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  • RonnieGant1992R Offline
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    @loshbomb said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    It is also surprising that this card would be a BR reward, given that he’s a new legend and there’s a ton of Braves fans on this game. On the flip side, it’s incredible that Chipper is as good as he is and free.

    Makes perfect sense my friend for them. The guys that do these 12-0 runs just draft BR teams over and over until they feel like they have the right draft then when the do get the rewards they immediately sell them or most of the time for the 200k in stubs that the tons of Braves fans will be dying to buy etc. They did same with Chipper last year 99 was a WS Reward and was 500k stubs on market. I just hope the make another Smoltz end game card Cy Young 99 maybe and

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    @wingspan1985 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    It really shocked me too. I'm hoping the card can be prestiged, maybe up to a 97. I was thinking we'd be seeing a 99 Chipper, but now I'm thinking the blood diamond 96 will be his best card. And it is a good card. Just hope we can do the same with Glavine.

    Most HOF players will get an Awards, Prime, or Signature card; especially somebody as liked as Chipper. A "Veteran" card will not be his best. His best version will probably not come out until October though since this was just released.

    Glavine Signature card being lower than these FS cards is absurd.

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    The fact that Kluber (a career 34.6 fWAR pitcher) has a god like 99 card, and Tom Glavine (a career 66.7 fWAR pitcher) gets a 95 overall and it's a SS!! Which I thought was supposed to be pumped up...
    This year's cards a total mess

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    @pbake12 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    @wingspan1985 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    It really shocked me too. I'm hoping the card can be prestiged, maybe up to a 97. I was thinking we'd be seeing a 99 Chipper, but now I'm thinking the blood diamond 96 will be his best card. And it is a good card. Just hope we can do the same with Glavine.

    Most HOF players will get an Awards, Prime, or Signature card; especially somebody as liked as Chipper. A "Veteran" card will not be his best. His best version will probably not come out until October though since this was just released.

    Glavine Signature card being lower than these FS cards is absurd.

    You're likely right, but as you say it will be late in the cycle. Glavine being a 95 makes no sense, if not a 99 at least a 98. I'm just hoping he is part of the prestige program, maybe we can get him up to a 98.

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    @Nanthrax_1 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    The fact that Kluber (a career 34.6 fWAR pitcher) has a god like 99 card, and Tom Glavine (a career 66.7 fWAR pitcher) gets a 95 overall and it's a SS!! Which I thought was supposed to be pumped up...
    This year's cards a total mess

    Awards and Prime cards are pumped up as much as SS cards are, they mentined this in an early stream. A career WAR makes no difference comparing an award card with signature.
    Award - 1 year
    Prime - around 3 years
    Signature - a whole career

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  • Jeviduty_PSNJ Offline
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    All these complaints are being made under the assumption that Glavine doesn't get a 99 later this year. Which he very well can still have.

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    @pbake12 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    @Nanthrax_1 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    The fact that Kluber (a career 34.6 fWAR pitcher) has a god like 99 card, and Tom Glavine (a career 66.7 fWAR pitcher) gets a 95 overall and it's a SS!! Which I thought was supposed to be pumped up...
    This year's cards a total mess

    Awards and Prime cards are pumped up as much as SS cards are, they mentined this in an early stream. A career WAR makes no difference comparing an award card with signature.
    Award - 1 year
    Prime - around 3 years
    Signature - a whole career

    Ok sure. And without going off last year's signatures, since most were pumped up beyond this year, I'll assume they brought SS ratings down judging off Glavine being a 95...

    Glavine was a better pitcher than Newhouser. Plain and simple.. both SS....
    Newhouser is a 98...

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    @Chuck_Dizzle29 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    You can't tell me a Signature Series Tom Glavine card will have the same overall as a John Lester card from last year.

    Two time CY winner, WS MVP, and first ballot HOFer. Far better career and peak numbers than Lester.

    YOU HAVE FS PITCHERS RATED HIGHER THAN TOM GLAVINE... GTFOH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    You figured out a way to make Adam Jones a 96, work your magic SDS and fix this travesty, or remove the HR display 🤷🏼‍♂️

    This is only in reference to your(and everyone else) homerun display request.....if you let the player cross the plate and high five his homies the banner will disappear. It has been patched.

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    @Jeviduty said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    All these complaints are being made under the assumption that Glavine doesn't get a 99 later this year. Which he very well can still have.

    A Signature Series card will be his best. Plus his stats are not as goos as I thought they would be, he was a great pitcher but hard to rate him for a video game. 3.54 career ERA, 3.95 FIP, 8.8 H/9, and 5.3 k/9.

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    @pbake12 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    @Jeviduty said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    All these complaints are being made under the assumption that Glavine doesn't get a 99 later this year. Which he very well can still have.

    A Signature Series card will be his best. Plus his stats are not as goos as I thought they would be, he was a great pitcher but hard to rate him for a video game. 3.54 career ERA, 3.95 FIP, 8.8 H/9, and 5.3 k/9.

    Keep in mind his comp (height of steroid era) which explains his very high fWAR and bWAR

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    @Nanthrax_1 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    @pbake12 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    @Nanthrax_1 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    The fact that Kluber (a career 34.6 fWAR pitcher) has a god like 99 card, and Tom Glavine (a career 66.7 fWAR pitcher) gets a 95 overall and it's a SS!! Which I thought was supposed to be pumped up...
    This year's cards a total mess

    Awards and Prime cards are pumped up as much as SS cards are, they mentined this in an early stream. A career WAR makes no difference comparing an award card with signature.
    Award - 1 year
    Prime - around 3 years
    Signature - a whole career

    Ok sure. And without going off last year's signatures, since most were pumped up beyond this year, I'll assume they brought SS ratings down judging off Glavine being a 95...

    Glavine was a better pitcher than Newhouser. Plain and simple.. both SS....
    Newhouser is a 98...

    Since they are both SS cards; compare their career stats, Newhouser was better in every metric. Glavine pitched more inning and had more wins, every per 9 besides BB/9 favors Newhouser.

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    @pbake12 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    @Nanthrax_1 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    @pbake12 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    @Nanthrax_1 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    The fact that Kluber (a career 34.6 fWAR pitcher) has a god like 99 card, and Tom Glavine (a career 66.7 fWAR pitcher) gets a 95 overall and it's a SS!! Which I thought was supposed to be pumped up...
    This year's cards a total mess

    Awards and Prime cards are pumped up as much as SS cards are, they mentined this in an early stream. A career WAR makes no difference comparing an award card with signature.
    Award - 1 year
    Prime - around 3 years
    Signature - a whole career

    Ok sure. And without going off last year's signatures, since most were pumped up beyond this year, I'll assume they brought SS ratings down judging off Glavine being a 95...

    Glavine was a better pitcher than Newhouser. Plain and simple.. both SS....
    Newhouser is a 98...

    Since they are both SS cards; compare their career stats, Newhouser was better in every metric. Glavine pitched more inning and had more wins, every per 9 besides BB/9 favors Newhouser.

    Newhouser pitched in dead ball era.
    Glavine in the highest scoring era ever

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    @Nanthrax_1 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    @pbake12 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    @Nanthrax_1 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    @pbake12 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    @Nanthrax_1 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    The fact that Kluber (a career 34.6 fWAR pitcher) has a god like 99 card, and Tom Glavine (a career 66.7 fWAR pitcher) gets a 95 overall and it's a SS!! Which I thought was supposed to be pumped up...
    This year's cards a total mess

    Awards and Prime cards are pumped up as much as SS cards are, they mentined this in an early stream. A career WAR makes no difference comparing an award card with signature.
    Award - 1 year
    Prime - around 3 years
    Signature - a whole career

    Ok sure. And without going off last year's signatures, since most were pumped up beyond this year, I'll assume they brought SS ratings down judging off Glavine being a 95...

    Glavine was a better pitcher than Newhouser. Plain and simple.. both SS....
    Newhouser is a 98...

    Since they are both SS cards; compare their career stats, Newhouser was better in every metric. Glavine pitched more inning and had more wins, every per 9 besides BB/9 favors Newhouser.

    Newhouser pitched in dead ball era.
    Glavine in the highest scoring era ever

    You can't even begin to go down this road when rating cards for a video game.

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    @Nanthrax_1 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    @pbake12 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    @Nanthrax_1 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    @pbake12 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    @Nanthrax_1 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    The fact that Kluber (a career 34.6 fWAR pitcher) has a god like 99 card, and Tom Glavine (a career 66.7 fWAR pitcher) gets a 95 overall and it's a SS!! Which I thought was supposed to be pumped up...
    This year's cards a total mess

    Awards and Prime cards are pumped up as much as SS cards are, they mentined this in an early stream. A career WAR makes no difference comparing an award card with signature.
    Award - 1 year
    Prime - around 3 years
    Signature - a whole career

    Ok sure. And without going off last year's signatures, since most were pumped up beyond this year, I'll assume they brought SS ratings down judging off Glavine being a 95...

    Glavine was a better pitcher than Newhouser. Plain and simple.. both SS....
    Newhouser is a 98...

    Since they are both SS cards; compare their career stats, Newhouser was better in every metric. Glavine pitched more inning and had more wins, every per 9 besides BB/9 favors Newhouser.

    Newhouser pitched in dead ball era.
    Glavine in the highest scoring era ever

    They don't take these things into effect. Plus the dead ball era ended before Newhouser was born, he pitched in the 1940's and 50's with Ted Williams and his likes who were putting up pretty monster numbers.

    Dead ball era was prior to 1920

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    @Nanthrax_1 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    @pbake12 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    @Nanthrax_1 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    @pbake12 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    @Nanthrax_1 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    The fact that Kluber (a career 34.6 fWAR pitcher) has a god like 99 card, and Tom Glavine (a career 66.7 fWAR pitcher) gets a 95 overall and it's a SS!! Which I thought was supposed to be pumped up...
    This year's cards a total mess

    Awards and Prime cards are pumped up as much as SS cards are, they mentined this in an early stream. A career WAR makes no difference comparing an award card with signature.
    Award - 1 year
    Prime - around 3 years
    Signature - a whole career

    Ok sure. And without going off last year's signatures, since most were pumped up beyond this year, I'll assume they brought SS ratings down judging off Glavine being a 95...

    Glavine was a better pitcher than Newhouser. Plain and simple.. both SS....
    Newhouser is a 98...

    Since they are both SS cards; compare their career stats, Newhouser was better in every metric. Glavine pitched more inning and had more wins, every per 9 besides BB/9 favors Newhouser.

    Newhouser pitched in dead ball era.
    Glavine in the highest scoring era ever

    I mean if you want to go that route.
    Newhouser's 5.4 K/9 is way more impressive then Glavine's 5.3 because Newhouser pitched in an era with much less strikeouts

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    @pbake12 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    @Nanthrax_1 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    @pbake12 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    @Nanthrax_1 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    @pbake12 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    @Nanthrax_1 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    The fact that Kluber (a career 34.6 fWAR pitcher) has a god like 99 card, and Tom Glavine (a career 66.7 fWAR pitcher) gets a 95 overall and it's a SS!! Which I thought was supposed to be pumped up...
    This year's cards a total mess

    Awards and Prime cards are pumped up as much as SS cards are, they mentined this in an early stream. A career WAR makes no difference comparing an award card with signature.
    Award - 1 year
    Prime - around 3 years
    Signature - a whole career

    Ok sure. And without going off last year's signatures, since most were pumped up beyond this year, I'll assume they brought SS ratings down judging off Glavine being a 95...

    Glavine was a better pitcher than Newhouser. Plain and simple.. both SS....
    Newhouser is a 98...

    Since they are both SS cards; compare their career stats, Newhouser was better in every metric. Glavine pitched more inning and had more wins, every per 9 besides BB/9 favors Newhouser.

    Newhouser pitched in dead ball era.
    Glavine in the highest scoring era ever

    They don't take these things into effect. Plus the dead ball era ended before Newhouser was born, he pitched in the 1940's and 50's with Ted Williams and his likes who were putting up pretty monster numbers.

    Dead ball era was prior to 1920

    Ya, sorry, not the dead ball era but the minor dead ball period of the 60's where runs per game were back under 4 and owners were once again trying to liven the game up because it was boring... That period

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    @Nanthrax_1 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    @pbake12 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    @Nanthrax_1 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    The fact that Kluber (a career 34.6 fWAR pitcher) has a god like 99 card, and Tom Glavine (a career 66.7 fWAR pitcher) gets a 95 overall and it's a SS!! Which I thought was supposed to be pumped up...
    This year's cards a total mess

    Awards and Prime cards are pumped up as much as SS cards are, they mentined this in an early stream. A career WAR makes no difference comparing an award card with signature.
    Award - 1 year
    Prime - around 3 years
    Signature - a whole career

    Ok sure. And without going off last year's signatures, since most were pumped up beyond this year, I'll assume they brought SS ratings down judging off Glavine being a 95...

    Glavine was a better pitcher than Newhouser. Plain and simple.. both SS....
    Newhouser is a 98...

    I disagree. Hal Newhouser is the only Pitcher ever to win back to back MVP Awards in 1944 & 1945, & a World Series Champion, and.....wait for it.....oh!!! He’s also in the Hall of Fame!

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    @Nanthrax_1 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    @pbake12 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    @Nanthrax_1 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    @pbake12 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    @Nanthrax_1 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    @pbake12 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    @Nanthrax_1 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    The fact that Kluber (a career 34.6 fWAR pitcher) has a god like 99 card, and Tom Glavine (a career 66.7 fWAR pitcher) gets a 95 overall and it's a SS!! Which I thought was supposed to be pumped up...
    This year's cards a total mess

    Awards and Prime cards are pumped up as much as SS cards are, they mentined this in an early stream. A career WAR makes no difference comparing an award card with signature.
    Award - 1 year
    Prime - around 3 years
    Signature - a whole career

    Ok sure. And without going off last year's signatures, since most were pumped up beyond this year, I'll assume they brought SS ratings down judging off Glavine being a 95...

    Glavine was a better pitcher than Newhouser. Plain and simple.. both SS....
    Newhouser is a 98...

    Since they are both SS cards; compare their career stats, Newhouser was better in every metric. Glavine pitched more inning and had more wins, every per 9 besides BB/9 favors Newhouser.

    Newhouser pitched in dead ball era.
    Glavine in the highest scoring era ever

    They don't take these things into effect. Plus the dead ball era ended before Newhouser was born, he pitched in the 1940's and 50's with Ted Williams and his likes who were putting up pretty monster numbers.

    Dead ball era was prior to 1920

    Ya, sorry, not the dead ball era but the minor dead ball period of the 60's where runs per game were back under 4 and owners were once again trying to liven the game up because it was boring... That period

    Still doesn't help your argument because Hal peaked during WW2....lol

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    @Jeviduty said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    @Nanthrax_1 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    @pbake12 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    @Nanthrax_1 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    @pbake12 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    @Nanthrax_1 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    @pbake12 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    @Nanthrax_1 said in Tom Glavine = John Lester???:

    The fact that Kluber (a career 34.6 fWAR pitcher) has a god like 99 card, and Tom Glavine (a career 66.7 fWAR pitcher) gets a 95 overall and it's a SS!! Which I thought was supposed to be pumped up...
    This year's cards a total mess

    Awards and Prime cards are pumped up as much as SS cards are, they mentined this in an early stream. A career WAR makes no difference comparing an award card with signature.
    Award - 1 year
    Prime - around 3 years
    Signature - a whole career

    Ok sure. And without going off last year's signatures, since most were pumped up beyond this year, I'll assume they brought SS ratings down judging off Glavine being a 95...

    Glavine was a better pitcher than Newhouser. Plain and simple.. both SS....
    Newhouser is a 98...

    Since they are both SS cards; compare their career stats, Newhouser was better in every metric. Glavine pitched more inning and had more wins, every per 9 besides BB/9 favors Newhouser.

    Newhouser pitched in dead ball era.
    Glavine in the highest scoring era ever

    They don't take these things into effect. Plus the dead ball era ended before Newhouser was born, he pitched in the 1940's and 50's with Ted Williams and his likes who were putting up pretty monster numbers.

    Dead ball era was prior to 1920

    Ya, sorry, not the dead ball era but the minor dead ball period of the 60's where runs per game were back under 4 and owners were once again trying to liven the game up because it was boring... That period

    Still doesn't help your argument because Hal peaked during WW2....lol

    Ya I now realize that. Good call lol

    Glavine just accumulated because he played 5 years longer

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    WAR doesn't travel time periods as well as people make it out to be. WAR is a reflection of a player's value above league average.

    The game was played completely different in both Newhouser's and Glavine's eras.

    BUT THATS NOT THE POINT OF THE OP!!!!!!

    Who gives a [censored] about Newhouser.
    We're talking about a HOF pitcher being rated lower than FS and some other career cards that shouldn't be better.

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