@EvylShaun said in Am I the only one who refuses to let opponents take an extra step?:
@WDK19 said in Am I the only one who refuses to let opponents take an extra step?:
They definitely need to make pickoffs more viable when an extra lead is taken.
That said (OP or anyone else) do you step off every time your opponent takes a step if your defender is not holding him on? This is what irks me - you can easily go into shifts and have your defender hold at the base if you really care so much. Otherwise I’m going to take the step since I can see when you’re going to pickoff and can always get back in time.
Nope. I don't adjust my defense. I've picked off plenty of runners at 2nd without having to do so, but the rate isn't nearly what it should be on extra step and 2 extra step leads.
The pick off system is unrealistic and needs a fix before I'll pull myself out of position to make up for SDS inadequate coding.
The way I look at it is simple: if the user on offense doesn't take an extra step, the game will only allow the pitcher to step off a maximum of 3 times. If however the runner takes an extra step then there is no limit on pitcher step offs.
If you want to get into a battle of wills and play the extra step/pick off game with me that's fine. You're more than welcome to see if you can outlast me. (Spoiler alert - you can't.) If you want the game to move along, then stop taking the step and I will pitch.
It’s not “putting yourself out of position”. It’s sacrificing positioning for holding the runner close. It happens irl.
I’m also not sure you understand the situation I mean. I’m talking about runner on 2nd two outs, or the trail runner with a guy on third. The default defense doesn’t hold the runner on at second. Therefore when you pick off to second, the game freezes for a sec and I can see the shortstop or 2B runner to the base. So I press RB to go back to the base.
As long as I am paying attention you will never pick me off in this situation. Yet I’ve run into multiple people who refuse to hold me on at second, yet they care enough to continuously attempt pickoffs when it’s impossible to get me out. Are you one of those people? Or are you talking about when your running is positioned to hold by default (runner at 1st, or 2nd <2 out)?
I am one of those people who doesn't adjust my defense to hold runners on at 2nd, but still continuously steps off if you take an extra step.
The reason is because even if I adjust my middle infielders, the likelyhood of a successful pick off is just about as high as throwing the ball away.
You aren't doing anything wrong per say. IRL if a baseball team is going to allow a big lead or defensive indifference then absolutely I expect a smart player to take it. However this is a video game and the outcomes if I play "smart baseball" by adjusting my defensive positioning don't reward me enough for the sacrifice of playing close to the bag.
The extra step does however reward the baserunner, especially on those close plays at the plate.
If I step off continuously it's my version of playing "smart baseball" within the limits of the game.
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It’s been over 10 minutes since I threw my last pitch. My opponent keeps taking the extra step, I keep stepping off. I don’t wanna throw over, because in my last game I threw the ball away twice on pickoffs. This is ridiculous. The runner has too much of an advantage in the run game and i have to engage in yet another toxic meta-game with an exploiter to just try to keep the game as balanced as possible. SDS I really need some thing to prevent this
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@MarinerMatt01 said in Am I the only one who refuses to let opponents take an extra step?:
It’s been over 10 minutes since I threw my last pitch. My opponent keeps taking the extra step, I keep stepping off. I don’t wanna throw over, because in my last game I threw the ball away twice on pickoffs. This is ridiculous. The runner has too much of an advantage in the run game and i have to engage in yet another toxic meta-game with an exploiter to just try to keep the game as balanced as possible. SDS I really need some thing to prevent this
Don't give in. As I said I've literally won every battle. Eventually people will stop taking the step.
You're right this is something that needs fixing. More punishment for those taking a larger lead (basically, more successful pick offs) seems like the obvious answer.
