José Fernandez
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@THE_Tomdawg69er said in José Fernandez:
@Nanthrax_1 said in José Fernandez:
Every couple weeks we get a thread about him...
Do people not know how he died and how by his actions he killed 2 of his friends in the process? This is equivalent to drinking and driving and killing 2 people, only it was coke.
He will never be in this game. End of storyDid anyone ever teach you it’s bad karma to speak ill of the dead?
So by your logic, Hitler was a standup guy because it would be rude / bad karma to say otherwise? Obviously that's an extreme example and Fernandez was nowhere near that level of scumbaggery, but it shows your view is flawed. What you do in life affects how people view you after death. Evidence shows Fernandez was coked up and drunk while driving his boat over 60+ mph and he got people killed. The guy was no saint, and he shouldn't be viewed as one.
That's not even speaking ill of the guy. Those are facts. He was a solid pitcher, but he does not belong in the game and SDS should not go out of their way to acquire his rights just so kids can play with one more OP card in a video game.
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He is in the game? I promise you my daily login and all the packs I open has a 50 something Jose Fernandez I wouldnt recommend using him
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@Glue_Sniffer4 said in José Fernandez:
Wish we could get a Jose Fernandez card at some point this year. Been missing having him in the rotation.
Me too, but instead he got drunk, coked up, then wreckless drove a speed boat at night at stupid speeds too close to shore and killed himself and murdered 2 other people.
No rising 3 days later for him... He can rot.
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@JEEZY-E said in José Fernandez:
I sure hope everyone in here is a saint
Well I haven't murdered anyone... So I got that going for me.
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You guys are incredible. So a 23 year old, I won’t say kid, but he ain’t far off, does something extremely stupid involving drugs/alcohol. Shocking. He must be the worst person ever. I’m sure the other people on the boat with him were all sober and were forced to ride with him. I say he deserved it! Good riddance! People are asking for a card in a video game, not a statue of him at your local courthouse.
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I'm pretty sure a lot of people in the forum has driven drunk before...even if you think you were sober. I can admit I've done it with people in the car (I felt fine driving but doesn't mean I was under .07).
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Nanthrax_1... you gotta relax. They were all partying. They were all grown men. It’s unfortunate. I still want his slider in my rotation. He created him as my CAP player.
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It’s been a while, but I still feel like it’s too soon. You can’t deny that it’s risky to put him, or any player that passed somewhat recently, regardless of how, is risky. Someone somewhere will be offended, so why open that door. I get in some circumstances it could be “paying homage”, but then it just becomes, “well what about so-and-so, why isn’t he in the game?”
Can of worms, you know?
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@XiX_85 said in José Fernandez:
Nanthrax_1... you gotta relax. They were all partying. They were all grown men. It’s unfortunate. I still want his slider in my rotation. He created him as my CAP player.
I'm relaxed. I just don't think he should be in this game. Ya, his buddies decided to go on that boat with him to attempt to calm him down because he was angry and reeling. But at the end of the day, he was hammered, coked out and decided to go over 65mph on water. That is stupid fast on water by the way.. he wasn't partying. He was furious and careless. Just know the facts.
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@THE_Tomdawg69er said in José Fernandez:
@Nanthrax_1 said in José Fernandez:
Every couple weeks we get a thread about him...
Do people not know how he died and how by his actions he killed 2 of his friends in the process? This is equivalent to drinking and driving and killing 2 people, only it was coke.
He will never be in this game. End of storyDid anyone ever teach you it’s bad karma to speak ill of the dead?
So I shouldn't speak facts about Ted Bundy?
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@CincyRedlegs3219 said in José Fernandez:
You guys are incredible. So a 23 year old, I won’t say kid, but he ain’t far off, does something extremely stupid involving drugs/alcohol. Shocking. He must be the worst person ever. I’m sure the other people on the boat with him were all sober and were forced to ride with him. I say he deserved it! Good riddance! People are asking for a card in a video game, not a statue of him at your local courthouse.
You’re right. It’s just a card in a video game, so why not bring back that breakout Felipe Vazquez from last year. If murdering people (even if unintentional) isn’t enough to keep a guy out of the game, we can’t let a little thing like statutory rape get in the way of having a good pitcher, right?
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DO A LINE FOR JOSE
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this subject always rubs people the wrong way, it's unfortunate but he can't be in the game, unfortunately for that same reason(though different circumstances) we won't see players like Bon...I mean Reggie Stocker, Clemens, Sosa.
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First they would need his rights. 2nd because he passed I believe it's the family that would make that decision if SDS or whomever approached them.
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They were ALL partying bro.
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Just my 2 cents on the Fernandez situation. Obviously he made a horrible mistake that ended up costing him his life and the lives of his 2 friends. Now, if you want to hold that against him and completely disregard all the positive things he did throughout his life, go ahead, that's up for you to decide.
He was an inspiration to so many and his story is incredible. He tried to defect from Cuba 3 times before his successful 4th attempt. That alone takes an insane amount of courage. On the boat ride, he jumped in the water and saved his mother, who had fallen overboard, from drowning. He was a joy to watch play the game of baseball. His genuine happiness and love for the game made him a fan favorite, even for a Phillies fan like myself. Those are the things I remember him by, and I'm sure many others do too.
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@PennStateFencer said in José Fernandez:
@THE_Tomdawg69er said in José Fernandez:
@Nanthrax_1 said in José Fernandez:
Every couple weeks we get a thread about him...
Do people not know how he died and how by his actions he killed 2 of his friends in the process? This is equivalent to drinking and driving and killing 2 people, only it was coke.
He will never be in this game. End of storyDid anyone ever teach you it’s bad karma to speak ill of the dead?
So by your logic, Hitler was a standup guy because it would be rude / bad karma to say otherwise? Obviously that's an extreme example and Fernandez was nowhere near that level of scumbaggery, but it shows your view is flawed. What you do in life affects how people view you after death. Evidence shows Fernandez was coked up and drunk while driving his boat over 60+ mph and he got people killed. The guy was no saint, and he shouldn't be viewed as one.
That's not even speaking ill of the guy. Those are facts. He was a solid pitcher, but he does not belong in the game and SDS should not go out of their way to acquire his rights just so kids can play with one more OP card in a video game.
You must be fun at parties
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@THE_Tomdawg69er said in José Fernandez:
@PennStateFencer said in José Fernandez:
@THE_Tomdawg69er said in José Fernandez:
@Nanthrax_1 said in José Fernandez:
Every couple weeks we get a thread about him...
Do people not know how he died and how by his actions he killed 2 of his friends in the process? This is equivalent to drinking and driving and killing 2 people, only it was coke.
He will never be in this game. End of storyDid anyone ever teach you it’s bad karma to speak ill of the dead?
So by your logic, Hitler was a standup guy because it would be rude / bad karma to say otherwise? Obviously that's an extreme example and Fernandez was nowhere near that level of scumbaggery, but it shows your view is flawed. What you do in life affects how people view you after death. Evidence shows Fernandez was coked up and drunk while driving his boat over 60+ mph and he got people killed. The guy was no saint, and he shouldn't be viewed as one.
That's not even speaking ill of the guy. Those are facts. He was a solid pitcher, but he does not belong in the game and SDS should not go out of their way to acquire his rights just so kids can play with one more OP card in a video game.
You must be fun at parties
You must not be invited to parties.
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@PennStateFencer said in José Fernandez:
@THE_Tomdawg69er said in José Fernandez:
@PennStateFencer said in José Fernandez:
@THE_Tomdawg69er said in José Fernandez:
@Nanthrax_1 said in José Fernandez:
Every couple weeks we get a thread about him...
Do people not know how he died and how by his actions he killed 2 of his friends in the process? This is equivalent to drinking and driving and killing 2 people, only it was coke.
He will never be in this game. End of storyDid anyone ever teach you it’s bad karma to speak ill of the dead?
So by your logic, Hitler was a standup guy because it would be rude / bad karma to say otherwise? Obviously that's an extreme example and Fernandez was nowhere near that level of scumbaggery, but it shows your view is flawed. What you do in life affects how people view you after death. Evidence shows Fernandez was coked up and drunk while driving his boat over 60+ mph and he got people killed. The guy was no saint, and he shouldn't be viewed as one.
That's not even speaking ill of the guy. Those are facts. He was a solid pitcher, but he does not belong in the game and SDS should not go out of their way to acquire his rights just so kids can play with one more OP card in a video game.
You must be fun at parties
You must not be invited to parties.
On par with speaking ill of the dead would be if you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything. Apparently your parents didn’t raise you very well.
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@THE_Tomdawg69er said in José Fernandez:
@PennStateFencer said in José Fernandez:
@THE_Tomdawg69er said in José Fernandez:
@PennStateFencer said in José Fernandez:
@THE_Tomdawg69er said in José Fernandez:
@Nanthrax_1 said in José Fernandez:
Every couple weeks we get a thread about him...
Do people not know how he died and how by his actions he killed 2 of his friends in the process? This is equivalent to drinking and driving and killing 2 people, only it was coke.
He will never be in this game. End of storyDid anyone ever teach you it’s bad karma to speak ill of the dead?
So by your logic, Hitler was a standup guy because it would be rude / bad karma to say otherwise? Obviously that's an extreme example and Fernandez was nowhere near that level of scumbaggery, but it shows your view is flawed. What you do in life affects how people view you after death. Evidence shows Fernandez was coked up and drunk while driving his boat over 60+ mph and he got people killed. The guy was no saint, and he shouldn't be viewed as one.
That's not even speaking ill of the guy. Those are facts. He was a solid pitcher, but he does not belong in the game and SDS should not go out of their way to acquire his rights just so kids can play with one more OP card in a video game.
You must be fun at parties
You must not be invited to parties.
On par with speaking ill of the dead would be if you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything. Apparently your parents didn’t raise you very well.
Apparently you're a walking contradiction
