Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?
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@janoosh said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@olivegarden2 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@The_Icon148 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@olivegarden2 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@PoopsyMcDoodle said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@doomtrain69 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
Because he has a sinker......a better version in-game of the same exact pitch
Nope wrong
2 seam is horizontal and the sinker is a verticalbreak
IRL they are. I can tell you that because I throw a 2 seamer and it's different from a sinker. But in this game a 2 seamer is a poor mans sinker
Irl underhand pitching leagues dont count.
I play year round competitive baseball, play tourneys and I'm a kid still...
Travel tourneys? Like the Tour of Italy?
Lol. We just travel to other cities and sometimes in the city
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@PoopsyMcDoodle said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@doomtrain69 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
Because he has a sinker......a better version in-game of the same exact pitch
Nope wrong
2 seam is horizontal and the sinker is a verticalbreak
Dude they are used interchangeably in most real life baseball contexts, you can alter the grip slightly and try to distinguish them but at its root they are both two-seam grips and everyone grips their [censored] slightly differently and throws at different arm angles anyways. Also check Fangraphs or Brooks Baseball, they group them all under "Sinker."
Now in-game, there are only a few degrees of difference in the angle of break, except sinkers are OP. Both have a fair degree of tail and sink. There is no reason to not give him a sinker since otherwise he'd be pretty much undesirable now that sinkers are the meta.
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@olivegarden2 “I throw a 2 seamer” he says lol. I’m willing to take a gamble on your two seamer and a professional baseball players two seamer are completely different. What you throw is a straight line fastball that spins like a two seamer but with no movement.
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@BalsamicArrow88 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@olivegarden2 “I throw a 2 seamer” he says lol. I’m willing to take a gamble on your two seamer and a professional baseball players two seamer are completely different. What you throw is a straight line fastball that spins like a two seamer but with no movement.
Mine does. It moves in towards righties and away from lefties. I may not be a professional but I'm still young. If you don't think I very good then that's your loss. I'm young and throw 60
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I don’t think you finished your sentence. Why doesn’t Maddux have to seem what?
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I believe Maddox actually threw more of a running fastball
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@PoopsyMcDoodle he built his career on a sinker. He would change grips and velocity constantly because his goal was to mix up the plane of movement and the amount of movement on his pitches. It was based around a sinker, but his sinker could essentially be 5 different pitches
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@olivegarden2 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@BalsamicArrow88 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@olivegarden2 “I throw a 2 seamer” he says lol. I’m willing to take a gamble on your two seamer and a professional baseball players two seamer are completely different. What you throw is a straight line fastball that spins like a two seamer but with no movement.
Mine does. It moves in towards righties and away from lefties. I may not be a professional but I'm still young. If you don't think I very good then that's your loss. I'm young and throw 60
Doesnt make sense
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@bmoo44 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@olivegarden2 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@BalsamicArrow88 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@olivegarden2 “I throw a 2 seamer” he says lol. I’m willing to take a gamble on your two seamer and a professional baseball players two seamer are completely different. What you throw is a straight line fastball that spins like a two seamer but with no movement.
Mine does. It moves in towards righties and away from lefties. I may not be a professional but I'm still young. If you don't think I very good then that's your loss. I'm young and throw 60
Doesnt make sense
Why? What part? That is how a 2 seamer is supposed to move and how I throw it
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I’m thankful he has a sinker so his can be effective. It could have gone either way with that or a 2SFB.
Also, here’s Tony Gwynn discussing his pitch repertoire (including a sinking fastball).
http://static.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/gwynn_tony/1369978.html
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@olivegarden2 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@The_Icon148 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@olivegarden2 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@PoopsyMcDoodle said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@doomtrain69 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
Because he has a sinker......a better version in-game of the same exact pitch
Nope wrong
2 seam is horizontal and the sinker is a verticalbreak
IRL they are. I can tell you that because I throw a 2 seamer and it's different from a sinker. But in this game a 2 seamer is a poor mans sinker
Irl underhand pitching leagues dont count.
I play year round competitive baseball, play tourneys and I'm a kid still...
Lucky. I'm old and starting to get pudgy, throw one ball and my shoulder screams at me wondering what the [censored] I'm doing. Should've just had the surgery.
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@BalsamicArrow88 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@olivegarden2 “I throw a 2 seamer” he says lol. I’m willing to take a gamble on your two seamer and a professional baseball players two seamer are completely different. What you throw is a straight line fastball that spins like a two seamer but with no movement.
He’s a kid that loves playing baseball, and most of us probably just wish we loved the game as much as he does at his age, stop being rude.
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Whatever they gave maddux, SDS wont do justice with his movement. Dude had the best movement ive ever seen for a pitcher.
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@pbake12 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@BalsamicArrow88 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@olivegarden2 “I throw a 2 seamer” he says lol. I’m willing to take a gamble on your two seamer and a professional baseball players two seamer are completely different. What you throw is a straight line fastball that spins like a two seamer but with no movement.
He’s a kid that loves playing baseball, and most of us probably just wish we loved the game as much as he does at his age, stop being rude.
Baseball is my life! I watch all the Sox games and play baseball which sometimes interferes with watching them
. I started getting into the show last year and I’ve loved playing it. It’s has been my daily dosage of baseball! -
Lol at theses dudes messing with a young buck. major leaguers aren’t the only ones to have movement on their pitches. I’m an “old man” and I can throw a pitch that moves easy. The problem is mine never topped out over 85 and I wasn’t a PO, I mainly played 3rd and LF.... and trust me, the 1B knew my throws could possible move to the left. Keep working on the game young buck, gets some pitching coach ( or hitting) and hopefully you can get to the show, or at least the college level.
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@PoopsyMcDoodle said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@doomtrain69 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
Because he has a sinker......a better version in-game of the same exact pitch
Nope wrong
2 seam is horizontal and the sinker is a verticalbreak
thank you for explaining the common sense that shouldnt be needed
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@Crimson_Monk said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
Lol at theses dudes messing with a young buck. major leaguers aren’t the only ones to have movement on their pitches. I’m an “old man” and I can throw a pitch that moves easy. The problem is mine never topped out over 85 and I wasn’t a PO, I mainly played 3rd and LF.... and trust me, the 1B knew my throws could possible move to the left. Keep working on the game young buck, gets some pitching coach ( or hitting) and hopefully you can get to the show, or at least the college level.
I’m in middle school and throw 60, I hope my arm doesn’t wear out! I could see myself throwing 90 if I’m careful!
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@olivegarden2 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@bmoo44 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@olivegarden2 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@BalsamicArrow88 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@olivegarden2 “I throw a 2 seamer” he says lol. I’m willing to take a gamble on your two seamer and a professional baseball players two seamer are completely different. What you throw is a straight line fastball that spins like a two seamer but with no movement.
Mine does. It moves in towards righties and away from lefties. I may not be a professional but I'm still young. If you don't think I very good then that's your loss. I'm young and throw 60
Doesnt make sense
Why? What part? That is how a 2 seamer is supposed to move and how I throw it
Save your time kid arguing with people online will steal your happiness. My son is probably close to your age based on you throwing 60 mph. He pitches and is currently working on his 2 seam. You guys just keep locating, changing speeds and you will have a lot of success. Remember dont feed the animals and never argue with the haters.
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@wolfTex77 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@olivegarden2 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@bmoo44 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@olivegarden2 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@BalsamicArrow88 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@olivegarden2 “I throw a 2 seamer” he says lol. I’m willing to take a gamble on your two seamer and a professional baseball players two seamer are completely different. What you throw is a straight line fastball that spins like a two seamer but with no movement.
Mine does. It moves in towards righties and away from lefties. I may not be a professional but I'm still young. If you don't think I very good then that's your loss. I'm young and throw 60
Doesnt make sense
Why? What part? That is how a 2 seamer is supposed to move and how I throw it
Save your time kid arguing with people online will steal your happiness. My son is probably close to your age based on you throwing 60 mph. He pitches and is currently working on his 2 seam. You guys just keep locating, changing speeds and you will have a lot of success. Remember dont feed the animals and never argue with the haters.
Yeah! I developed a cutter to go along with my change up and 2 seamer. I might eventually throw a breaking pitch but not now. None of my pitches go straight and that is what I like!
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@olivegarden2 said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
@Crimson_Monk said in Why Doesn't Maddux Have 2 Seam?:
Lol at theses dudes messing with a young buck. major leaguers aren’t the only ones to have movement on their pitches. I’m an “old man” and I can throw a pitch that moves easy. The problem is mine never topped out over 85 and I wasn’t a PO, I mainly played 3rd and LF.... and trust me, the 1B knew my throws could possible move to the left. Keep working on the game young buck, gets some pitching coach ( or hitting) and hopefully you can get to the show, or at least the college level.
I’m in middle school and throw 60, I hope my arm doesn’t wear out! I could see myself throwing 90 if I’m careful!
Did you see any LLWS action?
