Online play has become a disaster

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I wish I could post a screenshot although I did email it in to the Show team, but I lost a game last night because of a bad call at first that was even worse than Jim Joyce in the perfect game. My runner's foot had crossed the bag literally 2 full seconds before the ball hit the fielder's glove, yet was called out.

Then, in my next game, I was up 3-0 late when everything froze. I left the game on the screen and checked my internet connection, which was running fast and flawlessly. After about an hour, I turned off the game and sure enough, I received a loss despite perfectly working internet and being well ahead in the game.

I am done with online play and certainly with buying stubs or next year's game until you fix these ridiculous bugs and also crack down on cheaters. Playing online is supposed to be fun, instead it's been ruined by glitches and those who exploit them. Enough is enough.

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Your first point is probably a latency issue

The other, well you quit out in a freezeoff

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What do you mean "I quit out?" I was winning and left my game on for an hour. I didn't "quit" anything, the game froze. The guy who was winning should win the [censored] game. Stop trying to excuse the inexcusable.

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@Nats19Champions said in Online play has become a disaster:

What do you mean "I quit out?" I was winning and left my game on for an hour. I didn't "quit" anything, the game froze. The guy who was winning should win the [censored] game. Stop trying to excuse the inexcusable.

Freezeouts have been around forever in this game. Its pretty common knowledge that whoever closes the game first gets the L

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I've been playing online for 4 years and didn't know that. Either way I left the game on for an hour AND was winning. Absolutely stupid that the losing team would get a victory when the server freezes. That's entirely on MLB The Show for not using common sense.

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@Nats19Champions said in Online play has become a disaster:

What do you mean "I quit out?" I was winning and left my game on for an hour. I didn't "quit" anything, the game froze. The guy who was winning should win the [censored] game. Stop trying to excuse the inexcusable.

Im not excusing anything. You were in a freezeout, you chose to close the game. You lost, that’s it.

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No, I didn't "lose." I was winning handily. And you make it seem like I just turned the game off the moment it froze; I waited a FULL HOUR. Amazing that anyone would defend this garbage.

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  1. Happens when theres lag
  2. You might be the only person who does not know what a freezeoff is
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@Dudeman22_ said in Online play has become a disaster:

  1. Happens when theres lag
  2. You might be the only person who does not know what a freezeoff is

Hilarious that you rationalize two ridiculously inexcusable errors and somehow make it my fault. MLB The Show should not be giving losses to teams that are winning when their server freezes. I also literally have a screen shot of my player being called out while the ball was almost halfway across the diamond. It wasn't a "lag," genius.

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@Nats19Champions said in Online play has become a disaster:

@Dudeman22_ said in Online play has become a disaster:

  1. Happens when theres lag
  2. You might be the only person who does not know what a freezeoff is

Hilarious that you rationalize two ridiculously inexcusable errors and somehow make it my fault. MLB The Show should not be giving losses to teams that are winning when their server freezes. I also literally have a screen shot of my player being called out while the ball was almost halfway across the diamond. It wasn't a "lag," genius.

Alright wiseguy, you’ve got three people here telling you the same thing and you acting like an *** so what so we know right? You must be right but we all know you’re not.

Your first point is clearly latency related. We’ve all had it happen and it’s ridiculous but it’s exactly what it is.

Your second point is widely known that the first person to quit out (or close the game so you don’t get offended) will be given the loss when you’re in a freeout. Its just the way it is. Nobody knows what exactly caused the freezeout in the first place. I’ve only had one all year so I must be lucky

But hey, if you want to belittle everyone trying to help you understand what happened, then you be you. I don’t feel bad for you anymore. Good riddance

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"It's just the way it is" is the stupidest possible way to defend something. The entire point of my post is to try to get this changed. There is no rational reason for winners to be given losses through no fault of their own, yet here you are defending the indefensible.

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Here's how online play could be mostly fixed:

  1. Stop assigning wins and losses in the event of a server freeze.
  2. Fix lagging that is resulting in bad umpire calls and game-changing plays.
  3. Allow players a limited number of chances to leave an online game before a pitch is thrown to prevent mismatches.
  4. Do not allow starting pitchers to be used as relievers or, at the very least, severely limit their stamina.
  5. Disable the "hold R2" feature after the first inning a given pitcher is in the game.
  6. Make bunt defense better to prevent online abuse of bunting.
  7. Limit the number of pauses during a game, not just pause time.
  8. Do not allow friendly quit requests in the last 10 seconds of a player's pause time.
  9. Investigate reports of cheating and ban/strip wins from those who are caught doing so.
  10. Players who received losses as a result of proven cheating should also have those losses removed from their record.
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The reason you got the loss when you quit is because the game was frozen. The server cannot identify when there is a freezeoff or someone turns their game off or gets disconnected. My point is if someone gets disconnected when you're losing 7-2 in the 7th.. you're going to get the win. When the game freezes like that whoever quits first gets the loss because the servers view it as a disconnect which it technically is. Stop acting so hard headed with your opinion and take the wisdom of those who have been around. You've been playing online for 4 years? I've been playing online for about 20 when it was dial up like AOL. Not that it matters

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@StarsWillAlign said in Online play has become a disaster:

The reason you got the loss when you quit is because the game was frozen.

I. Didn't. Quit.

I. Was. Winning.

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I realized youre probably talking about 4 years online in the show. If you've never had a freezeoff you probably don't play too often in those four years though.

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@StarsWillAlign said in Online play has become a disaster:

If you've never had a freezeoff you probably don't play too often in those four years though.

Wrong.

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@Nats19Champions said in Online play has become a disaster:

Here's how online play could be mostly fixed:

  1. Stop assigning wins and losses in the event of a server freeze.
  2. Fix lagging that is resulting in bad umpire calls and game-changing plays.
  3. Allow players a limited number of chances to leave an online game before a pitch is thrown to prevent mismatches.
  4. Do not allow starting pitchers to be used as relievers or, at the very least, severely limit their stamina.
  5. Disable the "hold R2" feature after the first inning a given pitcher is in the game.
  6. Make bunt defense better to prevent online abuse of bunting.
  7. Limit the number of pauses during a game, not just pause time.
  8. Do not allow friendly quit requests in the last 10 seconds of a player's pause time.
  9. Investigate reports of cheating and ban/strip wins from those who are caught doing so.
  10. Players who received losses as a result of proven cheating should also have those losses removed from their record.
  1. They should either fix freeze-offs and prevent them occurring, or find a way to detect the freeze and award the winning team the game if more than 1/2 of the game has been played. So after the start of the 5th in RS and 3rd in BR ideally. Remember users can deliberately freeze the game in certain circumstances if losing and wait it out to get a win. This would prevent that.

  2. Definitely need better synchronisation. This game is a shambles in large part due to connectivity issues.

  3. No. Anyone could leave when faced with a tough opponent or pitcher they don’t like to face. Friendly quit is enough.

  4. Yes. Stamina needs work.

  5. No. I and other players use it to check pitch history and so on. Make it so it doesn’t interfere with the pitcher in any way, sure.

  6. Definitely yes.

  7. It’s whatever really.

  8. Don’t accept them then.

  9. & 10) Above my pay grade. Seems like that should already be a thing though.

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Thanks for the helpful response. I agree with you on 1, 2, 4, 5 (as long as it doesn't interfere with pitcher, no problem), 6, 9 & 10. I don't think 7 is a "whatever" since it's been abused by cheaters. 8 is an issue because people run down the clock to 1 second and then trick people into thinking they're accepting a forfeit instead of a friendly quit. As for 3, the game frequently assigns mismatches so maybe the answer is less of a competition window at each level. That should be easily fixable.

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I'm not trying to argue with you or be a douche but if you didnt truly know that quitting a freeze off gets you the loss or that you didnt know that it happens, why did you stay in the game for a full hour?

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If your opponent is randomly letting the clock run down to 0 you should know what they are trying to do and have the patience to hit circle than hit square after.