Another debut….
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Need a lot of prospects scanned and also many need updated scans face scans
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@theBlindRhino_NSW Could they not just have the player use the app to send them the face scan info?
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@Barfy-Bad-Gas_XBL Oh absolutely. Never thought that SDS could force this guy to do that. I stand corrected.
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@Barfy-Bad-Gas_XBL . Just an FYI not every player plays this game or even uses the app. There are other issues with the game that are a bigger problem than face scans
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I just don't understand why SDS doesn't simply hire a bunch of ruffians to track down these rookies and grab them off the streets or near dugouts and throw them in the back of unmarked vans and hold them down, against their will, and get these face scans so we can finally retire these threads.
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@theBlindRhino_NSW They don't need them there in person for a decent face scan. All they need is a HD photo. There's no excuse other than pure laziness why they slack on this.
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@RedstickRebel_PSN said in Another debut….:
@theBlindRhino_NSW They don't need them there in person for a decent face scan. All they need is a HD photo. There's no excuse other than pure laziness why they slack on this.
Okay so I don’t understand why SDS doesn’t break into their homes or dorm with and HD camera. Restrain the prospects with zip ties. Take a few pictures and scamper off back to San Diego and upload these scans. SDS is just so lazy. I’m sick of it.
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@theBlindRhino_NSW So there's something called Photo Day during Spring Training where every single player takes extremely high quality photos that are available for purchase on Getty images. In fact, those are the images used for a lot of player cards in DD. They have the photos already, they just don't care about the offline roster since there's no money to be made there.
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@RedstickRebel_PSN did all these guys attend MLB spring training?
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Dear lord, just stop, it’s not about taking the time to get face scans or whatever, it’s about licensing. You want it done sooner, pick up your phone and call the agents of the players and work out a deal to pay them for their likeness. The players want protections and confidence that it doesn’t devalue their brand. Have a drink, smoke a blunt, go jerkoff, do whatever you typically do to relax and realize there’s more to this than your feeble little mind can comprehend.
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And the hits just keep on coming, don't they?
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@theBlindRhino_NSW Yes, you can see their cards in Diamond Dynasty. They have the pics of them.
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@SavageSteve_MLBTS If that were true, then cards with their pics on them wouldn't be allowed in Diamond Dynasty.
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You don’t understand licensing, there are two different types of player likeness licensing
MLBPA Licensing
Once a player is part of the 40 man roster, they fall under MLBPA (MLB Union, not the MiLB Union). Under this agreement, SDS can use the player’s name, stats, jersey, and photo. It’s why newer players or those recently called up can have Diamond Dynasty cards with real names, official headshots, and accurate uniforms and ratingsBUT — this license does not include the rights to the player’s 3D likeness (face scan or custom head model).
This is a very important distinction to players, most of the MLB players have already given this up under their collective bargaining agreements and are fine with SDS using the models. Newer player weren’t part of those negotiations and retain those rights for themselves. Some have no issue while others are more restrictive.
To model a player’s actual 3D face, San Diego Studio (SDS) needs the following:
• The player to sit for a face scan
• The player to sign off on image and likeness use beyond the MLBPA licenseDo a little research before making assumptions. There’s a plethora of available information in a variety of different avenues. Use that brain of yours and make it a little less smooth.
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@SavageSteve_MLBTS It makes no sense for their actual picture and name to be displayed in Diamond Dynasty while their likeness can't be used in the offline version of the game.
But, I'm not a stubborn [censored], so lets say you're correct.
The fact is, I've given SDS $100+ every year for 6 years now. I am a customer. That gives me the right to express any complaints I have about the game.
And right now, my one complaint is Cam Smith isn't in the game. He's been on the 40 day roster since the first game of the season. I know his personality well enough to know he's not putting up a fight to stay out of the game. So yes, if you're right, they're just taking their sweet time to get approval or whatever they need from him.
I would also say it's a pathetic display of their graphic designing abilities with their lack of options to be able to make a player look how they look in the CAP/Edit A Player options. I've literally played PS2 games with more capabilities in that department.
Don't be so defensive for SDS. They're not going to reward you with free stubs for white knighting on their behalf.
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Lol, don’t even know what that means. Typical snowflake, can’t accept they’re wrong, tried to pretend they can, but in the end still has to blame someone else for their lack of intelligence.
Keep on keeping on, eventually Darwinism will claim its next victim.
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@SavageSteve_MLBTS said in Another debut….:
MLBPA Licensing
Once a player is part of the 40 man roster, they fall under MLBPA (MLB Union, not the MiLB Union). Under this agreement, SDS can use the player’s name, stats, jersey, and photo. It’s why newer players or those recently called up can have Diamond Dynasty cards with real names, official headshots, and accurate uniforms and ratingsBUT — this license does not include the rights to the player’s 3D likeness (face scan or custom head model).
Actually, yes it does.
Understanding MLBPA Licensing and Likeness Rights
Main takeaway: Every active Major League Baseball player assigns the Major League Baseball Players Association (MLBPA) the exclusive worldwide right to license or sublicense their name, image and likeness in any commercial setting where three or more active players are featured. MLBPA exercises those rights through its for-profit subsidiary MLB Players, Inc. (MLBPI) and, globally, through the joint-venture agency OneTeam Partners. Brands that want to use players collectively must secure an MLBPA/MLBPI license—and, if club logos appear, a separate license from MLB Properties as well.
This is why a much smaller game like Out Of The Park baseball can include cards with the actual pictures for all of the current players. No way they got everyone to sign off.
Getting individual likeness rights is only needed for players no longer in the MLBPA
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@SavageSteve_MLBTS Lol all that arrogance and insulting only for Dolenz to prove you wrong anyway.
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You actually just proved my point. The section you’re quoting only applies to group licensing—meaning when three or more players are featured collectively, like on a poster, baseball card set, or in a general-purpose video game roster. That’s what the MLBPA handles.
But when it comes to an individual’s detailed likeness—especially in a biometric or realistic form, like a 3D face scan—that’s a whole different legal category. The individual player retains those rights.
Here’s a simple test for your theory: if SDS already had full likeness rights for every player, why do they need to negotiate a separate agreement every year with the cover athlete? Answer: Because that requires the player’s personal consent. The group license doesn’t cover solo commercial use, endorsement, or the kind of high-fidelity scan work needed for that role.
So again—yes, SDS can use a player’s name, stats, and even their photo in Diamond Dynasty through the MLBPA. But the 3D face scan? That’s not automatically part of the group deal. If the player hasn’t been scanned—or hasn’t signed off—SDS legally can’t use their actual likeness in that format.
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You really should read a book or two or a dozen, he’s cherry-picking verbiage that doesn’t fit the actual argument over 3D imaging likeness.
FYI, here’s the rest of the statement MLBPA makes in regards to what @Dolenz_PSN quoted, notice he intentionally cherry picked his quote:
MLBPA’s rights include instances, e.g., where the publicity rights of 3 or more active MLB players are featured on a single product (for example, a single poster featuring three or more players) or where 3 or more players are featured on individual products within a product line or brand (for example, three separate posters, each of which featuring the publicity rights of only one player, offered by a company in a given year). MLBPA’s rights also include promotional uses in which 3 or more players are used by third party to promote a brand, product line or services, including in connection with corporate sponsorship, advertising, promotional materials, sweepstakes, contests, premiums, events or other programs.
