Debate

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Who do you think are better overall players in this game? Someone in top 100 who plays online H2H? Or someone in top 100 of diamond dynasty?

I would say someone in top 100 of head to head as they are playing with real mlb rosters which have obviously players who aren’t great in the lineup as opposed to diamond dynasty stacked fantasy teams

I’m ranked 93 or so and play with the Rangers and Marlins in online H2H

Who is a typical 9 hitter in a diamond dynasty squad? An overpowered Jeff Kent from his 2000 MVP season?

Was just curious of your opinion?

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Br 12-0 are the best! Just joking haha

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Who are ur typical 8 hitters in diamond dynasty I should ask? As the DD fanboys will be quick to point out pitchers have to hit, yet neglect 6th hitter is babe Ruth, 7th hitter Stan Musial, 8th hitter Ted Williams lol

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The #1 ranked player in online rated has an OPS of 1.019. The #1 ranked player in DD has an OPS of 1.383.

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@IIJACKINTHBOXII said in Debate:

The #1 ranked player in online rated has an OPS of 1.019. The #1 ranked player in DD has an OPS of 1.383.

I see but what is the lowest ranked player in the DD lineup? All are over 90 I assume with multiple 99’s

Also factor in the huge pitching advantage in DD and the fact most people pitch 99 overall starters in relief and it’s a fair debate imo

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To me they both have their argument but I would say DD because even tho your lineup is stacked you are also consistently facing top pitching as well.

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@HeadCoach11787 said in Debate:

@IIJACKINTHBOXII said in Debate:

The #1 ranked player in online rated has an OPS of 1.019. The #1 ranked player in DD has an OPS of 1.383.

I see but what is the lowest ranked player in the DD lineup? All are over 90 I assume with multiple 99’s

Also factor in the huge pitching advantage in DD and the fact most people pitch 99 overall starters in relief and it’s a fair debate imo

Sure, but you can also say people in online H2H are facing weaker pitching and not 99 Kluber all the time, therefore it is easier to hit there.

You can't only use the "Well they use legends in DD" argument without also acknowledging the easier parts of online h2h.

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True I’m just curious as a top player who plays with Texas and Miami online and dosent like DD bc I like playing with real rosters and teams and realistic as possible, how I would do against top DD players

I’m already facing the yanks, doyers, astros in most of my games with Texas and Miami and I’m 41-3 my last 44

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@HeadCoach11787 said in Debate:

True I’m just curious as a top player who plays with Texas and Miami online and dosent like DD bc I like playing with real rosters and teams and realistic as possible, how I would do against top DD players

I’m already facing the yanks, doyers, astros in most of my games with Texas and Miami and I’m 41-3 my last 44

Trust me, you'd be smoked. Nothing against you or online H2H, but the elite of the elite in DD are basically the best players in the entire game. Some of those tops players have done series where they only use bronze hitters and they still make WS, so you cannot just claim that they are using only 99's to do well.

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I got 55 overall Stephen Tarpley and 55 Taylor Hearn coming out of bullpen for my respective teams and pitch solid with them

What is a typical pitching rotation in a DD game?

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@HeadCoach11787 said in Debate:

I got 55 overall Stephen Tarpley and 55 Taylor Hearn coming out of bullpen for my respective teams and pitch solid with them

What is a typical pitching rotation in a DD game?

What does that have to do with hitting? If anything that supports the fact that top DD players are better hitters because they have to face the "typical rotation" in a DD game.

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@HeadCoach11787 said in Debate:

I got 55 overall Stephen Tarpley and 55 Taylor Hearn coming out of bullpen for my respective teams and pitch solid with them

What is a typical pitching rotation in a DD game?

That sort of just proves @eatyum right. If you can pitch well with 55ovr players in H2H then the competition must not be that good.

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@HeadCoach11787 said in Debate:

True I’m just curious as a top player who plays with Texas and Miami online and dosent like DD bc I like playing with real rosters and teams and realistic as possible, how I would do against top DD players

I’m already facing the yanks, doyers, astros in most of my games with Texas and Miami and I’m 41-3 my last 44

You not playing on HOF or legend enough. Stop choosing any difficulty. Play on higher difficulties then I'll respect your record more.

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@eatyum said in Debate:

@HeadCoach11787 said in Debate:

I got 55 overall Stephen Tarpley and 55 Taylor Hearn coming out of bullpen for my respective teams and pitch solid with them

What is a typical pitching rotation in a DD game?

What does that have to do with hitting? If anything that supports the fact that top DD players are better hitters because they have to face the "typical rotation" in a DD game.

Would be like a DD player pitching guys ranked in the 50’s-70’s coming out of pen

As I’m playing yanks, doyers, astros with these guys. All overpowered hitters like DD

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@HeadCoach11787 said in Debate:

@eatyum said in Debate:

@HeadCoach11787 said in Debate:

I got 55 overall Stephen Tarpley and 55 Taylor Hearn coming out of bullpen for my respective teams and pitch solid with them

What is a typical pitching rotation in a DD game?

What does that have to do with hitting? If anything that supports the fact that top DD players are better hitters because they have to face the "typical rotation" in a DD game.

Would be like a DD player pitching guys ranked in the 50’s-70’s coming out of pen

As I’m playing yanks, doyers, astros with these guys. All overpowered hitters like DD

Not even close. And as I said before, some of the top 100 players have used BRONZE teams and still made WS, they aren't only using overpowered players. They can win over and over again with some of the worst players in DD

BRONZE cards against "some of the best rotations in the game", since you want to bring up how good pitching is in DD

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There’s no doubt in my mind that the best of the best play DD. It’s way more competitive.

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@John3221 said in Debate:

@HeadCoach11787 said in Debate:

True I’m just curious as a top player who plays with Texas and Miami online and dosent like DD bc I like playing with real rosters and teams and realistic as possible, how I would do against top DD players

I’m already facing the yanks, doyers, astros in most of my games with Texas and Miami and I’m 41-3 my last 44

You not playing on HOF or legend enough. Stop choosing any difficulty. Play on higher difficulties then I'll respect your record more.

I’ll set it off any difficulty and put it on legend. I doubt anyone will score on me as I hit the corners Basically every pitch

Regardless when it’s on any difficulty as I set it so I can find game quicker, it’s human vs human so I don’t see how that should make a difference

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@HeadCoach11787 said in Debate:

@John3221 said in Debate:

@HeadCoach11787 said in Debate:

True I’m just curious as a top player who plays with Texas and Miami online and dosent like DD bc I like playing with real rosters and teams and realistic as possible, how I would do against top DD players

I’m already facing the yanks, doyers, astros in most of my games with Texas and Miami and I’m 41-3 my last 44

You not playing on HOF or legend enough. Stop choosing any difficulty. Play on higher difficulties then I'll respect your record more.

I’ll set it off any difficulty and put it on legend. I doubt anyone will score on me as I hit the corners Basically every pitch

Regardless when it’s on any difficulty as I set it so I can find game quicker, it’s human vs human so I don’t see how that should make a difference

It makes a difference anybody can be good playing on rookie allstar and veteran alot of the time.

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There are currently 97,135 players who have played a game of H2H this year. There are 348,086 players who have played a game of DD this year. That's about 3.6 times as many DDers than H2Hers. Even if talent was equally distributed between both modes (which I doubt is the case) there would be approximately 360 players in DD that are as good or better than the top 100 in H2H. IMO this is inaccurate though because DD is more popular and would attract the best talent due to it's marketability.

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A couple years ago the #1 online rated player played like the 95th ranked DD player in online rated and got mercy ruled by the DD player.
Note: I don’t have any evidence to back up this claim but I remember hearing it on here