Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?
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He built his career on that pitch
SDS proving their cluelessness once again
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Because he has a sinker......a better version in-game of the same exact pitch
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@doomtrain69 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
Because he has a sinker......a better version in-game of the same exact pitch
Nope wrong
2 seam is horizontal and the sinker is a verticalbreak
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@PoopsyMcDoodle said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@doomtrain69 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
Because he has a sinker......a better version in-game of the same exact pitch
Nope wrong
2 seam is horizontal and the sinker is a verticalbreak
IRL they are. I can tell you that because I throw a 2 seamer and it's different from a sinker. But in this game a 2 seamer is a poor mans sinker
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@olivegarden2 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@PoopsyMcDoodle said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@doomtrain69 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
Because he has a sinker......a better version in-game of the same exact pitch
Nope wrong
2 seam is horizontal and the sinker is a verticalbreak
IRL they are. I can tell you that because I throw a 2 seamer and it's different from a sinker. But in this game a 2 seamer is a poor mans sinker
Irl underhand pitching leagues dont count.
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@The_Icon148 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@olivegarden2 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@PoopsyMcDoodle said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@doomtrain69 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
Because he has a sinker......a better version in-game of the same exact pitch
Nope wrong
2 seam is horizontal and the sinker is a verticalbreak
IRL they are. I can tell you that because I throw a 2 seamer and it's different from a sinker. But in this game a 2 seamer is a poor mans sinker
Irl underhand pitching leagues dont count.
I play year round competitive baseball, play tourneys and I'm a kid still...
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@olivegarden2 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@The_Icon148 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@olivegarden2 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@PoopsyMcDoodle said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@doomtrain69 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
Because he has a sinker......a better version in-game of the same exact pitch
Nope wrong
2 seam is horizontal and the sinker is a verticalbreak
IRL they are. I can tell you that because I throw a 2 seamer and it's different from a sinker. But in this game a 2 seamer is a poor mans sinker
Irl underhand pitching leagues dont count.
I play year round competitive baseball, play tourneys and I'm a kid still...
Travel tourneys? Like the Tour of Italy?
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@janoosh said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@olivegarden2 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@The_Icon148 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@olivegarden2 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@PoopsyMcDoodle said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@doomtrain69 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
Because he has a sinker......a better version in-game of the same exact pitch
Nope wrong
2 seam is horizontal and the sinker is a verticalbreak
IRL they are. I can tell you that because I throw a 2 seamer and it's different from a sinker. But in this game a 2 seamer is a poor mans sinker
Irl underhand pitching leagues dont count.
I play year round competitive baseball, play tourneys and I'm a kid still...
Travel tourneys? Like the Tour of Italy?
Lol. We just travel to other cities and sometimes in the city
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@PoopsyMcDoodle said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@doomtrain69 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
Because he has a sinker......a better version in-game of the same exact pitch
Nope wrong
2 seam is horizontal and the sinker is a verticalbreak
Dude they are used interchangeably in most real life baseball contexts, you can alter the grip slightly and try to distinguish them but at its root they are both two-seam grips and everyone grips their [censored] slightly differently and throws at different arm angles anyways. Also check Fangraphs or Brooks Baseball, they group them all under "Sinker."
Now in-game, there are only a few degrees of difference in the angle of break, except sinkers are OP. Both have a fair degree of tail and sink. There is no reason to not give him a sinker since otherwise he'd be pretty much undesirable now that sinkers are the meta.
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@olivegarden2 “I throw a 2 seamer” he says lol. I’m willing to take a gamble on your two seamer and a professional baseball players two seamer are completely different. What you throw is a straight line fastball that spins like a two seamer but with no movement.
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@BalsamicArrow88 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@olivegarden2 “I throw a 2 seamer” he says lol. I’m willing to take a gamble on your two seamer and a professional baseball players two seamer are completely different. What you throw is a straight line fastball that spins like a two seamer but with no movement.
Mine does. It moves in towards righties and away from lefties. I may not be a professional but I'm still young. If you don't think I very good then that's your loss. I'm young and throw 60
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I don’t think you finished your sentence. Why doesn’t Maddux have to seem what?
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I believe Maddox actually threw more of a running fastball
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@PoopsyMcDoodle he built his career on a sinker. He would change grips and velocity constantly because his goal was to mix up the plane of movement and the amount of movement on his pitches. It was based around a sinker, but his sinker could essentially be 5 different pitches
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@olivegarden2 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@BalsamicArrow88 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@olivegarden2 “I throw a 2 seamer” he says lol. I’m willing to take a gamble on your two seamer and a professional baseball players two seamer are completely different. What you throw is a straight line fastball that spins like a two seamer but with no movement.
Mine does. It moves in towards righties and away from lefties. I may not be a professional but I'm still young. If you don't think I very good then that's your loss. I'm young and throw 60
Doesnt make sense
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@bmoo44 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@olivegarden2 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@BalsamicArrow88 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@olivegarden2 “I throw a 2 seamer” he says lol. I’m willing to take a gamble on your two seamer and a professional baseball players two seamer are completely different. What you throw is a straight line fastball that spins like a two seamer but with no movement.
Mine does. It moves in towards righties and away from lefties. I may not be a professional but I'm still young. If you don't think I very good then that's your loss. I'm young and throw 60
Doesnt make sense
Why? What part? That is how a 2 seamer is supposed to move and how I throw it
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I’m thankful he has a sinker so his can be effective. It could have gone either way with that or a 2SFB.
Also, here’s Tony Gwynn discussing his pitch repertoire (including a sinking fastball).
http://static.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/gwynn_tony/1369978.html
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@olivegarden2 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@The_Icon148 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@olivegarden2 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@PoopsyMcDoodle said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@doomtrain69 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
Because he has a sinker......a better version in-game of the same exact pitch
Nope wrong
2 seam is horizontal and the sinker is a verticalbreak
IRL they are. I can tell you that because I throw a 2 seamer and it's different from a sinker. But in this game a 2 seamer is a poor mans sinker
Irl underhand pitching leagues dont count.
I play year round competitive baseball, play tourneys and I'm a kid still...
Lucky. I'm old and starting to get pudgy, throw one ball and my shoulder screams at me wondering what the [censored] I'm doing. Should've just had the surgery.
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@BalsamicArrow88 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@olivegarden2 “I throw a 2 seamer” he says lol. I’m willing to take a gamble on your two seamer and a professional baseball players two seamer are completely different. What you throw is a straight line fastball that spins like a two seamer but with no movement.
He’s a kid that loves playing baseball, and most of us probably just wish we loved the game as much as he does at his age, stop being rude.
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Whatever they gave maddux, SDS wont do justice with his movement. Dude had the best movement ive ever seen for a pitcher.