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  • Tandil1368_XBLT Offline
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    I think he isn’t telling us because it’s just not there.

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  • XxSoLiSxX_PSNX Offline
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    Unless its like, you want to change position and it puts it as your secondary its not there yeah. I guess i could try that and see i just dont want it to save and lose hours of prog.

    So if that were to work the trick would be start as your secondary and then switch positions after drafted to new position. Wich i dont even understand why they would put you back to your orig position ever.

    Also i just started a game and at the bottom of the first with 1 out and a runner on first with two have already scored and i was batting fourth.

    This game seems to be getting worse after launch and not better.

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  • Tandil1368_XBLT Offline
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    No, don’t bother I switched my 3rd baseman to shortstop and 3b was gone.

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  • AnthonyTWolf_PSNA Offline
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    @sds_joek_psn brother I’m begging for an answer on this.

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  • easedel_PSNE Offline
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    What a joke

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  • braves137_PSNB Offline
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    I have never seen a company double down on a lie…..
    And think that they have fooled the people they are lying to….

    Just tell us you spend about a week on RTTS improvement each year, about 30 min on franchise, and the rest of the time on diamond dynasty….

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  • genopolanco_PSNG Offline
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    @braves137_PSN

    Double down and then just ignore the thread after lol. It’s honestly crazy from a PR standpoint but this is just how SDS has been rolling lately. Why do they have to care when they have the MLB licensing?

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  • braves137_PSNB Offline
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    @genopolanco_PSN the only hope we have at this point is another developer coming in and taking it

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  • easedel_PSNE Offline
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    Bumping it up until we get a correction

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  • genopolanco_PSNG Offline
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    @sds_joek_psn can we get a response please?

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    Hey everyone,

    I've been working on getting some additional clarity from the team here. It turns out that non-two-way players cannot have secondary positions after all. Apologies for the confusion on this.

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  • Tandil1368_XBLT Offline
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    @sds_joek_psn

    I specifically preordered this year after they answered on the Twitch stream that it was available right from the start. We have been asking for this for over 5 years. I and many others noticed that secondary positions were made to work on DD but left RTTS in the cold. This years game absolutely broken and truly feel I was ripped off of my $90. I have serious feeling that sales next year are going plummet especially with RTTS only players like myself.

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  • easedel_PSNE Offline
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    What an absolute joke of a release this has been. Did the absolute bare minimum and slapped a high price tag on the game.

    Same exact bugs from last year in this year. Yea im done.

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  • lastingimpact_PSNL Offline
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    Anybody remember 2019 where you could just pick your secondary position in the menu at the start? One of these days we'll get back features that were in the game a decade ago.

    Anyway, don't know what can even be said that hasn't been said already. There's clearly a complacency at SDS that I don't see ever lifting at this point without major shakeups that they frankly aren't incentivized to make. The fact that it takes nearly three weeks from a question being asked about a feature for an SDS rep to even know what features are in their game pretty much says it all. No fact checking was performed when a dev officially confirmed a feature that was not in the game. Until there is any competition or until they stop making money hand over fist from Diamond Dynasty this is about all we should ever expect.

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  • AnthonyTWolf_PSNA Offline
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    @SDS_JoeK_PSN can it be added in a patch? I mean how hard can it be. It’s not like you’d have to change any of the cutscene stuff. I would think with this many people wanting it, AND it being said multiple times that it WOULD be in the game, that it should be added in a patch.

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  • XxSoLiSxX_PSNX Offline
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    Takeing bets on if he says Yes, or its already in the game.

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  • genopolanco_PSNG Offline
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    I don’t think it even matters honestly. Even if you have a secondary, you’re always just gonna get auto-started in your primary position anyway.

    It’s too black and white coding for it to matter. At this point just doing a franchise player-lock career is probably the better move.

    You don’t have to see the PS2 quality cut scenes. You can edit other players for when the cpu generates ridiculous looking prospects. More control over brain dead roster moves and lineup decisions. You can wear whatever equipment you want instead of hoping you get lucky enough to get a pair of Nikes.

    Just find an editable prospect that has tons of secondaries and you can finally be a utility player in this game.

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  • Tandil1368_XBLT Offline
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    The sad part that they made such a big thing about how important secondary positions were in DD this year so the code is known. But DD is where they get your $90 then all those juicy micro-transactions every year for stubs.

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    Folks, I hope you can appreciate this. Joe @ SDS just provided the most clear cut and honest answer to any customer related concern that I have read at this community forum in years. Some may see that as a backhanded compliment, but that is due more to the checkered history we have had here, with most all similar issues ignored or replied to in vague forms.

    All that said, let's look at this deeper.

    This isn't a simple upgrade. To implement properly in the game, SDS would have to code the game so that in RTTS there would be a mechanism in place to assign your avatar RTTS player to his primary or secondary position. There is a mechanism already coded in the game for two-way players since the alternate fielding position is not played a day before, during, or after being starting pitcher. For other types of players there would need to be a code sequence to track how many days a player played his primary position before playing the alternate position, or even better an option that did it based on injury to other teammates.

    This isn't of course an impossible hurdle, not by any means, but it means there is likely no chance of this being done this year. Should it be? Of course, given that the majority of players in MLB do train at secondary fielding positions. Moreover, there should also be a career RTTS option for someone to be a utility player and be a generic outfielder/infielder.

    This is the sort of stuff that SDS should have worked on vice create new marketing options. Some will view that as a second backhanded comment, but truth is it is the best advice SDS can get about where they need to focus their attention on. Less marketing and more good old-fashioned coding that makes the game play more faithfully to the real sport.

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  • genopolanco_PSNG Offline
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    @PriorFir4383355_XBL

    I agree. It’s pretty disappointing because they did say in the stream we could have secondaries, then doubled down on it again in this same forum post. But I’ve been skeptical about the implementation from the start because:

    1. They quickly answered a live stream question and didn’t mention anything about it otherwise.

    2. It would take a lot more coding than just the basic “pick your secondaries”. The way RTTS is, it forces your player to play every game in the starting lineup, so to have secondaries actually do anything would require them to change that. Just seemed very unlikely for a 2 second answer on a live stream.

    But I do hope that the backlash they’ve gotten from this lie is that they actually do something about this and let people have a more flexible career and be able to play multiple positions in future games.

    They focused so much on the new sim engine (that is more broke than ever) to allow people to get through a career easier but if we could have more variety in playing all over the field and be a true utility player, that would help how repetitive this mode gets when you’re mid-career more the anything.

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