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Request to Return Long Term Investing via Back Orders

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    @LHUBison58_XBL I have done both for years, so no worries there!

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    @mietha_PSN I am slightly confused on this argument, admittedly. There is still speculation at hand. There was an incident with Lance Lynn I don't know how many years back where I had this happen. He seemed like a sure thing, orders filled, he didn't go and I don't think he did all year. That is a risk. I will grant you that it's a small risk, but it is a risk nonetheless.

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    @YOSHI24_XBL This has been a thing for years at this point and I've never seen back orders be a sole source of market inflation. Have you? I am asking honestly here, because usually I see that associated with stub sales or, yes, regular investments, but not with back orders that trickle in over weeks or even months. If there were hard evidence on that, I could go with you and retract my request, but I've not seen evidence of that personally.

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    @ShDynasty1227_XBL That is not a risk. You just cancel the orders. if the player doesn't go up. This method of making stubs had major draw backs. It was time consuming and relied on the stupidity of others. I find it is faster to just flip diamond equipment once my stub balance is over a million. Most dedicated NMS already have completed the Live Series so it wasn't the only method. The only losers here were SDS, who are well within their right to change this, and people who don't like math or reading...or proof reading to make sure auto correct doesn't alter what they intend to say thus saying things that don't make sense.

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    @theBlindRhino_PSN you're right that there are a ton of ways. I personally use a lot of them too, so no worries.

    I've already suggested a way that prevents people who make that mistake from losing out, so that is a moot point.

    I would argue also that this change would mean that SDS doesn't lose out, as they retain good will among their NMS userbase who used this method over the years while also fixing the problem it caused.

    It would be more work, but I believe it would be worth it so no one has to lose out.

    Oh and on the risk, I've seen buy orders dry up fast enough that it's easy to miss the window to cancel. But you are right that it is pretty low risk.

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    @ShDynasty1227_XBL I just think it is important to cater life to those unwilling or unable to think for themselves.

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    @theBlindRhino_PSN I'm afraid I don't understand what you're saying.

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    What they could do is just gray out the sell button unless they are getting back quick sell value or greater after market tax.

    This move seems more player friendly than that as now players buy orders cant get permanently tied up

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    It is pretty simple. When you list an order it tells you right on the screen what you will get after tax. If you care about stubs sell for the highest after tax amount. QS has no tax. If quick sell is 500 and the sell now price is lower than 556 then you want to QS. If the sell now price is higher...than go list it on the market because the buy now amount will be higher and therefore you will make more profit. If you are an impulsive, rash, or thoughtless person just keep mashing buttons until you get to the next screen.

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    @theBlindRhino_PSN Why? Does this help anything?

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    @LHUBison58_XBL Does what help anything?

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    @theBlindRhino_PSN Calling me a loser. It doesn’t add anything to the discourse in this thread.

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    @LHUBison58_XBL said in Request to Return Long Term Investing via Back Orders:

    @theBlindRhino_PSN Calling me a loser. It doesn’t add anything to the discourse in this thread.

    Where did I call you that?

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    This is one of the silliest things anyone could argue about.

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    @theBlindRhino_PSN said in Request to Return Long Term Investing via Back Orders:

    @ShDynasty1227_XBL The only losers here were SDS, who are well within their right to change this, and people who don't like math or reading...or proof reading to make sure auto correct doesn't alter what they intend to say thus saying things that don't make sense.

    What purpose did that serve? I corrected it as soon as I saw it. I’m sure lots of people don’t proof read their board posts.

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    @LHUBison58_XBL said in Request to Return Long Term Investing via Back Orders:

    @theBlindRhino_PSN said in Request to Return Long Term Investing via Back Orders:

    @ShDynasty1227_XBL The only losers here were SDS, who are well within their right to change this, and people who don't like math or reading...or proof reading to make sure auto correct doesn't alter what they intend to say thus saying things that don't make sense.

    What purpose did that serve? I corrected it as soon as I saw it. I’m sure lots of people don’t proof read their board posts.

    Wait you thought that this was directed at you? I apologize. I can see now why you thought that but I was talking about someone else that isn't you. I don't know you but you seem like a winner. Not a loser.

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    I don’t need an apology, but accept it, I just have usually found this board to be rather civil, unlike many places in the internet. I like being able to read meaningful conversations on a game I find to be integral to unwinding each day. Maybe I over thought this, for that I apologize.

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    @LHUBison58_XBL In hindsight I can certainly see how you felt that. I wasn't even giving it much thought so I was truly at a loss at the time. Now I see it clear as day.

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    @SchnauzerFace_MLBTS to be fair, that's why I've been trying really hard to be respectful about it, speak my piece and try to come to fair compromises that help both parties. Sorry it's come across as an argument. I felt as though I was being attacked pretty aggressively at first when I believe there is fair reason to retain back orders.

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    @ShDynasty1227_XBL said in Request to Return Long Term Investing via Back Orders:

    @SchnauzerFace_MLBTS to be fair, that's why I've been trying really hard to be respectful about it, speak my piece and try to come to fair compromises that help both parties. Sorry it's come across as an argument. I felt as though I was being attacked pretty aggressively at first when I believe there is fair reason to retain back orders.

    I gotcha. But what I really meant was that it’s a silly thing to even have an opinion on. Of all the things I could spend my limited, precious time on this earth thinking about, this is basically at the very, very bottom of the list.

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