Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?

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If he had died in an accidental aircraft crash like Kobe or Payne Stewart, yes. If he was in the second tower on 9/11, yes. If he was saving his neighbors kitten who was stuck in a tree but lost his balance, broke his neck and died, yes.

But when you get drunk and coked out of your mind with Kenny Powers at Shaboom's and decide racing boats is a good idea, killing yourself and committing manslaughter, no way.

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@Nanthrax_1 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:

@Whereismymind808 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:

@Nanthrax_1 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:

@Whereismymind808 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:

@Nanthrax_1 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:

Every month... Someone comes on here and suggests they do a Fernandez card.. never.. going. to happen.

Also, he's not even close to the Marlins goat. Not even top 25. He decided to end his and 2 of his friends lives before he could be called that..

So out of curiosity .. what are your thoughts on the Roy Halladay situation?

Halladay was by himself over water.

Jose was a kid, who got in a fight with his girl and decided to do a bunch a coke and drank, and speed race his boat killing 2 other people..

So 2 grown men can’t make the decision to not get on that boat? Just because Fernandez was driving the boat that killed them all, he’s full to blame for something they all were partaking in that night? Also, that’s complete speculation with the whole “girlfriend fight” being a reason to “do a bunch of coke” & “speed race” .. you speak on a dead man’s situation so easily, kinda odd. It’s as if you were there that night or have inside info.

But hey, hope you’ve been a saint your whole life my man. Such a shame a young rising star made a bad decision that ultimately took his life. So weird how he’s the only person in sports history to have that happen. What a truly HORRIBLE human.

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-marlins/fl-sp-hyde-jose-fernandez-20170316-story.html

Know the details. He would be in jail if he survived for 2 counts of manslaughter. Text messages tell a story of his fight with his gf. These are all facts.. facts we learned well after celebrating him..

Lol may I ask .. do you know anything at all about the sun-sentinel..? Or anything about the writers of the sun-sentinel? Ya know, since we’re talking about “facts” here.

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@Nanos_McGregor said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:

As much as I’d like it, it prolly will never happen. But hey Bret Hart returner to the WWE so anything is possible really.

Don't forget ultimate warrior as well

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@adam_sheffield said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:

@Nanos_McGregor said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:

As much as I’d like it, it prolly will never happen. But hey Bret Hart returner to the WWE so anything is possible really.

Don't forget ultimate warrior as well

Ultimate Warrior was a piece of [censored], Shad Gaspard died a hero

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@Nanthrax_1 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:

@Whereismymind808 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:

@Nanthrax_1 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:

@Whereismymind808 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:

@Nanthrax_1 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:

Every month... Someone comes on here and suggests they do a Fernandez card.. never.. going. to happen.

Also, he's not even close to the Marlins goat. Not even top 25. He decided to end his and 2 of his friends lives before he could be called that..

So out of curiosity .. what are your thoughts on the Roy Halladay situation?

Halladay was by himself over water.

Jose was a kid, who got in a fight with his girl and decided to do a bunch a coke and drank, and speed race his boat killing 2 other people..

So 2 grown men can’t make the decision to not get on that boat? Just because Fernandez was driving the boat that killed them all, he’s full to blame for something they all were partaking in that night? Also, that’s complete speculation with the whole “girlfriend fight” being a reason to “do a bunch of coke” & “speed race” .. you speak on a dead man’s situation so easily, kinda odd. It’s as if you were there that night or have inside info.

But hey, hope you’ve been a saint your whole life my man. Such a shame a young rising star made a bad decision that ultimately took his life. So weird how he’s the only person in sports history to have that happen. What a truly HORRIBLE human.

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-marlins/fl-sp-hyde-jose-fernandez-20170316-story.html

Know the details. He would be in jail if he survived for 2 counts of manslaughter. Text messages tell a story of his fight with his gf. These are all facts.. facts we learned well after celebrating him..

He would actually get a Negligent Homicide
Conviction (if even convicted) and be out in 3-5 years. Mistakes happen dude he had no intent on killing anybody

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@Whereismymind808 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:

@Nanthrax_1 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:

@Whereismymind808 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:

@Nanthrax_1 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:

@Whereismymind808 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:

@Nanthrax_1 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:

Every month... Someone comes on here and suggests they do a Fernandez card.. never.. going. to happen.

Also, he's not even close to the Marlins goat. Not even top 25. He decided to end his and 2 of his friends lives before he could be called that..

So out of curiosity .. what are your thoughts on the Roy Halladay situation?

Halladay was by himself over water.

Jose was a kid, who got in a fight with his girl and decided to do a bunch a coke and drank, and speed race his boat killing 2 other people..

So 2 grown men can’t make the decision to not get on that boat? Just because Fernandez was driving the boat that killed them all, he’s full to blame for something they all were partaking in that night? Also, that’s complete speculation with the whole “girlfriend fight” being a reason to “do a bunch of coke” & “speed race” .. you speak on a dead man’s situation so easily, kinda odd. It’s as if you were there that night or have inside info.

But hey, hope you’ve been a saint your whole life my man. Such a shame a young rising star made a bad decision that ultimately took his life. So weird how he’s the only person in sports history to have that happen. What a truly HORRIBLE human.

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-marlins/fl-sp-hyde-jose-fernandez-20170316-story.html

Know the details. He would be in jail if he survived for 2 counts of manslaughter. Text messages tell a story of his fight with his gf. These are all facts.. facts we learned well after celebrating him..

Lol may I ask .. do you know anything at all about the sun-sentinel..? Or anything about the writers of the sun-sentinel? Ya know, since we’re talking about “facts” here.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article138834953.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2017/03/16/investigation-determines-jose-fernandez-was-driving-boat-when-he-and-two-other-killed/%3FoutputType=amp

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/investigation-into-jose-fernandez-crash-concludes-he-was-driving-boat-intoxicated/

Facts... If you read it, you'd realize it's not exactly a puff piece. It's actual toxicology and autopsy reports. These are the known facts

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@Liljayne300 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:

@Nanthrax_1 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:

@Whereismymind808 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:

@Nanthrax_1 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:

@Whereismymind808 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:

@Nanthrax_1 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:

Every month... Someone comes on here and suggests they do a Fernandez card.. never.. going. to happen.

Also, he's not even close to the Marlins goat. Not even top 25. He decided to end his and 2 of his friends lives before he could be called that..

So out of curiosity .. what are your thoughts on the Roy Halladay situation?

Halladay was by himself over water.

Jose was a kid, who got in a fight with his girl and decided to do a bunch a coke and drank, and speed race his boat killing 2 other people..

So 2 grown men can’t make the decision to not get on that boat? Just because Fernandez was driving the boat that killed them all, he’s full to blame for something they all were partaking in that night? Also, that’s complete speculation with the whole “girlfriend fight” being a reason to “do a bunch of coke” & “speed race” .. you speak on a dead man’s situation so easily, kinda odd. It’s as if you were there that night or have inside info.

But hey, hope you’ve been a saint your whole life my man. Such a shame a young rising star made a bad decision that ultimately took his life. So weird how he’s the only person in sports history to have that happen. What a truly HORRIBLE human.

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-marlins/fl-sp-hyde-jose-fernandez-20170316-story.html

Know the details. He would be in jail if he survived for 2 counts of manslaughter. Text messages tell a story of his fight with his gf. These are all facts.. facts we learned well after celebrating him..

He would actually get a Negligent Homicide
Conviction (if even convicted) and be out in 3-5 years. Mistakes happen dude he had no intent on killing anybody

No he wouldn't.. As in a DUI with the same blood alcohol level, plus the amount of coke in his system, there's a high percentage chance he'd get manslaughter x2.
15+ years. If justice was served. I'm sure it wouldn't be and it would be less. Time behind bars regardless

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Didn’t he kill two people? Maybe get jimmy leyritz in the game too.

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@Whereismymind808 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:

@Nanthrax_1 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:

Every month... Someone comes on here and suggests they do a Fernandez card.. never.. going. to happen.

Also, he's not even close to the Marlins goat. Not even top 25. He decided to end his and 2 of his friends lives before he could be called that..

So out of curiosity .. what are your thoughts on the Roy Halladay situation?

Halladay didn't murder anyone. There's no comparison.

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Only if they give him 0 control to reflect his boat captaincy.

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@Nanthrax_1 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:

Every month... Someone comes on here and suggests they do a Fernandez card.. never.. going. to happen.

Also, he's not even close to the Marlins goat. Not even top 25. He decided to end his and 2 of his friends lives before he could be called that..

I wouldn't say he decided that

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Everyone needs to cool off on jose being the greatest marlin of all time thing. Only people born after year 2000 would ever think that. He was on track for greatness but never really accomplished anything.

I dont care about what he did as a person, tons of people of been awful people off the field, its not my business.

But seriously does no one remember how dominant josh Beckett was during their world series run, or even aj burnett. Way higher ceilings then jose ever had. Even josh johnson leads the marlins in every single pitching category and was dominant for a good stretch. Hell even d train had a better run then jose. Id take anyone of of those guys having beast cards before jose

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@squishiesgirl said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:

@Nanthrax_1 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:

Every month... Someone comes on here and suggests they do a Fernandez card.. never.. going. to happen.

Also, he's not even close to the Marlins goat. Not even top 25. He decided to end his and 2 of his friends lives before he could be called that..

I wouldn't say he decided that

Inadvertently and foolishly he did.. driving a speed boat, drunk and high in a dangerous area is a decision, no?

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@Quinn2161 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:

Everyone needs to cool off on jose being the greatest marlin of all time thing. Only people born after year 2000 would ever think that. He was on track for greatness but never really accomplished anything.

I dont care about what he did as a person, tons of people of been awful people off the field, its not my business.

But seriously does no one remember how dominant josh Beckett was during their world series run, or even aj burnett. Way higher ceilings then jose ever had. Even josh johnson leads the marlins in every single pitching category and was dominant for a good stretch. Hell even d train had a better run then jose. Id take anyone of of those guys having beast cards before jose

Completely agree about the 2nd part.

Just based on skill, ya, Fernandez could have been amazing. I was a fan. He was dominant in his 2 healthy seasons. But he didn't pitch much.

Josh Johnson, Kevin Brown, Josh Beckett, Dontrelle Willis, Anibal Sanchez all did more..

Also, Jose would have been a Dodger most likely the following year.. he was not staying in Miami

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@Nanthrax_1 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:

@Quinn2161 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:

Everyone needs to cool off on jose being the greatest marlin of all time thing. Only people born after year 2000 would ever think that. He was on track for greatness but never really accomplished anything.

I dont care about what he did as a person, tons of people of been awful people off the field, its not my business.

But seriously does no one remember how dominant josh Beckett was during their world series run, or even aj burnett. Way higher ceilings then jose ever had. Even josh johnson leads the marlins in every single pitching category and was dominant for a good stretch. Hell even d train had a better run then jose. Id take anyone of of those guys having beast cards before jose

Completely agree about the 2nd part.

Just based on skill, ya, Fernandez could have been amazing. I was a fan. He was dominant in his 2 healthy seasons. But he didn't pitch much.

Josh Johnson, Kevin Brown, Josh Beckett, Dontrelle Willis, Anibal Sanchez all did more..

Also, Jose would have been a Dodger most likely the following year.. he was not staying in Miami

Totally blanked on kevin brown somehow, his prime card would be really cool. Thank you for bringing him up! Id take any of brown, beckett, willis, burnett, johnson before jose. He couldve been incredible, its sad and too bad we never got to see more.

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Ty Cobb is in the game & he was a racist asshole. Jose Fernandez would be dope. It’s a VIDEO GAME people.

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@XiX_85 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:

Ty Cobb is in the game & he was a racist asshole. Jose Fernandez would be dope. It’s a VIDEO GAME people.

Dumb comment.. what does it being a video game have to do with anything? The fact it's a video game is even more reason to not have someone who would have been in jail if he were alive in the game.

Also, Ty Cobb was no more racist than pretty much anyone else in his time. So many made up stories about Cobb that have been debunked.

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@Nanthrax_1 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:

@Quinn2161 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:

Everyone needs to cool off on jose being the greatest marlin of all time thing. Only people born after year 2000 would ever think that. He was on track for greatness but never really accomplished anything.

I dont care about what he did as a person, tons of people of been awful people off the field, its not my business.

But seriously does no one remember how dominant josh Beckett was during their world series run, or even aj burnett. Way higher ceilings then jose ever had. Even josh johnson leads the marlins in every single pitching category and was dominant for a good stretch. Hell even d train had a better run then jose. Id take anyone of of those guys having beast cards before jose

Completely agree about the 2nd part.

Just based on skill, ya, Fernandez could have been amazing. I was a fan. He was dominant in his 2 healthy seasons. But he didn't pitch much.

Josh Johnson, Kevin Brown, Josh Beckett, Dontrelle Willis, Anibal Sanchez all did more..

Also, Jose would have been a Dodger most likely the following year.. he was not staying in Miami

Honestly I could see the cardinals going to get him truthfully. I’m not biased here, but how things were in place at the time they were primed to get him.

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It would be cool to have his card, it would cause a huge controversy though. He was drunk and killed 2 others as well so people will be offended if he is in the game. I'm still disappointing in that accident and others still can be.

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@Nanthrax_1 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:

@XiX_85 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:

Ty Cobb is in the game & he was a racist asshole. Jose Fernandez would be dope. It’s a VIDEO GAME people.

Dumb comment.. what does it being a video game have to do with anything? The fact it's a video game is even more reason to not have someone who would have been in jail if he were alive in the game.

Also, Ty Cobb was no more racist than pretty much anyone else in his time. So many made up stories about Cobb that have been debunked.

" no more racist" is still too racist. Whether or not people were racist back in his time doesn't change the fact that he was a racist POS