Enough with the CPU pitching
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@VioletNine9_XBL said in Enough with the CPU pitching:
This game has a massive issue with CPU pitchers not throwing strikes but SDS has been ignoring us for 4 years now. I don’t know what happened after 21 but they’ve slowly made the gameplay worse every year.
It does feel pointless to complain anymore if anything they’ve doubled down especially when they forced competitive in offline play which some may have forgotten about
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@Ledfoot_19_PSN said in Enough with the CPU pitching:
It's beyond stupid and makes grinding impossible. Decided to count this morning. Here's my 1st inning.
1st batter: 4 straight balls way out of the zone. Walk
2nd batter 4 straight balls way out of the zone. Walk
3rd batter 3 straight balls way out of the zone (11 straight balls to start the game) 1 pitch right down the middle, Perfect/Perfect.....amazing diving catch in the gap. Out
4th batter 2 straight balls, 1 pitch in the zone, Perfect/Perfect....82 EV grounder to short, double play.
14 balls
2 strikes
2 Perfect/Perfect
3 outsThat's every inning, every game along with 30 on the gray and dotted corner pitches.
I'm starting to wonder if the new ambush nonsense they added plays a roll in how they tuned the pitching this year because I've never seen it this ridiculous, boring, unrealistic, and stupid.
Thank you, this is exactly how I feel. Glad to not be the only one, it's just not fun this year.
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Looking at the game history, I don't believe any of the original posters stats.
I play almost exclusively on veteran and have never noticed pitching as poorly as he describes, in fact it is the opposite, with every pitcher from commons to diamonds living on the edges and making very few mistake pitches.
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@Dolenz_PSN I kind of wish I could see some of that pitching the OP described. It's going to take all year to get those 300 walks for that My Legacy program!
Honestly, I started to log my PAs in a MS on veteran. So far, through 6 games, it's 42.2% in the heart of the plate, 29.9% border pitches (could be ball or strike, but on the line in the games' graphic), and 27.8% waste pitches.
When playing the game, it does seem like a whole lot more "dots and balls", but when looking at my PAs at the end of the game, I have gotten plenty in the heart of the plate.
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While I don't think I really believe this. I play pretty exclusive on veteran and never have seen pitching this bad. In fact I see exactly the opposite pitchers nailing the edges way too often.
You had one game against the Rockies today.
- You walked 3 times all game once each in the 1st, 4th and 6th. So the two leadoff batters walking on 8 straight pitches appears to be an exaggeration.
- You cranked out 26 runs on 29 hits
- You homered 12 times.
- You were 8 for 8 on Perfect/Perfect swings including 4 homers.
@dap1234567890_PSN said in Enough with the CPU pitching:
@Dolenz_PSN I kind of wish I could see some of that pitching the OP described. It's going to take all year to get those 300 walks for that My Legacy program!
Honestly, I started to log my PAs in a MS on veteran. So far, through 6 games, it's 42.2% in the heart of the plate, 29.9% border pitches (could be ball or strike, but on the line in the games' graphic), and 27.8% waste pitches.
When playing the game, it does seem like a whole lot more "dots and balls", but when looking at my PAs at the end of the game, I have gotten plenty in the heart of the plate.
What do you define heart of the plate? To me it would mean a pitch I would not need to move the PCI at all. I get plenty that are slight above or below that area, unfortunately resulting in a lot of weak flyouts and ground ball outs.
Of course It could just be me, but I am basically batting the same style of have for 5-10 years now.
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@TripleH-4481_PSN And can we talk about the CPU fielding? It's like they are all diamond fielders. The number of diving catches and double plays/catches is absolutely ludicrous.
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@RealMessiah_XBL said in Enough with the CPU pitching:
@TripleH-4481_PSN And can we talk about the CPU fielding? It's like they are all diamond fielders. The number of diving catches and double plays/catches is absolutely ludicrous.
This game loves the double play, always has. My favorite is the CPU outfielder coming from off screen to make a diving catch in foul ground.... or the moon walk to catch a ball at the wall
Sometimes you just have to laugh at it but mostly it's just beyond frustrating.
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@Dolenz_PSN said in Enough with the CPU pitching:
Looking at the game history, I don't believe any of the original posters stats.
I play almost exclusively on veteran and have never noticed pitching as poorly as he describes, in fact it is the opposite, with every pitcher from commons to diamonds living on the edges and making very few mistake pitches.
same … Yes, I had 4 straight balls … very rarely tho … but „EVERY TIME“ is just not true. Why does this kind of behaviour happen so often in here??
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@YOSHI24_XBL said in Enough with the CPU pitching:
@Dolenz_PSN said in Enough with the CPU pitching:
Looking at the game history, I don't believe any of the original posters stats.
I play almost exclusively on veteran and have never noticed pitching as poorly as he describes, in fact it is the opposite, with every pitcher from commons to diamonds living on the edges and making very few mistake pitches.
same … Yes, I had 4 straight balls … very rarely tho … but „EVERY TIME“ is just not true. Why does this kind of behaviour happen so often in here??
I have no idea, I don't think people realize that when they say this stuff we can go check their game log.
In that game against Colorado. He only walked three times, racked up 26 runs on 29 hits, and was 8 for 8 with 4 home runs on his perfect/perfect swings.
I can only assume he wanted 36 runs.
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Agree with your take that timing feels very off this year. Coupled with how brutal CPU pitching has become the game just isn’t fun or rewarding anymore.
Like you I used to love this game but now I feel like I play it more out of habit and not wanting to give it up because I feel deep down if I do I won’t ever come back. All good things come to an end I guess.
On a positive note go Tigers.
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Oh I mentioned that too. I said on Rookie the CPU hits like rookie but pitches and fields like all star or above. Dotting and nibbling off the black and making diving plays with bronze and common players. It’s a joke.
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@Dolenz_PSN said in Enough with the CPU pitching:
I have no idea, I don't think people realize that when they say this stuff we can go check their game log.
Everything is fine … feedback is feedback … My only problem is: reading „every time“ makes posts like this implausible. So it takes away from the feedback-element (which is sad). Other than that: I oppose the feedback. The game is kind of a sim and balls/walks are part of the game. 10+ runs are evidence of balls not being a problem
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My remedy for this has been playing on allstar. I won’t claim that I’ve had this level of issue with pitching but I do notice a difference on rookie and veteran. My frustration comes from moments and diamond quest where I mostly cannot control the diffaculty. Having said that , I think I’ve played a few conquest games so far this season… game just didn’t do it for me this year
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I’ve heard this before about playing on all star to remedy the shortcomings of rookie and veteran. While I don’t disagree it dies say something about the game being broken on lower difficulties. Bottom line it shouldn’t be this way and SDS doesn’t want to doesn’t know how to fix it.
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@dap1234567890_PSN said in Enough with the CPU pitching:
It's going to take all year to get those 300 walks for that My Legacy program!
In all honesty I've had more patience at the plate this year than ever before and I'm walking at least twice a game, even on AS and up. It's still a slog.
@Dolenz_PSN said in Enough with the CPU pitching:
every pitcher from commons to diamonds living on the edges and making very few mistake pitches.
This has been my experience too, fairly annoying because it makes your patience and good eye your weakness.
@RealMessiah_XBL said in Enough with the CPU pitching:
And can we talk about the CPU fielding? It's like they are all diamond fielders. The number of diving catches and double plays/catches is absolutely ludicrous.
I want the fielders to play to their attributes...I'm tired of watching Schwarber chase down gappers sinking faster than an Amber Heard deuce
@urbanphilosophy_XBL said in Enough with the CPU pitching:
My remedy for this has been playing on allstar. I won’t claim that I’ve had this level of issue with pitching but I do notice a difference on rookie and veteran.
I've switched from Vet to AS (that's where I hover in ranked), and I still mostly see the same stuff..miss on 3 straight, dot the next two...then it's either the full-movement slider/sweeper/curve that barely clips the upper edge of the zone, or a straight up down and away dot that clips a whisker of the zone called for a strike...either of which I take because it looks like a ball all the way in.
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This year, i've found you get 1 pitch most at bats if you're lucky you get 2 that are meatballs. Otherwise its ball or a dot. Doesnt matter what skill you play at. However, and its probably i'm used to the speed i play better vs the CPU on all-star and above.
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@Dolenz_PSN To me the "heart of the plate" would be that middle-middle box. Since I am grouping all the pitches into three categories, I have loosely expanded that term into anything that is clearly a strike and not a borderline strike/ball (basically from the middle of the plate towards the middle of the surrounding boxes) for this pitch tracking project I am doing.
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@Sarge1387_PSN Over the past couple days I have been grinding out some steals (one game I got 63 steals, ridiculous!), I have been intentionally more patient and waiting for a good pitch when less than two strikes. This has improved the number of walks I get. I am getting at least one walk per game and I had one game with four walks. However, when I am grinding for program missions, I am not as patient and won't get a walk in most games. I will get the walks done eventually (I think I am already at 74) but it will probably be the second to last My Legacy programs to be finished (just before that IP program). Patience is definitely key to getting the walks!
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I play exclusively Rookie and even I'm not seeing anything close to as bad as what OP describes. Usually every at bat starts with 2 way-outside balls followed by a very hittable pitch. The very odd time I may get to a 3-0 count. For the entire year I have 27 walks compared to 3,251 hits and 879 home runs. I'm definitely on the less patient side and prone to chasing bad pitches (I find it boring to have to wait 5-6 pitches every at bat for "my pitch") but I'd have way more walks than 27 if what OP said was true. My Veteran experience in Moments is way more strikes just inside the zone and balls that are barely outside.
Rookie feels like it tests your ability to spot bad pitches vs. meatballs.
Veteran feels like it tests your ability to move the PCI to the outside edge of the zone.
