New Survey Out
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@Thongypu_PSN ok thats cool. But its forcing players like me to also play offline. Playing vs the cpu will never be fun to me. They need to seperate us at this point.
I understand that but I think the game does a decent job forcing offline and online players to spend time getting the best rewards. It ends up being quite fair. Both sides have to do things they don't want to for the best rewards but I wish there was more content for both.
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@Thongypu_PSN fair point. Yes give us both more content for sure! More programs for both 100 percent.
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I still don't get blaming the offline gamers. I have said it multiple times now that no offline gamer requested that all the offline rewards be flagged as no sell. In fact most, if not all, of us wish we could sell some our rewards to online players who don't want to play offline.
Is it fair that the online players can make stubs selling their rewards while offline players can't do the same? And online players know that they have an advantage in that regard. Just look at how many had a fit over the Acuna card showing up in a pack causing his value to fall.
We play offline. We don't care if online players get these offline reward cards by playing online. It does not effect us.
I think the one thing we can all agree on is that programs should have enough built in missions to earn the cards strictly offline or strictly online depending on user choice
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@Dolenz_PSN what offline rewards does online players get lol? Only diamond quest cards can be bought. All multiplayer players can be bought outside the ranked cards. Ofc people were upset they took a card that was an exclusive online reward and killed it almost immediately. I sorta agree they have most programs that obtainable for both sides. But they could also keep some of it separate.
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@Dolenz_PSN we are just gonna have to agree to disagree at this point. 99 percent of online cards can be purchased. Cant say the same for offline cards.
Maybe its not offline players faults that sds made a bone head dumb a.. decision to take away all the online programs away from us? So maybe I am blaming you guys for that. It could be i dont know.
I just want to have fun and enjoy the game. Im playing way too much offline this year. Way way way too much and its not fun. I have no choice if I want to keep up. I will not be purchasing the game next year if I have devote 70 percent of my time playing offline again. Ill be done.
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@Dolenz we are just gonna have to agree to disagree at this point. 99 percent of online cards can be purchased. Cant say the same for offline cards
I am not sure we are disagreeing on that point. You don't want offline rewards to be no sell and I don't want offline rewards to be no sell.
Both sides would benefit from offline rewards being sellable. You can get cards without playing offline and I can earn more stubs without needing to sell the few diamonds I pulled from packs that I have that I would have otherwise held on to.
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There isn’t a card that you can’t buy from online programs other than the actual top whatever rank cards. You can buy any player from the multiplayer programs. We can buy diamond quest players but none of the mini seasons or conquest players.
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@Apolloz_99_MLBTS right so why give offline players the ability to purchase cards from online. And not give online players the ability to purchase from offline programs.
This is what im saying. This is my last year if I have to devote so much time in a mode I dont want to play. I dont want to play offline. I dont mind it once in a while. I could live with 20 percent. But yet im playing offline at least 70 percent of my game time, to progress. Total bs. Too much. Im an online player to my core.. being forced to play offline 70 percent of the time. Ridiculous
Hit ws in ranked, finished the event program there is nothing left online for me to play. Unles I want to mindlessly play events and blow through the multi-player program. Would take a week max, done with that also.
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@palmerjones_PSN right. Give us online players more to play for. Right now its all offline grinding. 15 mini seasons, 15 conquests maps, dq maps, Showdowns.. they give us ranked and a lousy event once a week that takes 10 games max to finish it.
Battle royale is pointless. Non subject.
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Not to say it’s Joe’s responsibility but even he doesn’t have an answer because even he knows this game is dog water!!! This company says a whole bunch of stuff to gas light its community and then goes on streams and never addressing the real issues of the game. They have no pr department and if they do it’s a bunch of introverted 3rd graders that can’t handle conflict. I feel they get bagged on so much because they never really give us explanations on what’s going on and why their game isn’t working. In all honesty I feel bad for Joe because he takes the brunt of all these comments and sds just keeps sending him back out here to take the bullets.
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@Dolenz_PSN we are just gonna have to agree to disagree at this point. 99 percent of online cards can be purchased. Cant say the same for offline cards.
Maybe its not offline players faults that sds made a bone head dumb a.. decision to take away all the online programs away from us? So maybe I am blaming you guys for that. It could be i dont know.
I just want to have fun and enjoy the game. Im playing way too much offline this year. Way way way too much and its not fun. I have no choice if I want to keep up. I will not be purchasing the game next year if I have devote 70 percent of my time playing offline again. Ill be done.
You are absolutely blaming the wrong group. When did any offline player ask to remove a program we don't care about or ask for more no-sell cards? Put in a little thought before making ignorant accusations. I get your frustration about offline content. Even as an offline player, I called out in the survey that there is too much offline content that's meant to just support each new card series to push out more packs. I just want to relax and play the game with the players I enjoy. I can't do that when a new card series comes out every 2-3 weeks with a supporting mini-season.
The problem isn't the fanbase. The problem is SDS asks for feedback but doesn't listen to it. 3-4 years ago there were a couple fun themed mini-seasons (gold series and lefty-vs-lefty). People asked for more of those so we got more mini-seasons that are now used to drive new card series. Also, the last 2-3 years, players said that Team Affinity discouraged the use of Negro League players and asked for a Negro League path in TA. SDS's solution was to gut TA almost entirely.
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I hope SDS is not reading this debate so they can make a decision about “should we accommodate the online players or the offline players” because that would just make one side upset and the other side happy.
Look. It’s quite easy to avoid this while making both sides happy. This is about not making players play modes they don’t like to get cards to finish collections, right? Either make things sellable or make both online and offline play give progress in same programs that have the cards both sides want!
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@NotesOfJohn_PSN sorry that’s facts hurt you feelings because unless they make offline cards sellable what I say was true. We can’t get mini seasons or conquest cards. The only offline mode card we can buy is dq. The only online card you can’t buy is ranked 1000 cards. You just aren’t right this time.
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The online vs offline debate is so easy to solve:
Eliminate mode specific cards. Let us earn everything via either avenue.
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rather them just be sellable. Atleast let us have something for actually doing the work.
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Yes xp, rewards, cards etc. All need to be obtainable the exact same on both avenues. Offline and online players get the same exact everything. Choose a path, online or offline.
Obviously offline will need more work than online like stat missions etc. to earn the same as online.
This may not even be a good solution^ tired of grinding offline.
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I 100% believe that about Joe. That was made completely appearant by the different responses to Bunny in Ultra pack debacle. Joe says he talked to someone and they where going to make it right and send out Ultra packs to those affected. Miguel says that's the way it's supposed to be, deal with it. Seriously? You can pull up the Ultra pack odds 12.5%x8 different program packs, Easter isn't even listed as an possibly. 12.5x8=100.
It's just another example of the game being screwed up and them not wanting to take responsibility or the time to fix it. Sales are going to tank next year.
