Please ELIMINATE WILD CARDS/EILIGIBILITY
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@TheGoaler In the stream, SDS said something like „not all spots are available from the get go. You got to earn those spots“ …People here are very confident, that this means that you unlock those spots via the xp reward path … For example: You start with 1 spot and slowly earn more over the next weeks
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@YOSHI24 That’s fine & well but you keep saying “I just don’t get it” whenever someone says they don’t like not being able to use cards year round. So I’m explaining it as well as I can. Alot of people who have been playing The Show for a long time already know what their lineup is going to be end game. So when I have a P5 of players that I want to keep using all year. Well - I want to be able to keep using them. I have nothing against people that want to constantly shake up their team - Have at it. But I should be allowed to play how I want to as well.
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@TheGoaler nope they are not
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@Bearsfan217 said in Please ELIMINATE WILD CARDS/EILIGIBILITY:
@TheGoaler nope they are not
That's just ridiculous.
Earn? What is this, the military, where we have to earn our stripes? The Boy Scouts, where i have to earn my merit badges?
Some analytical nerd came up with this?
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@IrishFist412 said in Please ELIMINATE WILD CARDS/EILIGIBILITY:
@YOSHI24 That’s fine & well but you keep saying “I just don’t get it” whenever someone says they don’t like not being able to use cards year round. So I’m explaining it as well as I can. Alot of people who have been playing The Show for a long time already know what their lineup is going to be end game. So when I have a P5 of players that I want to keep using all year. Well - I want to be able to keep using them. I have nothing against people that want to constantly shake up their team - Have at it. But I should be allowed to play how I want to as well.
I have that guy blocked , but to add on to what ya saying, only cards i want to play with are my Chicago Cubs. So all my S1 Cubbies which are quite a few will be ineligible online. Completely ruins my theme team for online ranked and events etc. Seasons/sets is such a stupid idea. Exactly the reason i dumped this game last year.
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@TheGoaler It'll be fine. I'm sure SDS will place them in favorable spots in the XP path. With an arbitrary cap. And with slashed XP from gameplay. And...come to think of it, yeah, it's probably going to suck.
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@Skarmaen said in Please ELIMINATE WILD CARDS/EILIGIBILITY:
@TheGoaler It'll be fine. I'm sure SDS will place them in favorable spots in the XP path. With an arbitrary cap. And with slashed XP from gameplay. And...come to think of it, yeah, it's probably going to suck.
Yeah, those troubling 'paths.'
I just got to Trevor Story, and although vs. the cpu on Veteran, he hit 3hrs his first game! Always rocked with his cards. I may make him a WC! -
I didn't play last year. Are these card restrictions for S2 only on Ranked? Or does it mean I can't use them vs CPU?
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@nflman2033 said in Please ELIMINATE WILD CARDS/EILIGIBILITY:
I didn't play last year. Are these card restrictions for S2 only on Ranked? Or does it mean I can't use them vs CPU?
Pretty sure it's online only so Ranked, BR, and Events
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@IrishFist412 funny, your game history says otherwise, I don't know why you people act like we can't look anything up. Keep lying though if it makes you feel better
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@xxfrystealerxx said in Please ELIMINATE WILD CARDS/EILIGIBILITY:
@nflman2033 said in Please ELIMINATE WILD CARDS/EILIGIBILITY:
I didn't play last year. Are these card restrictions for S2 only on Ranked? Or does it mean I can't use them vs CPU?
Pretty sure it's online only so Ranked, BR, and Events
Thanks, I had figured that had to be the case.
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And also probably for the new TA conquest map for season 2 and probably TA mini seasons that you can't use season 1 cards
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@IrishFist412 Thanks again … So, P5s, cards you like…. obviously in ranked … That is what I meant with some special things, like theme teams.
The thing I do not get is probably guys that are using ranked for competitive purposes. I don‘t see anybody using (say) a 94 in MLBTS21 when we have autumn …
I actually come to the conclusion that the complaints are only from theme team / p5-people … That is legit, but I don‘t thing that this is a majority (which does not make the opinions less viable …).
But maybe @Catman9186_PSN has an additional view
It may disappoint some, but I do not see the change happening this year. That would ruin the new concept for 24.
last on this: 21 was the best concept… longer power creep, (no restrictions … for you guys
), better collection system … SDS went another route.Maybe 25 will have another change. As it stands now my best advice for 25 for you guys would be to hold out on preordering/buying until you know and continue giving feedback.
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@xxfrystealerxx Last year was only ranked. Events always have restrictions and probably will have season-restrictions (they did not always have one). BR did not have any restrictions and SDS did not say it will have this year
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@TheGoaler said in Please ELIMINATE WILD CARDS/EILIGIBILITY:
What do you guys mean by earn WC spots?
They're not automatically available?Here is the quote from SDS on the live stream
"yes obviously not in season 1 but every season after season 1 there will be wild cards and to make things even better this year we'll have up to four wild card slots in subsequent Seasons after you know after season one four wild cards yes but we will want to say that the number of wild cards can vary from season to season so be on the lookout on how you can earn and unlock those wild card slots".
Notice that we are not guaranteed 4 every season and the fact that they said you had to unlock them.
It will be interesting to see how they do this. If they bury them deep enough in the XP path they become far less relevant.
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@YOSHI24 said in Please ELIMINATE WILD CARDS/EILIGIBILITY:
I actually come to the conclusion that the complaints are only from
The complaints are coming from the impact of having something taken away from you against your control.
Many gaming companies feel to consider psychological impacts. Things look fine on paper but in practice it causes people to feel upset, even if it may be irrational. So yes, you can point out that people would cycle in new cards anyway but people dont like not being able to choose when they do it.The exp track this year is a perfect example of this. On paper it was fine, and people seem to be mostly on pace now to get there. But in practice it pissed people off because they had an irrational reaction to not getting xp when capped, even though the xp track is just one of many ways to progress. But it shouldnt have been an unexpected reaction, thats just how gamers are.
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@Dolenz said in Please ELIMINATE WILD CARDS/EILIGIBILITY:
It will be interesting to see how they do this. If they bury them deep enough in the XP path they become far less relevant.
Prediction: people will complain loudly about it
If they were smart they would have 2 at the start ant the other two unlocked by the time TA 2 part 2 comes out but I highly doubt its that fast
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@Teak2112 said in Please ELIMINATE WILD CARDS/EILIGIBILITY:
@YOSHI24 said in Please ELIMINATE WILD CARDS/EILIGIBILITY:
I actually come to the conclusion that the complaints are only from
The complaints are coming from the impact of having something taken away from you against your control.
Many gaming companies feel to consider psychological impacts. Things look fine on paper but in practice it causes people to feel upset, even if it may be irrational. So yes, you can point out that people would cycle in new cards anyway but people dont like not being able to choose when they do it.The exp track this year is a perfect example of this. On paper it was fine, and people seem to be mostly on pace now to get there. But in practice it pissed people off because they had an irrational reaction to not getting xp when capped, even though the xp track is just one of many ways to progress. But it shouldnt have been an unexpected reaction, thats just how gamers are.
This is me 100%…When I spend hundreds of hours grinding to earn & then grinding to P5 through everything from Ranked to Conquest, I admit I get attached to certain players. And when SDS takes away my ability to play with the card I EARNED and then forcing me to grind more just to earn the ability to use the card again…It does make me feel like an abused slave quite honestly.
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@YOSHI24 Every card game ie Yu-Gi-Oh, MTG, Pokemon etc does this. Why? Because it forces the player into buying the newer cards as the old ones run out. Standard rotations in magic have been milked to the ground and playerbase diminished. This kind of gameplay is aimed at ONE thing only, profits. I actually could find myself defending this IF the game didn't come out every year rendering EVERY cars you buy fu(k1ng useless. It's all digital and you don't get anything back from it. At least with card games you KEEP what you buy.
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@Teak2112 if they were smart they wouldn't play the game in the first place. It's a cash grab. Nothing more. Look into the history of card games that have seasons. It's for profit. Not for the gamer.
