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  • ref479ode_PSNR Offline
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    I do feel this is a bigger issue than in previous games and your outcome is quite common this year

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    @VortexNukezz_PSN said in User Input Doesn’t Matter:

    The games hitting engine is basically randomized for how swing timing and pci placement impact exit velo.

    If that's true, I'd have a much better record.

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    @x-814-x-MAFIA-x_PSN

    We've 100% won coop games we've had no business winning, and I feel for them because we've been on the other end as well.

    We take the W, but sometimes it cheapens it a bit when we know why we won

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    @x-814-x-MAFIA-x_PSN I have before... i think it was on reddit... I was told "never apologize for beating someone" lmao.

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    @The_Joneser_PSN

    80-99 is one of the 3 available options for filtering based on exit velo, not some random range I pulled out of nowhere to manipulate data.

    Spare me with the “you both had good offensive games” when it’s clearly lopsided in favour one way, and not in the way of the player with objectively better user input.

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  • PAinPA_PSNP Offline
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    13 BIP at 100+ EV , 7 perfect hits in 1 game. That's a 3-5 game total for a lot of ppl vs the CPU, against all these outlier max break pitchers H2H....that could be 10 games give or take.
    So don't be offended when ppl don't accept that you're getting screwed when hitting 5-10 times better than they do

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    @VortexNukezz_PSN the title does not reflect the OP imo … To me it looks like you guys had a good offensive game. The opponent was somewhat luckier and won the game … in other words: it could have gone the other way. But baseball is not the summation of who had more hits over a specific EV …
    To get back to my initial sentence. Your input mattered … a lot … otherwise you would not have had these many HR on EV over 100 mph …

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    @VortexNukezz, my apologies for attributing the 80-99 category to you, then. I'll acknowledge that error. You must have realized, however, how useless a metric that is for supporting your argument; there's a big difference between an 81 mph lollipop and a 99 mph drive that hits the seats. Who wouldn’t take one of the latter over 10 of the former?

    In that light, your use of it was a type of manipulation, though I'm not necessarily assigning a value judgement to that. I'm not saying it makes you a lesser person. It just makes your argument spurious.

    I guess what I'm saying is that your "objectively better" input is essentially tantamount to counting hits, because in that regard you were better.

    I don't know why people are so obsessed with the feedback in this game; who cares if you get a "perfect / perfect" if it's a line drive to the second basemen? I'd personally rather have a good contact at a 32 degree launch angle that results in a 99 mph fly ball to left. Even if I got a little lucky to get it. Might not be perfect, but it is a homerun most of the time.

    And maybe you are better than the guy that you played (from my perspective, you're both monsters), but the data you provided in no way supports your assertion.

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    I’m by no means a 1000 rated goon, but I’m a competitive WS player who can pretty much hang with anyone 900s rated and below. As much as I enjoy playing this game (diehard baseball fan), there’s nothing more frustrating than playing a game and just KNOWING it’s going to end in a loss no matter what. You can just tell after only a few outs at the plate.

    I’m talking about the game where your opponent is swinging at everything, and I mean EVERYTHING. They have no approach or eye at the plate. You could literally throw the ball 6 rows in the stands behind the home team dugout and they’re swinging at it. Yet here I am with an above average eye at the plate, not chasing, and any pitch I square up is a line out, deep fly to the warning track, or a perfect perfect out.

    Those are the games I’m talking about. After a few innings you just know a loss is certain no matter user input. Then the inevitable happens, it’s the 9th inning and your opponent gets on base because your diamond defense 2nd baseman boots a routine grounder, and the very next at bat is a walk off bloop hit on a cutter 4 feet off the plate. Is it RNG, built in code, or is it just a fluke? IDK, but those are the games that over the years have made me take online play a lot less serious. Those are the games I think about when Ohchev, YFK, Major Mangoes, etc go in depth on why this game can’t be played competitively for monetary gains.

    Im a 38 year old dad who works full time, so winning and losing in a video game isn’t that big of a deal anymore these days. With that said, someone pls tell me Im not the only one where this happens to them?

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    @Auburn2525_XBL said in User Input Doesn’t Matter:

    I’m by no means a 1000 rated goon, but I’m a competitive WS player who can pretty much hang with anyone 900s rated and below. As much as I enjoy playing this game (diehard baseball fan), there’s nothing more frustrating than playing a game and just KNOWING it’s going to end in a loss no matter what. You can just tell after only a few outs at the plate.

    I’m talking about the game where your opponent is swinging at everything, and I mean EVERYTHING. They have no approach or eye at the plate. You could literally throw the ball 6 rows in the stands behind the home team dugout and they’re swinging at it. Yet here I am with an above average eye at the plate, not chasing, and any pitch I square up is a line out, deep fly to the warning track, or a perfect perfect out.

    Those are the games I’m talking about. After a few innings you just know a loss is certain no matter user input. Then the inevitable happens, it’s the 9th inning and your opponent gets on base because your diamond defense 2nd baseman boots a routine grounder, and the very next at bat is a walk off bloop hit on a cutter 4 feet off the plate. Is it RNG, built in code, or is it just a fluke? IDK, but those are the games that over the years have made me take online play a lot less serious. Those are the games I think about when Ohchev, YFK, Major Mangoes, etc go in depth on why this game can’t be played competitively for monetary gains.

    Im a 38 year old dad who works full time, so winning and losing in a video game isn’t that big of a deal anymore these days. With that said, someone pls tell me Im not the only one where this happens to them?

    I always prioritize high fielding, high reaction, high speed, strong arm SS. I do feel this year I've gotten more 8th and 9th inning errors from my SS or a horrible snail pace animation than any other year. These are also like the routine 85moh ev off the bat to a diamond SS and they get the random high bounce animation that goes into the OF like the ball hit a huge rock

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