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    @SpawnOfDitka_XBL Understood. I guess I am not understanding the issue with it though. Whether you are scratching a lotto ticket or playing a roulette wheel, you still don't know the outcome prior to reveal. It is still exciting to play either, no?

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    @wsudelt778_MLBTS its not as good. When I go to a casino I want random odds. Not pre determined odds. If you give me odds. I want them to be completely random.

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    @SpawnOfDitka_XBL Totally fair perspective. Just wanted to better understand your position.

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    @wsudelt778_MLBTS said:

    @SpawnOfDitka_XBL Understood. I guess I am not understanding the issue with it though. Whether you are scratching a lotto ticket or playing a roulette wheel, you still don't know the outcome prior to reveal. It is still exciting to play either, no?

    Yes. As a bonus. Problem these days is we all want to win the scratchy. And in this games case, the big win scratchy tulowotski plays the same as some dumb other card

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    @JenkinMeyer_PSN Based on this knowledge, pre-determined odds would actually work in your favor. Because the math must balance, you get a decided advantage over anyone that does not follow this strategy. I think you are actually making an argument in favor of pre-determined odds! I will have to try this trick out. I got my Judge pull at 10:30 PST, but I haven't yet pulled Ohtani.

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    Nope, I’m just pointing out factual experience in this game

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    @wsudelt778_MLBTS said:

    @JenkinMeyer_PSN Based on this knowledge, pre-determined odds would actually work in your favor. Because the math must balance, you get a decided advantage over anyone that does not follow this strategy. I think you are actually making an argument in favor of pre-determined odds! I will have to try this trick out. I got my Judge pull at 10:30 PST, but I haven't yet pulled Ohtani.

    A lucky pull doesn’t have to be judge or Ohtani

    It could be miller, Alvarez etc. just open your packs etc but do note if you want good pulls do it in the AM. Report results

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    @JenkinMeyer_PSN But if that is a factual experience, then following that strategy would improve your odds beyond 1:50 to pull diamonds. That is a decided advantage. It would be akin to knowing the store the winning scratch ticket were sold at, but still not knowing which of the scratch tickets is the winner until scratched. Are you saying that you would rather have worse odds if it were totally random rather than pre-determined?! I will give you credit for sticking with your guns, but I definitely would love to take advantage anywhere I can to pull that elusive Ohtani!

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    @JenkinMeyer_PSN I gotcha. I mean I have pulled all of my good pulls at night. I can't play in the AM. I would think there would be significantly more people taking advantage of this if they knew about it. I must be pretty lucky they don't or I wouldn't have pulled anyone haha.

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    @wsudelt778_MLBTS said:

    @JenkinMeyer_PSN But if that is a factual experience, then following that strategy would improve your odds beyond 1:50 to pull diamonds. That is a decided advantage. It would be akin to knowing the store the winning scratch ticket were sold at, but still not knowing which of the scratch tickets is the winner until scratched. Are you saying that you would rather have worse odds if it were totally random rather than pre-determined?! I will give you credit for sticking with your guns, but I definitely would love to take advantage anywhere I can to pull that elusive Ohtani!

    Well, first off all a lottery has a governing body. Any idiot who say, steals a lottery ticket or murders a person who may have won forgets that

    SDS has no governing body

    Someone somewhere has to audit the tickets.

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    I would rather have random odds. I dont want the game engine determining what I get. Pre determined odds can also mean the game knows you just pulled a judge and determine your odds of pulling another good card based off your pull results. Its completely predatory in nature.

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    @JenkinMeyer_PSN said:

    @wsudelt778_MLBTS said:

    @JenkinMeyer_PSN But if that is a factual experience, then following that strategy would improve your odds beyond 1:50 to pull diamonds. That is a decided advantage. It would be akin to knowing the store the winning scratch ticket were sold at, but still not knowing which of the scratch tickets is the winner until scratched. Are you saying that you would rather have worse odds if it were totally random rather than pre-determined?! I will give you credit for sticking with your guns, but I definitely would love to take advantage anywhere I can to pull that elusive Ohtani!

    Well, first off all a lottery has a governing body. Any idiot who say, steals a lottery ticket or murders a person who may have won forgets that

    SDS has no governing body

    Someone somewhere has to audit the tickets.

    Besides all the bills and legislation passed about loot boxes that are regulated all over the world by each individual country?

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    You mean the people just now aware of how much money their kids have spent on stupid [censored]?

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    @DeleteyourTTVBTW_MLBTS said:

    @JenkinMeyer_PSN said:

    @wsudelt778_MLBTS said:

    @JenkinMeyer_PSN But if that is a factual experience, then following that strategy would improve your odds beyond 1:50 to pull diamonds. That is a decided advantage. It would be akin to knowing the store the winning scratch ticket were sold at, but still not knowing which of the scratch tickets is the winner until scratched. Are you saying that you would rather have worse odds if it were totally random rather than pre-determined?! I will give you credit for sticking with your guns, but I definitely would love to take advantage anywhere I can to pull that elusive Ohtani!

    Well, first off all a lottery has a governing body. Any idiot who say, steals a lottery ticket or murders a person who may have won forgets that

    SDS has no governing body

    Someone somewhere has to audit the tickets.

    Besides all the bills and legislation passed about loot boxes that are regulated all over the world by each individual country?

    Im not arguing with you other than to be fun. Its funny how all the legislation doesn’t amount to squat. Carry on

    Opening a pack of MLB the Show 26 cards may as well have a warning labels on them: odds are you’re going to be disappointed and have cancer

    Yet they make them rewards

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    @JenkinMeyer_PSN I definitely understand if you would appreciate some audit validation of the odds. Tough to take a loot box company at their word. Regardless of what the true baseline odds are (honestly stated or not) following that factual AM opening strategy would improve yours against baseline and would thus create a decided advantage, no? I don't want to move the goal post here. Just want to pin down an understanding of different folks' perspectives.

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    @wsudelt778_MLBTS

    Everyone is playing for the loot box results, instead of playing the actual [censored] game

    They should have realized this years ago but they’re dumb

    Now we have this

    Many people are not having fun. Don’t have a stat. Money doesn’t = interest in a game

    This year it seems many more people are having even less fun.

    Is it packs, or gameplay?

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    @SpawnOfDitka_XBL I’ve gone hundreds of packs without a diamond. I’ve also had 2 in 1 pack twice this year. It’s all luck.

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    @SpawnOfDitka_XBL I can appreciate the desire for random odds. I respect that you stick to what you prefer here. I also agree that loot boxes/gacha games are predatory in nature. I personally don't mind whether the odds of these are pre-determined or totally random though as I won't spend any money on anything but the base game so I just take what I get. I can see the emotional attachment that some folks on here have about getting the best cards to battle in multiplayer, but I am not very good online so I can't speak to the advantage of any given card in that scene and whether or not it is fair to have a pre-determined amount of them available (through gatekeepers in pre-determined packs to complete the collections).

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    @MarioMendoza935_XBL I don’t think the other mini seasons are bad or not worth it. I just think classic is the most rewarding and you can use any player.

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    @JenkinMeyer_PSN I don't know that we can speak in absolutes here. I didn't play MLBtheShow for about a half decade. Played '25 for a month last year around the World Series. Picked it up this year because my son is playing baseball and have been having an absolute blast. I expect nothing from those packs but man was I excited when Judge flipped around. I have a long way to go to collect them all but I am having fun playing the game with each new card I get to try and find the cards I enjoy most. I even roped a close friend in that said he would never play. He is also having a blast. I definitely know they have some things that they can improve, but I have really enjoyed my time playing and feel like its a great value for what I spent on the game. I won't speak for everyone, but I am really having fun playing MLBtheShow.

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