Where are the TOP PROSPECTS??!!
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I have to disagree with y'all.
It has little to nothing to do with 'player consent'. Although it's absolutely true that players must give consent to use their likeness, it's not the reason for the lack of face scans.
#1 SDS is not constantly sending out employees and equipment to ball parks to get the scans of all the missing players. I'm certain it's too costly and time consuming to do so. Therefore, scans are done in set locations. Which leads to ...
#2 Player apathy. They just don't care enough to make a special trip to go to SDS and get the scan done. If they were there, at the park or somewhere convenient to do so, I'm sure they would. But they aren't going to go out of their way for a vidya game.
Would you if you were a ballplayer? If you owned a video game company and knew the exuberant cost and logistical difficulty to set up a team at every MLB stadium for scans and knowing that it just isn't financially feasible to do so, would you do it just to appease a few players who are that particular about faces? Of course not, there far greater issues in this game than lacking face scans. Cheating, marketplace bots frame rate drop, content issues, gameplay issues, server issues, app issues......
And by the way I don't really understand the anger about face scans anyways... I'm paying close attention to the pitchers release point and ball coming out of his hand not the players' face. Especially the batter's....
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I'm not angry, I'm just trying to explain to those that are, the reasons not everyone is getting face scanned.
However, I can empathize with those that are upset. The CPU generated faces are complete junk.
Back in the day, when playing any video game that allowed you to use a player creator, myself and friends used to use the 'maximum face' method. You would set every single slider to full. You would end up with the most disturbing looking creations possible. This is what a lot of the generated faces look like. This is why some people are so upset.
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@genopolanco_psn Nah, I always thought he was just like Asmongold, creating problems out of thin air, like he always does.
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@fubar2k7_PSN if that is your opinion that is cool, but most people would say what the game looks like is a big part of gameplay quality, especially a game that is largely about the players. I'm with you I want other parts of the gameplay to be better too. I'm just saying I think this aspect of the game is important to a lot of people and it seems like it is being neglected, so it makes sense for people to go after SDS about it. Just wondering, what parts of the gameplay do you think should be better?
I could go on forever but I think foul ball rates are asinine. They’re double real life games. The game has an incredibly high amount of action with 2 outs for the me and the CPU and none with 0 or 1. I play DD and franchise so I don’t play with the sliders but use Dynamic Difficulty. My pitching is out of the 1910s and offense is ridiculous or stagnant depending on what day of the week it is.
There was a time they didn’t do anything with player models at all once the game launched. Clearly before it was out for other consoles so for me this is not important. Pre-existing save files don’t get the updates anyways. They are there for players he named but to get them you have to start a new franchise at each new scan for the younger players or don’t play until all the scans are done.
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@StinkyMcPooter_XBL I think they’re using the app and sending in a scan that’s being used until they have the time to get there. They’re trying to actually stick around in the major leagues not get their faces scanned for the game. I never said I don’t like that the players don’t update in my existing save file. But, I also played 15-18 versions of this game that had zero additions to player models once the game launched so it is what it is.
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@SaveFarris_PSN so 4 years ago was the “Wild West”
Math must not be your strong suit either. I specifically referenced 1995. That was 31 years ago, not 5.
again stop making excuses for SDS when you have no idea what you’re talking about. You all have a different excuse of why they can’t get scans but I continue to prove you wrong
You've done no such thing, unless you ignore the actual law (O'Bannon v NCAA).
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Just curious why you’re so certain the lack of face scans is because of legal issues and not because of SDS just slacking? You are basically speaking like you know this is as a fact so I’m curious where you’re getting your information from.
Because there’s a lot of things from other aspects of this game and how SDS has done things the past few years to make me think it is equally, if not, more likely that the reason for the lack of face scans in the game is just from complacency.
I’d love to see some proof and be wrong, but I don’t understand why so many people are quick to jump to conclusions about legal issues and giving SDS an excuse for what could just be a lack of effort.
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You can't force any player to do a face scan so the faster that you realize that the faster we can stop talking about it. It's not easy to do every single player that needs one in the game
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Just curious why you’re so certain the lack of face scans is because of legal issues and not because of SDS just slacking? You are basically speaking like you know this is as a fact so I’m curious where you’re getting your information from.
Because there’s a lot of things from other aspects of this game and how SDS has done things the past few years to make me think it is equally, if not, more likely that the reason for the lack of face scans in the game is just from complacency.
I’d love to see some proof and be wrong, but I don’t understand why so many people are quick to jump to conclusions about legal issues and giving SDS an excuse for what could just be a lack of effort.
They showed the system used for scanning players in one of the streams. It isn’t something they can just carry around easily.
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@dodgers19k88_mlbts It'll also create huge time constraints.
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@PolKrout_XBL
SDS "hey player"
Player "what"
SDS "put your hands behind your back so i can get a face scan"So basically, that's what you want
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I just want to know why we can't have ANTHONY as a audio for last name even though the audio is IN THE GAME already
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@easedel_MLBTS the last name audio situation is rough - I used a custom roster last year for more realistic potentials and the person who edited the players had to put in ‘Calderon’ as the audio for Jac Caglianone’s last name (I get he was a rookie but come on lol)
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Calderon
Jose Calderon?
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Just curious why you’re so certain the lack of face scans is because of legal issues and not because of SDS just slacking? You are basically speaking like you know this is as a fact so I’m curious where you’re getting your information from.
Because there’s a lot of things from other aspects of this game and how SDS has done things the past few years to make me think it is equally, if not, more likely that the reason for the lack of face scans in the game is just from complacency.
I’d love to see some proof and be wrong, but I don’t understand why so many people are quick to jump to conclusions about legal issues and giving SDS an excuse for what could just be a lack of effort.
The reason I'm so certain is because the law is the law. You can't use player face scans without their approval and you can't force them to give you approval. And the reason we know they're not "slacking' is because they're adding as many as they are. If your theory of the case is correct, they wouldn't be adding any.
It may not be the answer you're looking for, but it's out of their hands.
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Really a lot more things in this old world to worry about than face scans. Sorry it's keeping you up at night.
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Really a lot more things in this old world to worry about than face scans. Sorry it's keeping you up at night.
Shoot, I'd play with faceless stick figures if SDS would just fix the servers.
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@SaveFarris_PSN this does not make sense. Image rights have been around long before the last few years. What has changed is the pattern of behavior from SDS. Also, they have barely added new scans this year. They have updated scans for players they already had, which is not the same thing. Adding a handful of scans and leaving a ton of important players with generic faces is definitely slacking. Again, this is not about forcing players to do things against their will or SDS doing something illegal, it's about SDS doing their job within the law, as they have done in years before, to hit the standard of product we expect from them, which they have done in the past.
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@SaveFarris_PSN why do you keep referencing a case that is about amateur athletes from 2015? This does not apply to professional athletes nor does it apply to SDS behavior in the last few years. If this case was the reason for them doing worse, the trend would have started 10 years ago
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So, this is directly from MLBPA:
For several decades, MLBPA has conducted a worldwide group licensing program on behalf of all Major League Baseball Players.
MLBPA holds the exclusive, worldwide right to use, license, and sublicense the names, numbers, nicknames, likenesses, signatures, playing records and biographical data (known as “publicity rights”) of all active MLB players (collectively, the “rights”) for use in or in connection with any brand, product, service or product line in various circumstances, including when more than two Players are involved in such brand, product line or other venture. Recently, MLBPA appointed MLB Players, Inc. to represent MLBPA in connection with its licensing business, and granted MLBPI the authority to (among other things) negotiate, administer and/or manage the licensing, merchandising, sponsorship, promotional and general business activities involving the rights and the MLBPA trademarks.
MLBPA’s rights include several instances, including where the publicity rights of three or more active MLB players are featured on a single product (for example, a single poster featuring three or more Players) or where three or more Players are featured on individual products within a product line or brand (for example, three separate posters, each of which featuring the publicity rights of only one Player, offered by a company in a given year). MLBPA’s rights also include promotional uses in which three or more Players are used by third party to promote a brand, product line or services, including in connection with corporate sponsorship, advertising, promotional materials, sweepstakes, contests, premiums, events, or other programs.
Thus, if SDS has an agreement with MLBPA and subsequently, MLB Players Inc., they have rights to the players likenesses. The only thing that is stopping them from using the player's likeness, is the player has not submitted to a face scan.
