Where's Mark Grace?
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As a Die-hard Cubs fan I don't know why we have 3 Sosa cards and have yet to see a Mark Grace or Ron Santo?? Only 1 Sandberg? At the same time Sosa was hitting bombs, while cheating the game, Mark Grace was getting more hits and doubles than anyone in the MLB for a decade! 3x All-star and multiple Gold Gloves, twice as many walks than k's throughout his 13 year career, not too mention the only Cub to hit for the cycle in the last 30 years and he can't even get a Captain card WHEN HE WAS THE CUBS CAPTAIN!!! Sammy, with his corked bats and juiced muscles still had to hit the balls which took tremendous skill, I get it, but he gets 3 cards while guys like Gracie and Santo get nothing? Come on y'all. Share the wealth with some of the teammates of these guys who were getting overlooked. Surely it can't be licensing because that other joke of a baseball game gave Gracie a shot. Come on SDS, show some love here to one of the 90's Cubs greats and most recent inductee into their Hall of Fame as well
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@draconis15_PSN said in Where's Mark Grace?:
As a Die-hard Cubs fan I don't know why we have 3 Sosa cards and have yet to see a Mark Grace or Ron Santo?? Only 1 Sandberg? At the same time Sosa was hitting bombs, while cheating the game, Mark Grace was getting more hits and doubles than anyone in the MLB for a decade! 3x All-star and multiple Gold Gloves, twice as many walks than k's throughout his 13 year career, not too mention the only Cub to hit for the cycle in the last 30 years and he can't even get a Captain card WHEN HE WAS THE CUBS CAPTAIN!!! Sammy, with his corked bats and juiced muscles still had to hit the balls which took tremendous skill, I get it, but he gets 3 cards while guys like Gracie and Santo get nothing? Come on y'all. Share the wealth with some of the teammates of these guys who were getting overlooked. Surely it can't be licensing because that other joke of a baseball game gave Gracie a shot. Come on SDS, show some love here to one of the 90's Cubs greats and most recent inductee into their Hall of Fame as well
SDS sadly dosn't have the rights to Mark Grace, I hear you on Ron Santo though, it would be a shame if he's already gone.
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Lol SMB4 has both Grace and Santo
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@HustlinOwl_MLBTS said in Where's Mark Grace?:
Lol SMB4 has both Grace and Santo
SDS needs to copy SMB4 in the legends department
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@jake98833_PSN said in Where's Mark Grace?:
@HustlinOwl_MLBTS said in Where's Mark Grace?:
Lol SMB4 has both Grace and Santo
SDS needs to copy SMB4 in the legends department
Nah, cause SMB4 is missing guys like Mantle, Gehrig, Musial, Maddux and the list goes on.
They also have a lot more marginal "legends". Do we really need the likes of Jim Sundberg or Chris Speier in The Show?
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@Dolenz_PSN said in Where's Mark Grace?:
@jake98833_PSN said in Where's Mark Grace?:
@HustlinOwl_MLBTS said in Where's Mark Grace?:
Lol SMB4 has both Grace and Santo
SDS needs to copy SMB4 in the legends department
Nah, cause SMB4 is missing guys like Mantle, Gehrig, Musial, Maddux and the list goes on.
They also have a lot more marginal "legends". Do we really need the likes of Jim Sundberg or Chris Speier in The Show?
Considering the show added Hairston Jr and Rob Dibble I really wouldn't notice a difference the more variety the better
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@jake98833_PSN said in Where's Mark Grace?:
@Dolenz_PSN said in Where's Mark Grace?:
@jake98833_PSN said in Where's Mark Grace?:
@HustlinOwl_MLBTS said in Where's Mark Grace?:
Lol SMB4 has both Grace and Santo
SDS needs to copy SMB4 in the legends department
Nah, cause SMB4 is missing guys like Mantle, Gehrig, Musial, Maddux and the list goes on.
They also have a lot more marginal "legends". Do we really need the likes of Jim Sundberg or Chris Speier in The Show?
Considering the show added Hairston Jr and Rob Dibble I really wouldn't notice a difference the more variety the better
True but I would not be willing to give up the Mantle, Musial, Gehrig, Maddux, Bob Gibson, or Griffey to get Gene Tenace.
Although SMB has Tom Herr which is a big + in this old Cardinal fan's book.
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Mark Grace would be a great addition. Nothing against Alfonso Soriano but I’d drop him like a hot potato for Grace. 1989 postseason Grace would be insane.
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@Dolenz_PSN said in Where's Mark Grace?:
@jake98833_PSN said in Where's Mark Grace?:
@Dolenz_PSN said in Where's Mark Grace?:
@jake98833_PSN said in Where's Mark Grace?:
@HustlinOwl_MLBTS said in Where's Mark Grace?:
Lol SMB4 has both Grace and Santo
SDS needs to copy SMB4 in the legends department
Nah, cause SMB4 is missing guys like Mantle, Gehrig, Musial, Maddux and the list goes on.
They also have a lot more marginal "legends". Do we really need the likes of Jim Sundberg or Chris Speier in The Show?
Considering the show added Hairston Jr and Rob Dibble I really wouldn't notice a difference the more variety the better
True but I would not be willing to give up the Mantle, Musial, Gehrig, Maddux, Bob Gibson, or Griffey to get Gene Tenace.
Although SMB has Tom Herr which is a big + in this old Cardinal fan's book.
They wouldn't have to especially with how much Microsoft is paying them annually to appear on game pass they are making serious $$$
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@fubar2k7_PSN said in Where's Mark Grace?:
Mark Grace would be a great addition. Nothing against Alfonso Soriano but I’d drop him like a hot potato for Grace. 1989 postseason Grace would be insane.
I have to agree with ya there! The man knew how to show up for the big game did he not? Even though I was heartbroken to see the Cubs take the NL East over my beloved Metropolitans in ‘89, I couldn’t stay too bummed as that Cubbies team was fo shizzle.
Dawson ripping bombs over the ‘Tru-Link’ fence onto Waveland, Jerome Walton and Dwight Smith each had captured lightning in a bottle, and of course there was Wild Thang….but Mark Grace was the leader and no doubt. I can think of several instances over the years (just off the top of my head!) where the opposing team’s 1B got all the press headed into an important matchup and within a couple of games it had become the Mark Grace show. Did the man ever even make an out in a LCS?
Yessir, I gotta agree with you 110% - you may even be charged with making an understatement there! I tell you one other thing about Grace that I’ll never forget…during the perfect game pitched by the Unit in 2004, Grace was in the booth doing the color commentary and he had the outcome sniffed out in like the 4th or 5th inning…he literally predicted it due to his incredible baseball IQ. I’m not blowing smoke either - it’s one of the games that I make sure and re-watch every single year (there are quite a few of those) and I’m literally begging anyone interested in seeing what it is I’m talking about to please, please watch that game.
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@BxnnyMxn__PSN said in Where's Mark Grace?:
@fubar2k7_PSN said in Where's Mark Grace?:
Mark Grace would be a great addition. Nothing against Alfonso Soriano but I’d drop him like a hot potato for Grace. 1989 postseason Grace would be insane.
I have to agree with ya there! The man knew how to show up for the big game did he not? Even though I was heartbroken to see the Cubs take the NL East over my beloved Metropolitans in ‘89, I couldn’t stay too bummed as that Cubbies team was fo shizzle.
Dawson ripping bombs over the ‘Tru-Link’ fence onto Waveland, Jerome Walton and Dwight Smith each had captured lightning in a bottle, and of course there was Wild Thang….but Mark Grace was the leader and no doubt. I can think of several instances over the years (just off the top of my head!) where the opposing team’s 1B got all the press headed into an important matchup and within a couple of games it had become the Mark Grace show. Did the man ever even make an out in a LCS?
Yessir, I gotta agree with you 110% - you may even be charged with making an understatement there! I tell you one other thing about Grace that I’ll never forget…during the perfect game pitched by the Unit in 2004, Grace was in the booth doing the color commentary and he had the outcome sniffed out in like the 4th or 5th inning…he literally predicted it due to his incredible baseball IQ. I’m not blowing smoke either - it’s one of the games that I make sure and re-watch every single year (there are quite a few of those) and I’m literally begging anyone interested in seeing what it is I’m talking about to please, please watch that game.
I’ll never forget that NLCS for what Grace and Will Clark did. Grace hit .647 and Clark hit .650, I was a huge fan of both guys but I’m the weird guy who even though I’m a Dodgers fan, Will Clark was my favorite player.
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@fubar2k7_PSN said in Where's Mark Grace?:
@BxnnyMxn__PSN said in Where's Mark Grace?:
@fubar2k7_PSN said in Where's Mark Grace?:
Mark Grace would be a great addition. Nothing against Alfonso Soriano but I’d drop him like a hot potato for Grace. 1989 postseason Grace would be insane.
I have to agree with ya there! The man knew how to show up for the big game did he not? Even though I was heartbroken to see the Cubs take the NL East over my beloved Metropolitans in ‘89, I couldn’t stay too bummed as that Cubbies team was fo shizzle.
Dawson ripping bombs over the ‘Tru-Link’ fence onto Waveland, Jerome Walton and Dwight Smith each had captured lightning in a bottle, and of course there was Wild Thang….but Mark Grace was the leader and no doubt. I can think of several instances over the years (just off the top of my head!) where the opposing team’s 1B got all the press headed into an important matchup and within a couple of games it had become the Mark Grace show. Did the man ever even make an out in a LCS?
Yessir, I gotta agree with you 110% - you may even be charged with making an understatement there! I tell you one other thing about Grace that I’ll never forget…during the perfect game pitched by the Unit in 2004, Grace was in the booth doing the color commentary and he had the outcome sniffed out in like the 4th or 5th inning…he literally predicted it due to his incredible baseball IQ. I’m not blowing smoke either - it’s one of the games that I make sure and re-watch every single year (there are quite a few of those) and I’m literally begging anyone interested in seeing what it is I’m talking about to please, please watch that game.
I’ll never forget that NLCS for what Grace and Will Clark did. Grace hit .647 and Clark hit .650, I was a huge fan of both guys but I’m the weird guy who even though I’m a Dodgers fan, Will Clark was my favorite player.
He truly had a beautiful swing. Lefties seem to have that going for them quite a bit. It sure was something watching those two go toe to toe like that
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@BxnnyMxn__PSN said in Where's Mark Grace?:
@fubar2k7_PSN said in Where's Mark Grace?:
@BxnnyMxn__PSN said in Where's Mark Grace?:
@fubar2k7_PSN said in Where's Mark Grace?:
Mark Grace would be a great addition. Nothing against Alfonso Soriano but I’d drop him like a hot potato for Grace. 1989 postseason Grace would be insane.
I have to agree with ya there! The man knew how to show up for the big game did he not? Even though I was heartbroken to see the Cubs take the NL East over my beloved Metropolitans in ‘89, I couldn’t stay too bummed as that Cubbies team was fo shizzle.
Dawson ripping bombs over the ‘Tru-Link’ fence onto Waveland, Jerome Walton and Dwight Smith each had captured lightning in a bottle, and of course there was Wild Thang….but Mark Grace was the leader and no doubt. I can think of several instances over the years (just off the top of my head!) where the opposing team’s 1B got all the press headed into an important matchup and within a couple of games it had become the Mark Grace show. Did the man ever even make an out in a LCS?
Yessir, I gotta agree with you 110% - you may even be charged with making an understatement there! I tell you one other thing about Grace that I’ll never forget…during the perfect game pitched by the Unit in 2004, Grace was in the booth doing the color commentary and he had the outcome sniffed out in like the 4th or 5th inning…he literally predicted it due to his incredible baseball IQ. I’m not blowing smoke either - it’s one of the games that I make sure and re-watch every single year (there are quite a few of those) and I’m literally begging anyone interested in seeing what it is I’m talking about to please, please watch that game.
I’ll never forget that NLCS for what Grace and Will Clark did. Grace hit .647 and Clark hit .650, I was a huge fan of both guys but I’m the weird guy who even though I’m a Dodgers fan, Will Clark was my favorite player.
He truly had a beautiful swing. Lefties seem to have that going for them quite a bit. It sure was something watching those two go toe to toe like that
Another lefty I want in this game is your guy Straw. I live in Connecticut and hated the Yankees and Sawks so from the locals it was your guys I watched on TV and tried so bad to use that leg kick with my wiffle bat.
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@fubar2k7_PSN said in Where's Mark Grace?:
@BxnnyMxn__PSN said in Where's Mark Grace?:
@fubar2k7_PSN said in Where's Mark Grace?:
@BxnnyMxn__PSN said in Where's Mark Grace?:
@fubar2k7_PSN said in Where's Mark Grace?:
Mark Grace would be a great addition. Nothing against Alfonso Soriano but I’d drop him like a hot potato for Grace. 1989 postseason Grace would be insane.
I have to agree with ya there! The man knew how to show up for the big game did he not? Even though I was heartbroken to see the Cubs take the NL East over my beloved Metropolitans in ‘89, I couldn’t stay too bummed as that Cubbies team was fo shizzle.
Dawson ripping bombs over the ‘Tru-Link’ fence onto Waveland, Jerome Walton and Dwight Smith each had captured lightning in a bottle, and of course there was Wild Thang….but Mark Grace was the leader and no doubt. I can think of several instances over the years (just off the top of my head!) where the opposing team’s 1B got all the press headed into an important matchup and within a couple of games it had become the Mark Grace show. Did the man ever even make an out in a LCS?
Yessir, I gotta agree with you 110% - you may even be charged with making an understatement there! I tell you one other thing about Grace that I’ll never forget…during the perfect game pitched by the Unit in 2004, Grace was in the booth doing the color commentary and he had the outcome sniffed out in like the 4th or 5th inning…he literally predicted it due to his incredible baseball IQ. I’m not blowing smoke either - it’s one of the games that I make sure and re-watch every single year (there are quite a few of those) and I’m literally begging anyone interested in seeing what it is I’m talking about to please, please watch that game.
I’ll never forget that NLCS for what Grace and Will Clark did. Grace hit .647 and Clark hit .650, I was a huge fan of both guys but I’m the weird guy who even though I’m a Dodgers fan, Will Clark was my favorite player.
He truly had a beautiful swing. Lefties seem to have that going for them quite a bit. It sure was something watching those two go toe to toe like that
Another lefty I want in this game is your guy Straw. I live in Connecticut and hated the Yankees and Sawks so from the locals it was your guys I watched on TV and tried so bad to use that leg kick with my wiffle bat.
Ahhh you just conjured up images in my minds eye of Darling (speaking of CT!) and Franco running from the bullpen and wandering the parking lot at Shea in full uniforms while trying to find that ball he hit over the scoreboard. What a swing! I love that man.
Your leg kick made me think of Kirby Puckett…imagine how high his would be if he was the same size as Strawberry haha!
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Yet Ryan “Rhino” Sandberg, I was a Cubbie fan
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@HustlinOwl_MLBTS said in Where's Mark Grace?:
Lol SMB4 has both Grace and Santo
Super Mario Brothers 4?
@OU-cherokee_XBL said in Where's Mark Grace?:
Yet Ryan “Rhino” Sandberg, I was a Cubbie fan
"Ryne"
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@fubar2k7_PSN said in Where's Mark Grace?:
@BxnnyMxn__PSN said in Where's Mark Grace?:
@fubar2k7_PSN said in Where's Mark Grace?:
Mark Grace would be a great addition. Nothing against Alfonso Soriano but I’d drop him like a hot potato for Grace. 1989 postseason Grace would be insane.
I have to agree with ya there! The man knew how to show up for the big game did he not? Even though I was heartbroken to see the Cubs take the NL East over my beloved Metropolitans in ‘89, I couldn’t stay too bummed as that Cubbies team was fo shizzle.
Dawson ripping bombs over the ‘Tru-Link’ fence onto Waveland, Jerome Walton and Dwight Smith each had captured lightning in a bottle, and of course there was Wild Thang….but Mark Grace was the leader and no doubt. I can think of several instances over the years (just off the top of my head!) where the opposing team’s 1B got all the press headed into an important matchup and within a couple of games it had become the Mark Grace show. Did the man ever even make an out in a LCS?
Yessir, I gotta agree with you 110% - you may even be charged with making an understatement there! I tell you one other thing about Grace that I’ll never forget…during the perfect game pitched by the Unit in 2004, Grace was in the booth doing the color commentary and he had the outcome sniffed out in like the 4th or 5th inning…he literally predicted it due to his incredible baseball IQ. I’m not blowing smoke either - it’s one of the games that I make sure and re-watch every single year (there are quite a few of those) and I’m literally begging anyone interested in seeing what it is I’m talking about to please, please watch that game.
I’ll never forget that NLCS for what Grace and Will Clark did. Grace hit .647 and Clark hit .650, I was a huge fan of both guys but I’m the weird guy who even though I’m a Dodgers fan, Will Clark was my favorite player.
Dude, Will Clark was my favorite growing up. Never cared much for his cards in game though.
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@ChuckCLC_PSN said in Where's Mark Grace?:
@HustlinOwl_MLBTS said in Where's Mark Grace?:
Lol SMB4 has both Grace and Santo
Super Mario Brothers 4?
@OU-cherokee_XBL said in Where's Mark Grace?:
Yet Ryan “Rhino” Sandberg, I was a Cubbie fan
"Ryne"
Yeah super Mario brothers
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Great discussion all around. There are a few people out there I wish we would see. Gracie being my selfish favorite for that. I did see him in SMB4 which is really what fueled this discussion. I'm not suggesting a 99 insanity but something to acknowledge his contribution to the game. He may not be the most PC individual or there but he was a gritty ball player for sure!
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Ok @fubar2k7_PSN i know I can count on you to have my back on this, plus I want you to experience this again for yourself being a fan of Grace and of Baseball. We were discussing his phenomenal baseball IQ and now I’ve went and found my example since the topic is picking up steam.
Here’s the link:
https://www.youtube.com/live/ULCEaFDFth0?feature=share
Start at 59:50 and watch but especially listen. Unit had pitched FOUR innings at this point. Four. The kicker comes about 3 min later at 1:02:30 mark. You will literally laugh audibly I can almost guarantee it. Please do this for your pal, you won’t regret it.
Four innings in. He called it. Of course as the game progresses it gets more and more entertaining listening to Grace who was fit to be tied due to his nerves as this unforgettable game progresses. I’ve never heard another announcer even come close. Please.
