SDS Turning Into 2K Money Grabbers
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I am just tired of the toxic nonsense with all the dishonesty from the investors. Stop trying to sell this as some huge disaster to the average player.
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@AxiomEnigma_XBL your post is is a Karen post cry more. If you played the game as much as you cry you wouldn’t need to flip cards
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The market is healthy! Bots aren’t ruining anything.
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@SaveFarris_PSN except they’re not. Sure, unusable golds and silvers are at quicksell, but the live series collection is still 2.5 million. Ohtani and Judge are almost a million alone.
But you’ve been told low pack odds and flipping bots is good market health, so you just repeat it and tell everyone how happy you are.
By the way, did you like your day one Mike Trout with 1/40 odds? Or how about your collection you need 140+ cards for, at a price of over 500k on the low side?
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@prettyyboyfloyd_PSN There is an argument to be made that cheaper cards is better for (most) players. Great so my Bryan Woo diamond isn't worth 12k I have to sell him for 6k? Well the other cards are cheaper to so I dont' need that 12k.
It also makes sense to keep prices down to make buying stubs attractive, why the [censored] would I buy stubs if Cal Raleigh is like 300k? But if he's 100k and that's all I need left, it will take me just one purchase.
I myself don't purchase stubs or totally agree with this change, but keeping cards cheaper do benefit people. If i didn't invest, but it still existed, the cards get more expensive and I get left behind.
Maybe you would call those people lazy, not hard enough grinders or whatever, your call. It does benefit people though,
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@xero4019_XBL you should judge the value of live series in terms of how many gold cards it takes. If gold cards are 2.5k, a 2.5m set is a lot easier than when golds average 600-700.
Yes, the total is still high. Ohtani is now 500+ gold cards. Last year he was 150-200 so when you grind out that ballin’ is a gold pack you were 2-3 times closer to finishing live series than you are today.
And that’s specifically because unused cards are all sitting at quick sell and credit card burners are driving up the price of the 9-15 best cards sky high. Because there’s no reason now to buy and hold any more than 1 copy of cards that aren’t on your team.
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@eatyum_PSN you get paid in packs. The packs contain 99.9% cheap cards.
When investors drive the price of those cheap cards up you are getting a raise. When they sell those cards and the price sits at quick sell you are getting minimum wage.
You have to rip 3-4 times as many ballin packs to quick sell the golds to get an ohtani this year compared to last year.
You took a 75% pay cut and you think that’s good?
Do you want a job IRL? I’ll hire you.
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@eatyum_PSN it didn’t keep prices down. All the gatekeepers are at the same level as last year. Argument is dead in the water.
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Or how about your collection you need 140+ cards for, at a price of over 500k on the low side?
You mean that collection that has over 100 cards available for free just by playing the game?
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The market is healthy!
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The market is healthy!
And that's hopefully the last time I am going to read that phrase. I'm not overly invested in either side but seeing that same exact phrase 10 or so times has kind of soured me on your side.
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@Easy_Duhz_It__PSN “taking away their way of doing things is fine because I like my way”
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FWIW, I don’t have much of an opinion here either. I guess if I had a vote, I’d lift the 20 card limit. Why? To me, this is simply a video game. Let me play how I want to. Invest or not invest? Flip or not flip? Hit homers or not? Whatever….
Of course, I’d also make everything you earn sellable. I’d also make perfect/perfect hits in Moments be homers. So, what do I know?
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What is the genesis of trying to kill the investment side of this game? Are you hoping we investors and collectors will just empty our wallets and buy stubs? Quite the opposite. These restrictions STOPPED me from buying stubs.
With this one excerpt, you contradicted the ridiculous title of this post. The "investors", which is a stupid term to use in a BASEBALL game, are the ones who normally empty their wallets to stock up on hundreds of silvers and golds waiting for them to turn diamond so they can jack up the prices anyway. SDS putting a cap on your stockpile kills the idea of wanting people to buy stubs.
Most of us just...ya know....play the game for free packs and stubs. Not everyone has the "gotta have it all, gotta have it right now" mentality.
I can not agree with you more. There are plenty of packs and cyclable resources to increase your stub stash. This game is a marathon not a sprint. If you sprint in this game you wind up broke. You can use the market to supplement like I do to do some lazy flipping but I do it only 15 to 30 minutes a day. 99.9% of resources I have accumulated has been from playing the game.
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@DrBear100_PSN oh ok, so just play exactly the way you play and it’s fine? What about the people who flip more than 15 mins a day? Is that considered too much?
Why is your particular amount ok but not more?
You guys have weird anti-market feeling for a group of people who play a game mode built around a market.
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@DrBear100_PSN oh ok, so just play exactly the way you play and it’s fine? What about the people who flip more than 15 mins a day? Is that considered too much?
Why is your particular amount ok but not more?
You guys have weird anti-market feeling for a group of people who play a game mode built around a market.
You play how you wanna play, I can careless, that's how I play that's all I'm saying.
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What is the genesis of trying to kill the investment side of this game? Are you hoping we investors and collectors will just empty our wallets and buy stubs? Quite the opposite. These restrictions STOPPED me from buying stubs.
With this one excerpt, you contradicted the ridiculous title of this post. The "investors", which is a stupid term to use in a BASEBALL game, are the ones who normally empty their wallets to stock up on hundreds of silvers and golds waiting for them to turn diamond so they can jack up the prices anyway. SDS putting a cap on your stockpile kills the idea of wanting people to buy stubs.
Most of us just...ya know....play the game for free packs and stubs. Not everyone has the "gotta have it all, gotta have it right now" mentality.
I can not agree with you more. There are plenty of packs and cyclable resources to increase your stub stash. This game is a marathon not a sprint. If you sprint in this game you wind up broke. You can use the market to supplement like I do to do some lazy flipping but I do it only 15 to 30 minutes a day. 99.9% of resources I have accumulated has been from playing the game.
And the people who sprint are gone before the break leaving all their [censored] on the market at inflated prices. I'd rather these casuals just leave now really
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@xero4019_XBL, that's a really disingenuous take.
This isnt about market principles. At the heart of your position is this simple truth: you want the rewards without doing any of the work.
And not wanting to do the work is fine; I don't want to spend all of my time grinding away, either, but I accept the fact that I will not have all the things right away unless I want to buy them (I don't).
SDS/Sony has provided three paths to obtaining the best cards: put in the time and earn them over several months of play (while still being able to supplement with "investments" in blocks of 20), skip that and purchase them for real money, or get really lucky and pull them in the hundreds of packs they provide for free. It is their prerogative to define the terms through which you can obtain the very non-essential goods they provide.
The argument that they should not be allowed to do that because it makes you sad is tantamount to a child's tantrum.
You're being selfish, so if youre going to take that path, stop trying to frame it in terms of market economics when your goal is to pressure a for-profit company to give away something of value, against its wishes, simply because you and a very vocal, like-minded group don't think it's fair to ask you to earn them or buy them.
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Bruh, investing and flipping do require "work" and were a part of the overall package of the game. You're right about it being their choice to limit to 20 cards, but making the change without telling anyone is baloney and you know it. Additionally, it's hard to say there's any justification for letting bots control the market to limit flipping. The users unleashing bots are without a doubt selling the stubs they make on the secondary market and that's not just bad for people that like to flip cards, it's revenue lost for SDS on stubs. Communication really shouldn't be that hard and they need to do better...
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@The_Joneser_PSN they had provided four means. And they took one away.
Everything that was done, was done within a system that SDS designed and ran with for years. There was nothing shady, or lazy, or unethical about it. It was simply a way to play the game that was in front of us.
I absolutely guarantee that if I went through your post history, and that of anyone else celebrating the win, I wouldn’t find a single mention of “investing is ruining the game” anywhere. Nobody praising the move was asking for it.
It has nothing to do with not wanting to do the work. It has to do with taking away the way thousands of people played the game THEY DESIGNED.
You’re fine with it because you didn’t do it. That’s ok. But don’t sit there and pretend it’s what you wanted all along because “it was for lazy people.”
And by the way, your precious game is completely broken. Market bots, cheating scripts, unplayable servers… have fun 🤮
