Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?
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Man, he was such a beast in MLB 16. It’d be cool to have him as a top starting pitcher again. . .
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@Whereismymind808 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:
Every month... Someone comes on here and suggests they do a Fernandez card.. never.. going. to happen.
Also, he's not even close to the Marlins goat. Not even top 25. He decided to end his and 2 of his friends lives before he could be called that..
So out of curiosity .. what are your thoughts on the Roy Halladay situation?
Halladay was by himself over water.
Jose was a kid, who got in a fight with his girl and decided to do a bunch a coke and drank, and speed race his boat killing 2 other people..
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@Trudgeon said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:
I mean, he was the greatest pitcher in Marlins history and in track for the hof.
Anyone who says no and keeps bringing up his mistake doesn’t realize the stress he was under or the situation he was in. Yeah he made a mistake, but do you realize the other mlb players doing what he did?
I mean look at doc gooden, darryl Strawberry, and I bet a bunch more dudes was doing what he did. We weren’t in his situation so y’all old heads need to stop putting him down. He was just a kid and he made a mistake.He had 2 healthy seasons!!! Relax!
Many pitchers did more for the Marlins than him.And he made a mistake and killed 2 ppl and himself!! That's more than "a kid making a mistake"
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@Nanthrax_1 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:
@Whereismymind808 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:
Every month... Someone comes on here and suggests they do a Fernandez card.. never.. going. to happen.
Also, he's not even close to the Marlins goat. Not even top 25. He decided to end his and 2 of his friends lives before he could be called that..
So out of curiosity .. what are your thoughts on the Roy Halladay situation?
Halladay was by himself over water.
Jose was a kid, who got in a fight with his girl and decided to do a bunch a coke and drank, and speed race his boat killing 2 other people..
So 2 grown men can’t make the decision to not get on that boat? Just because Fernandez was driving the boat that killed them all, he’s full to blame for something they all were partaking in that night? Also, that’s complete speculation with the whole “girlfriend fight” being a reason to “do a bunch of coke” & “speed race” .. you speak on a dead man’s situation so easily, kinda odd. It’s as if you were there that night or have inside info.
But hey, hope you’ve been a saint your whole life my man. Such a shame a young rising star made a bad decision that ultimately took his life. So weird how he’s the only person in sports history to have that happen. What a truly HORRIBLE human.
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As much as I’d like it, it prolly will never happen. But hey Bret Hart returner to the WWE so anything is possible really.
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@Whereismymind808 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:
@Whereismymind808 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:
Every month... Someone comes on here and suggests they do a Fernandez card.. never.. going. to happen.
Also, he's not even close to the Marlins goat. Not even top 25. He decided to end his and 2 of his friends lives before he could be called that..
So out of curiosity .. what are your thoughts on the Roy Halladay situation?
Halladay was by himself over water.
Jose was a kid, who got in a fight with his girl and decided to do a bunch a coke and drank, and speed race his boat killing 2 other people..
So 2 grown men can’t make the decision to not get on that boat? Just because Fernandez was driving the boat that killed them all, he’s full to blame for something they all were partaking in that night? Also, that’s complete speculation with the whole “girlfriend fight” being a reason to “do a bunch of coke” & “speed race” .. you speak on a dead man’s situation so easily, kinda odd. It’s as if you were there that night or have inside info.
But hey, hope you’ve been a saint your whole life my man. Such a shame a young rising star made a bad decision that ultimately took his life. So weird how he’s the only person in sports history to have that happen. What a truly HORRIBLE human.
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-marlins/fl-sp-hyde-jose-fernandez-20170316-story.html
Know the details. He would be in jail if he survived for 2 counts of manslaughter. Text messages tell a story of his fight with his gf. These are all facts.. facts we learned well after celebrating him..
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If he had died in an accidental aircraft crash like Kobe or Payne Stewart, yes. If he was in the second tower on 9/11, yes. If he was saving his neighbors kitten who was stuck in a tree but lost his balance, broke his neck and died, yes.
But when you get drunk and coked out of your mind with Kenny Powers at Shaboom's and decide racing boats is a good idea, killing yourself and committing manslaughter, no way.
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@Nanthrax_1 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:
@Whereismymind808 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:
@Whereismymind808 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:
Every month... Someone comes on here and suggests they do a Fernandez card.. never.. going. to happen.
Also, he's not even close to the Marlins goat. Not even top 25. He decided to end his and 2 of his friends lives before he could be called that..
So out of curiosity .. what are your thoughts on the Roy Halladay situation?
Halladay was by himself over water.
Jose was a kid, who got in a fight with his girl and decided to do a bunch a coke and drank, and speed race his boat killing 2 other people..
So 2 grown men can’t make the decision to not get on that boat? Just because Fernandez was driving the boat that killed them all, he’s full to blame for something they all were partaking in that night? Also, that’s complete speculation with the whole “girlfriend fight” being a reason to “do a bunch of coke” & “speed race” .. you speak on a dead man’s situation so easily, kinda odd. It’s as if you were there that night or have inside info.
But hey, hope you’ve been a saint your whole life my man. Such a shame a young rising star made a bad decision that ultimately took his life. So weird how he’s the only person in sports history to have that happen. What a truly HORRIBLE human.
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-marlins/fl-sp-hyde-jose-fernandez-20170316-story.html
Know the details. He would be in jail if he survived for 2 counts of manslaughter. Text messages tell a story of his fight with his gf. These are all facts.. facts we learned well after celebrating him..
Lol may I ask .. do you know anything at all about the sun-sentinel..? Or anything about the writers of the sun-sentinel? Ya know, since we’re talking about “facts” here.
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@Nanos_McGregor said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:
As much as I’d like it, it prolly will never happen. But hey Bret Hart returner to the WWE so anything is possible really.
Don't forget ultimate warrior as well
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@adam_sheffield said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:
@Nanos_McGregor said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:
As much as I’d like it, it prolly will never happen. But hey Bret Hart returner to the WWE so anything is possible really.
Don't forget ultimate warrior as well
Ultimate Warrior was a piece of [censored], Shad Gaspard died a hero
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@Nanthrax_1 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:
@Whereismymind808 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:
@Whereismymind808 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:
Every month... Someone comes on here and suggests they do a Fernandez card.. never.. going. to happen.
Also, he's not even close to the Marlins goat. Not even top 25. He decided to end his and 2 of his friends lives before he could be called that..
So out of curiosity .. what are your thoughts on the Roy Halladay situation?
Halladay was by himself over water.
Jose was a kid, who got in a fight with his girl and decided to do a bunch a coke and drank, and speed race his boat killing 2 other people..
So 2 grown men can’t make the decision to not get on that boat? Just because Fernandez was driving the boat that killed them all, he’s full to blame for something they all were partaking in that night? Also, that’s complete speculation with the whole “girlfriend fight” being a reason to “do a bunch of coke” & “speed race” .. you speak on a dead man’s situation so easily, kinda odd. It’s as if you were there that night or have inside info.
But hey, hope you’ve been a saint your whole life my man. Such a shame a young rising star made a bad decision that ultimately took his life. So weird how he’s the only person in sports history to have that happen. What a truly HORRIBLE human.
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-marlins/fl-sp-hyde-jose-fernandez-20170316-story.html
Know the details. He would be in jail if he survived for 2 counts of manslaughter. Text messages tell a story of his fight with his gf. These are all facts.. facts we learned well after celebrating him..
He would actually get a Negligent Homicide
Conviction (if even convicted) and be out in 3-5 years. Mistakes happen dude he had no intent on killing anybody -
@Whereismymind808 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:
@Whereismymind808 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:
@Whereismymind808 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:
Every month... Someone comes on here and suggests they do a Fernandez card.. never.. going. to happen.
Also, he's not even close to the Marlins goat. Not even top 25. He decided to end his and 2 of his friends lives before he could be called that..
So out of curiosity .. what are your thoughts on the Roy Halladay situation?
Halladay was by himself over water.
Jose was a kid, who got in a fight with his girl and decided to do a bunch a coke and drank, and speed race his boat killing 2 other people..
So 2 grown men can’t make the decision to not get on that boat? Just because Fernandez was driving the boat that killed them all, he’s full to blame for something they all were partaking in that night? Also, that’s complete speculation with the whole “girlfriend fight” being a reason to “do a bunch of coke” & “speed race” .. you speak on a dead man’s situation so easily, kinda odd. It’s as if you were there that night or have inside info.
But hey, hope you’ve been a saint your whole life my man. Such a shame a young rising star made a bad decision that ultimately took his life. So weird how he’s the only person in sports history to have that happen. What a truly HORRIBLE human.
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-marlins/fl-sp-hyde-jose-fernandez-20170316-story.html
Know the details. He would be in jail if he survived for 2 counts of manslaughter. Text messages tell a story of his fight with his gf. These are all facts.. facts we learned well after celebrating him..
Lol may I ask .. do you know anything at all about the sun-sentinel..? Or anything about the writers of the sun-sentinel? Ya know, since we’re talking about “facts” here.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article138834953.html
Facts... If you read it, you'd realize it's not exactly a puff piece. It's actual toxicology and autopsy reports. These are the known facts
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@Liljayne300 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:
@Whereismymind808 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:
@Whereismymind808 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:
Every month... Someone comes on here and suggests they do a Fernandez card.. never.. going. to happen.
Also, he's not even close to the Marlins goat. Not even top 25. He decided to end his and 2 of his friends lives before he could be called that..
So out of curiosity .. what are your thoughts on the Roy Halladay situation?
Halladay was by himself over water.
Jose was a kid, who got in a fight with his girl and decided to do a bunch a coke and drank, and speed race his boat killing 2 other people..
So 2 grown men can’t make the decision to not get on that boat? Just because Fernandez was driving the boat that killed them all, he’s full to blame for something they all were partaking in that night? Also, that’s complete speculation with the whole “girlfriend fight” being a reason to “do a bunch of coke” & “speed race” .. you speak on a dead man’s situation so easily, kinda odd. It’s as if you were there that night or have inside info.
But hey, hope you’ve been a saint your whole life my man. Such a shame a young rising star made a bad decision that ultimately took his life. So weird how he’s the only person in sports history to have that happen. What a truly HORRIBLE human.
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-marlins/fl-sp-hyde-jose-fernandez-20170316-story.html
Know the details. He would be in jail if he survived for 2 counts of manslaughter. Text messages tell a story of his fight with his gf. These are all facts.. facts we learned well after celebrating him..
He would actually get a Negligent Homicide
Conviction (if even convicted) and be out in 3-5 years. Mistakes happen dude he had no intent on killing anybodyNo he wouldn't.. As in a DUI with the same blood alcohol level, plus the amount of coke in his system, there's a high percentage chance he'd get manslaughter x2.
15+ years. If justice was served. I'm sure it wouldn't be and it would be less. Time behind bars regardless -
Didn’t he kill two people? Maybe get jimmy leyritz in the game too.
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@Whereismymind808 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:
Every month... Someone comes on here and suggests they do a Fernandez card.. never.. going. to happen.
Also, he's not even close to the Marlins goat. Not even top 25. He decided to end his and 2 of his friends lives before he could be called that..
So out of curiosity .. what are your thoughts on the Roy Halladay situation?
Halladay didn't murder anyone. There's no comparison.
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Only if they give him 0 control to reflect his boat captaincy.
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@Nanthrax_1 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:
Every month... Someone comes on here and suggests they do a Fernandez card.. never.. going. to happen.
Also, he's not even close to the Marlins goat. Not even top 25. He decided to end his and 2 of his friends lives before he could be called that..
I wouldn't say he decided that
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Everyone needs to cool off on jose being the greatest marlin of all time thing. Only people born after year 2000 would ever think that. He was on track for greatness but never really accomplished anything.
I dont care about what he did as a person, tons of people of been awful people off the field, its not my business.
But seriously does no one remember how dominant josh Beckett was during their world series run, or even aj burnett. Way higher ceilings then jose ever had. Even josh johnson leads the marlins in every single pitching category and was dominant for a good stretch. Hell even d train had a better run then jose. Id take anyone of of those guys having beast cards before jose
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@squishiesgirl said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:
Every month... Someone comes on here and suggests they do a Fernandez card.. never.. going. to happen.
Also, he's not even close to the Marlins goat. Not even top 25. He decided to end his and 2 of his friends lives before he could be called that..
I wouldn't say he decided that
Inadvertently and foolishly he did.. driving a speed boat, drunk and high in a dangerous area is a decision, no?
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@Quinn2161 said in Should there be a prime Jose Fernandez?:
Everyone needs to cool off on jose being the greatest marlin of all time thing. Only people born after year 2000 would ever think that. He was on track for greatness but never really accomplished anything.
I dont care about what he did as a person, tons of people of been awful people off the field, its not my business.
But seriously does no one remember how dominant josh Beckett was during their world series run, or even aj burnett. Way higher ceilings then jose ever had. Even josh johnson leads the marlins in every single pitching category and was dominant for a good stretch. Hell even d train had a better run then jose. Id take anyone of of those guys having beast cards before jose
Completely agree about the 2nd part.
Just based on skill, ya, Fernandez could have been amazing. I was a fan. He was dominant in his 2 healthy seasons. But he didn't pitch much.
Josh Johnson, Kevin Brown, Josh Beckett, Dontrelle Willis, Anibal Sanchez all did more..
Also, Jose would have been a Dodger most likely the following year.. he was not staying in Miami
