Delayed double steals
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@Bisko SDS already gives you cheesers way too much leeway as it is. I suck as a hitter online, and I have never even thought about this "strategy" let alone complain that I can't pull it off.
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@RevCuddyer I got lucky once online and have done it semi regularly offline on the 2020 version. You need a combination of a slow batter, a ball barely out of range of the second baseman, and a right fielder with a strong throwing arm.
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have your runner on second steal, press R2, get him in a run down, then angle you thumbstick to send the runner from third and let the button mashing of a rundown proceed.
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So in real baseball, you can defend against this tactic...cheat your 2B or SS in front of the base to cut the throw and get the guy at home. You can't do that in the game so it would be a very bush league move to do this and would be heavily abused.
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@Bisko said in Delayed double steals:
@GixxerRyder750 or just know it's coming so don't throw to second, like they do in real baseball
Well then you're just giving up a free stolen base of second and will complain about that.
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Is it classed as cheesing if it’s vs the CPU?
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I don’t think anyone cares if you cheese the cpu, but it seems like a lot of work to score a runner from third.
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@Bisko I’m sure it can be done outside of online game play against another human. You just have to be quick to take control of the runner on third and press the button that pauses the runner in place on XBox (it’s R2 on PlayStation) then after the throw by the catcher you would take off for home.
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@Bisko And when was this ever used as a "strategy"? 1905? You keep saying you want to play a real game of baseball while using exploits that are not part of baseball. You can keep trying to justify it because it's just against the CPU, but we all know that it's NEVER just against the CPU.
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@darkblue1876 due to the MLB degrading into just power without any strategy not since probably the 90s, but it's still a legitimate strategy. And I don't play online, but if I did there is a simple way to not allow the run to score, just like they would do in real life. This is a rral strategy in baseball. Just because you're too young and naive of the game to not know that doesn't mean it's not.
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Like @darkblue1876_PSN said it isn’t really something done in today’s game. Why play for 1 run anyways? Just steal second and drive both runners in. If you try some fancy delay steal and get thrown out and give the CPU momentum just ask this guy about DDA. He can go on for days about that.
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Yeah, legit strategy or not, it comes off as an exploit because of all the terrible animations the defender can get locked into. There aren’t really any counters either.
I’ve given up changing my defense most of the time against bunt cheesers lately, because there are so many ways the game can go south on you, if you start trying to throw the ball around the infield.
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The thing about delayed steals, or any kind of involved baserunning is, you never know what is actually going to happen.
You can select one runner and sometimes the game just makes both runners go.
I just lost a game where I had the go ahead runs on, first and third, and the game made my runner at third break for home, when I selected the runner at first to go.
It’s kind of a [censored] shoot which controls are actually going to work at any given moment.
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@halfbutt said in Delayed double steals:
The thing about delayed steals, or any kind of involved baserunning is, you never know what is actually going to happen.
You can select one runner and sometimes the game just makes both runners go.
I just lost a game where I had the go ahead runs on, first and third, and the game made my runner at third break for home, when I selected the runner at first to go.
It’s kind of a [censored] shoot which controls are actually going to work at any given moment.
Not sure what console you use or how you have baserunning turned on and what options; but on the PS5 and the base running window turned on, that shows in the upper right corner, when you push on the left joystick, it will show either Steal All or Steal 2nd (when runners are on the corners).
Pushing straight up (12 o'clock) will show as Steal All. Pushing at an angle (1-2 o'clock) will show Steal 2nd.
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I’m still on PS4, unfortunately. It happens from time to time that I move the joystick to select “steal second” and “steal all” happens.
It may or may not be connected to playing away games. This last time, my opponent picked Yankee Stadium so lag may have been a factor.
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Ahh. I see.
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@halfbutt_PSN I look at the little arrow and when it’s highlighted blue while pointing towards the player on first I press the L2.
