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@Nanthrax_1 said in Headliner Packs 14-43:
@formallyforearms said in Headliner Packs 14-43:
@genopolanco said in Headliner Packs 14-43:
@formallyforearms said in Headliner Packs 14-43:
@Chuck_Dizzle29 said in Headliner Packs 14-43:
@formallyforearms said in Headliner Packs 14-43:
@Jeviduty said in Headliner Packs 14-43:
Jeez...you're so triggered. DD is a fantasy mode no one drew the line at 1918 Legends. They're not doing a bad job of creatively releasing content during a year in which there's no baseball. Maybe they figured they'd look into the future during a lost year. You honestly need to chill the hell out.
The majority of these players from "1918" earned the right to have high rated diamonds through their real life production and subsequent HOF inductions.
The majority of these future stars haven't played a single game in MLB, so giving them high rated diamond cards makes as much sense as giving Macho Man one because he played in the minors.
They also didn't play against people of color or 102mph Sinkers...
️So that means that Kevin Smith deserves a rating nearly equal to that of Ty Cobb or Rogers Hornsby?
These are literally fabricated cards with random prospects names attached to them in the name of content. If they replaced Kevin Smith with Optimus Prime, Scooby Doo or Joffrey Baratheon it would be the same thing.
The Ty Cobb and Hornsby cards aren’t their highest version though. That’s like saying why are there so many cards rated higher than 84 Frank Thomas.
But they're based on real seasons? You actually trying to convince me that Kevin Smith's fabricated rating (with no statistical data to back it up) is somehow equivalent to Ty Cobbs real 1907 season?
This!
It basically renders "season cards" useless and makes the signature series style cards the only cards that are useable now because "non top prospects" are rated higher than Ty Cobb's 1907, or a season by the greatest 3B ever Mike Schmidt...
It does render individual season cards useless. I agree and I don’t like it. But I also expected it after last year. Same thing happened last year with SS cards. They are obviously going to keep going down this path. There was outcry last year and it ended up being a great year content wise right? Just let things settle and see how things are in a month. These are just novelty cards for the time being.
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@DriveByTrucker17 said in Headliner Packs 14-43:
At least the guys from the 1920’s earned their ratings
So everyone's Create A Player on their DD squad earned their MLB ratings?
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What if they released even higher FOTF cards instead. Like a 93 Suarez? Think he’s ever been better than Mike Schmidt?
You still have to be realistic with them releasing multiple cards of the same player. They have to balance it some how otherwise you get the same lineups.
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@genopolanco said in Headliner Packs 14-43:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Headliner Packs 14-43:
@formallyforearms said in Headliner Packs 14-43:
@genopolanco said in Headliner Packs 14-43:
@formallyforearms said in Headliner Packs 14-43:
@Chuck_Dizzle29 said in Headliner Packs 14-43:
@formallyforearms said in Headliner Packs 14-43:
@Jeviduty said in Headliner Packs 14-43:
Jeez...you're so triggered. DD is a fantasy mode no one drew the line at 1918 Legends. They're not doing a bad job of creatively releasing content during a year in which there's no baseball. Maybe they figured they'd look into the future during a lost year. You honestly need to chill the hell out.
The majority of these players from "1918" earned the right to have high rated diamonds through their real life production and subsequent HOF inductions.
The majority of these future stars haven't played a single game in MLB, so giving them high rated diamond cards makes as much sense as giving Macho Man one because he played in the minors.
They also didn't play against people of color or 102mph Sinkers...
️So that means that Kevin Smith deserves a rating nearly equal to that of Ty Cobb or Rogers Hornsby?
These are literally fabricated cards with random prospects names attached to them in the name of content. If they replaced Kevin Smith with Optimus Prime, Scooby Doo or Joffrey Baratheon it would be the same thing.
The Ty Cobb and Hornsby cards aren’t their highest version though. That’s like saying why are there so many cards rated higher than 84 Frank Thomas.
But they're based on real seasons? You actually trying to convince me that Kevin Smith's fabricated rating (with no statistical data to back it up) is somehow equivalent to Ty Cobbs real 1907 season?
This!
It basically renders "season cards" useless and makes the signature series style cards the only cards that are useable now because "non top prospects" are rated higher than Ty Cobb's 1907, or a season by the greatest 3B ever Mike Schmidt...
It does render individual season cards useless. I agree and I don’t like it. But I also expected it after last year. Same thing happened last year with SS cards. They are obviously going to keep going down this path. There was outcry last year and it ended up being a great year content wise right? Just let things settle and see how things are in a month. These are just novelty cards for the time being.
Sure, last year's content was pretty good. I wasn't as crazy about it as some but there was quantity for sure. I'd prefer realistic season cards. This isn't the direction I wanted, and now we've gone off the deep end.
I feel most baseball enthusiasts would agree with me..
baseball has by far the most colorful and interesting history. And they fail badly to convey it and take advantage of the potential that's there.. -
@CajunShooter said in Headliner Packs 14-43:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in Headliner Packs 14-43:
At least the guys from the 1920’s earned their ratings
So everyone's Create A Player on their DD squad earned their MLB ratings?
To be fair, a lot of us hate CAPs too. I've never made one.
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@maskedgrappler said in Headliner Packs 14-43:
@CajunShooter said in Headliner Packs 14-43:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in Headliner Packs 14-43:
At least the guys from the 1920’s earned their ratings
So everyone's Create A Player on their DD squad earned their MLB ratings?
To be fair, a lot of us hate CAPs too. I've never made one.
Yup same here. I don't hate them I just don't ever utilize one.
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@genopolanco said in Headliner Packs 14-43:
What if they released even higher FOTF cards instead. Like a 93 Suarez? Think he’s ever been better than Mike Schmidt?
You still have to be realistic with them releasing multiple cards of the same player. They have to balance it some how otherwise you get the same lineups.
The problem here is they artificial lower overalls on season cards to make the eventual SS look better.
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@maskedgrappler said in Headliner Packs 14-43:
@CajunShooter said in Headliner Packs 14-43:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in Headliner Packs 14-43:
At least the guys from the 1920’s earned their ratings
So everyone's Create A Player on their DD squad earned their MLB ratings?
To be fair, a lot of us hate CAPs too. I've never made one.
In theory they are an amazing idea. Someone can make a version of themselves to play alongside all time greats. They can create legends that arent represented. They can create a better version of modern players that may be their favorite player.
As it is, people just use them to find the most glitchy way of making players, and attach some stupid/immature/hilarious/political/inside joke/character name.
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@maskedgrappler said in Headliner Packs 14-43:
@genopolanco said in Headliner Packs 14-43:
What if they released even higher FOTF cards instead. Like a 93 Suarez? Think he’s ever been better than Mike Schmidt?
You still have to be realistic with them releasing multiple cards of the same player. They have to balance it some how otherwise you get the same lineups.
The problem here is they artificial lower overalls on season cards to make the eventual SS look better.
I agree. Same with Live Series. But they did the same thing last year. So why did you expect it to be different?
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yeah screw SDS for giving us free good diamonds we can grind for and are a part of our favorite teams farm system that eventually will be a part of the teams future.
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@guccigangchuck said in Headliner Packs 14-43:
yeah screw SDS for giving us free good diamonds we can grind for and are a part of our favorite teams farm system that eventually will be a part of the teams future.
If they were actual top prospects of every team and rated a little more properly based on the cards we have either worked hard to get or spend a lot on, not be rendered useless then sure.. but most of these are not top prospects at all and are better than very expensive cards
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@Nanthrax_1 said in Headliner Packs 14-43:
@guccigangchuck said in Headliner Packs 14-43:
yeah screw SDS for giving us free good diamonds we can grind for and are a part of our favorite teams farm system that eventually will be a part of the teams future.
If they were actual top prospects of every team and rated a little more properly based on the cards we have either worked hard to get or spend a lot on, not be rendered useless then sure.. but most of these are not top prospects at all and are better than very expensive cards
Who cares? Its a video game and they are free to acquire. Its April. This years game is a no money spent dream for team building.
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@guccigangchuck said in Headliner Packs 14-43:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Headliner Packs 14-43:
@guccigangchuck said in Headliner Packs 14-43:
yeah screw SDS for giving us free good diamonds we can grind for and are a part of our favorite teams farm system that eventually will be a part of the teams future.
If they were actual top prospects of every team and rated a little more properly based on the cards we have either worked hard to get or spend a lot on, not be rendered useless then sure.. but most of these are not top prospects at all and are better than very expensive cards
Who cares? Its a video game and they are free to acquire. Its April. This years game is a no money spent dream for team building.
Lots of people care.. everyone knows it's a video game... Some have better expectations on their experience.. some care about accurate content. And some love baseball and want an accurate representation of their favorite sport...
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@Nanthrax_1 said in Headliner Packs 14-43:
@guccigangchuck said in Headliner Packs 14-43:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Headliner Packs 14-43:
@guccigangchuck said in Headliner Packs 14-43:
yeah screw SDS for giving us free good diamonds we can grind for and are a part of our favorite teams farm system that eventually will be a part of the teams future.
If they were actual top prospects of every team and rated a little more properly based on the cards we have either worked hard to get or spend a lot on, not be rendered useless then sure.. but most of these are not top prospects at all and are better than very expensive cards
Who cares? Its a video game and they are free to acquire. Its April. This years game is a no money spent dream for team building.
Lots of people care.. everyone knows it's a video game... Some have better expectations on their experience.. some care about accurate content. And some love baseball and want an accurate representation of their favorite sport...
This man gets it.
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@DriveByTrucker17 said in Headliner Packs 14-43:
Nick Madrigal should never be “predicted” to be a 95. Kevin Smith will never be close to a 90. Check back in 4-5 years and I guarantee you almost none of these Future Stars will be even close to the overall that SDS has given them.
3 years ago, SDS had Alex Bregman topping out at a high gold.
... Oops!
https://mlb17.theshownation.com/marketplace/listing?item_ref_id=25658
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@Billyceee said in Headliner Packs 14-43:
I don't know the big fuss over this. Everyone was sick of playing the same exact team every game, now they give options of future stars cards and everyone hates it because its unrealistic.
You can't have it both ways.
And then next month, there will be a bunch more cards and people will move on. It sucks that people can’t go outside. Some of these mouth breathers drastically need the fresh air.
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@SaveFarris said in Headliner Packs 14-43:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in Headliner Packs 14-43:
Nick Madrigal should never be “predicted” to be a 95. Kevin Smith will never be close to a 90. Check back in 4-5 years and I guarantee you almost none of these Future Stars will be even close to the overall that SDS has given them.
3 years ago, SDS had Alex Bregman topping out at a high gold.
... Oops!
https://mlb17.theshownation.com/marketplace/listing?item_ref_id=25658
It’s always better to underpredict than to overpredict.
Kinda hard to predict who’s going to cheat though.
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I don’t want to say I’m surprised because I’m not but I can’t believe people are still crying about some cards stats in the most unrealistic game mode in sports games.
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@formallyforearms said in Headliner Packs 14-43:
@maskedgrappler said in Headliner Packs 14-43:
@CajunShooter said in Headliner Packs 14-43:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in Headliner Packs 14-43:
At least the guys from the 1920’s earned their ratings
So everyone's Create A Player on their DD squad earned their MLB ratings?
To be fair, a lot of us hate CAPs too. I've never made one.
In theory they are an amazing idea. Someone can make a version of themselves to play alongside all time greats. They can create legends that arent represented. They can create a better version of modern players that may be their favorite player.
As it is, people just use them to find the most glitchy way of making players, and attach some stupid/immature/hilarious/political/inside joke/character name.
I had a pretty realistic looking Derek Jeter CAP that I played at short for a little while last year. I got all the specs from a YouTube video and it came out really good. When I got another SS I wanted to try, I put my CAP at catcher but it was weird having Jeter back there. I ended up switching him to something generic. It’s a shame they don’t have different name / appearance slots for each position.
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It all boils down to a battle of groups here. One side looks at attributes and animations, with the names and appearances being largely irrelevant. The other looks at the same attributes, animations, names and appearances as an actual representation of said player.
If SDS wanted to, they could save money by not buying any rights to former players and instead create whatever fabricated individual characters they wanted. It seems that one group would be more than happy with that, while the other group would hate it.
