Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity
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If SDS doesn’t punish those using this exploit, it will act as punishment to those that did not use it in the form of market inflation. Not enforcing the TOS is not a good precedent to set for future exploits either.
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I think in general (at least myself) many folks may not even give a hoot if they get kicked or not (for all the reasons that many have already stepped away for this early).
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Not that SDS will follow suite of EA, but there were several exploits on the EA side that greatly affected the market such as UL packs giving LTD's every pull. They didn't do anything to those that exploited that glitch.
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@theBlindRhino said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
@lucas8181_PSN said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
@aware_ward13_PSN said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
@lucas8181_PSN said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
@aware_ward13_PSN said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
@lucas8181_PSN said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
@aware_ward13_PSN said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
@lightshow_PSN said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
its way more then 100-200 people just saying. Its been on twitch all morning. This spread across the whole community.
How many people of the millions of sds customers do you think watches twitch all day long? You’re right it’s more than 200
But I’d say it evens out to about 1000
And I don’t think sds has an issue banning 1000 people- and that’s even saying every single one of the 1000 twitch viewers did it.
If half of them(500) did this I can see sds banning 500 ppl no problem
They know the banned customers are just going to start all over again and spend even more money anyway
Banned users can't just purchase the game again, they will be banned from online play for the rest of the year.
The only way around it is to purchase the console you weren't on before (PS/XBOX), buy the game, and create a new account.
It was easily thousands of people that did it. Just look at the buy now/sell now orders in the market.
I never said buy the game again- I said start over meaning they will start from scratch and if you think they are grinding from scratch and won’t buy stubs to get things done quicker then idk what to tell you
And if you think sds won’t ban 1000 people for making the company lose money then idk what to tell you either lol
Millions of people buy this game- banning 1000 wouldn’t hurt them at all
But as the kids say, “do you”…
Just something I wouldn’t do at all- this is something that sds would def ban ppl for because it makes them lose money and it’s in the tos “don’t exploit bugs”
You can't start from scratch on your console when you are banned. It's a console ban every time. It's a huge risk for both sides. Those quick selling cards, and SDS who may potentially destroy the game population for the rest of the year.
If I sell 10 common cards and get banned. I'm not buying an Xbox and another copy of the game. I'm just not playing the game the rest of the year.
Lol you don’t get console banned- you get account banned.
Console banned might be for multiple infractions.
It's absolutely console banned for market manipulation. I followed multiple streamers who got the ban hammer last year for this type of thing. One guy bought an Xbox and STILL couldn't play online until this year. (Big Tom)
It's not worth the risk either way IMO.
Sounds like you are describing an account ban.
I'm old enough and smart enough to know what I'm talking about bud. I'm also not here to convince some random guy on the internet.
Simply a warning that I don't believe it's worth the risk. But you do you!
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@lucas8181_PSN said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
@aware_ward13_PSN said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
@lucas8181_PSN said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
@aware_ward13_PSN said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
@lucas8181_PSN said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
@aware_ward13_PSN said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
@lightshow_PSN said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
its way more then 100-200 people just saying. Its been on twitch all morning. This spread across the whole community.
How many people of the millions of sds customers do you think watches twitch all day long? You’re right it’s more than 200
But I’d say it evens out to about 1000
And I don’t think sds has an issue banning 1000 people- and that’s even saying every single one of the 1000 twitch viewers did it.
If half of them(500) did this I can see sds banning 500 ppl no problem
They know the banned customers are just going to start all over again and spend even more money anyway
Banned users can't just purchase the game again, they will be banned from online play for the rest of the year.
The only way around it is to purchase the console you weren't on before (PS/XBOX), buy the game, and create a new account.
It was easily thousands of people that did it. Just look at the buy now/sell now orders in the market.
I never said buy the game again- I said start over meaning they will start from scratch and if you think they are grinding from scratch and won’t buy stubs to get things done quicker then idk what to tell you
And if you think sds won’t ban 1000 people for making the company lose money then idk what to tell you either lol
Millions of people buy this game- banning 1000 wouldn’t hurt them at all
But as the kids say, “do you”…
Just something I wouldn’t do at all- this is something that sds would def ban ppl for because it makes them lose money and it’s in the tos “don’t exploit bugs”
You can't start from scratch on your console when you are banned. It's a console ban every time. It's a huge risk for both sides. Those quick selling cards, and SDS who may potentially destroy the game population for the rest of the year.
If I sell 10 common cards and get banned. I'm not buying an Xbox and another copy of the game. I'm just not playing the game the rest of the year.
Lol you don’t get console banned- you get account banned.
Console banned might be for multiple infractions.
It's absolutely console banned for market manipulation. I followed multiple streamers who got the ban hammer last year for this type of thing. One guy bought an Xbox and STILL couldn't play online until this year. (Big Tom)
It's not worth the risk either way IMO.
Ohh you mean for market manipulation- my bad. Yes I agree with you
And we also agree that it’s not worth it at all lol. Sorry for the confusion
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@lucas8181_PSN said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
@theBlindRhino said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
@lucas8181_PSN said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
@aware_ward13_PSN said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
@lucas8181_PSN said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
@aware_ward13_PSN said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
@lucas8181_PSN said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
@aware_ward13_PSN said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
@lightshow_PSN said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
its way more then 100-200 people just saying. Its been on twitch all morning. This spread across the whole community.
How many people of the millions of sds customers do you think watches twitch all day long? You’re right it’s more than 200
But I’d say it evens out to about 1000
And I don’t think sds has an issue banning 1000 people- and that’s even saying every single one of the 1000 twitch viewers did it.
If half of them(500) did this I can see sds banning 500 ppl no problem
They know the banned customers are just going to start all over again and spend even more money anyway
Banned users can't just purchase the game again, they will be banned from online play for the rest of the year.
The only way around it is to purchase the console you weren't on before (PS/XBOX), buy the game, and create a new account.
It was easily thousands of people that did it. Just look at the buy now/sell now orders in the market.
I never said buy the game again- I said start over meaning they will start from scratch and if you think they are grinding from scratch and won’t buy stubs to get things done quicker then idk what to tell you
And if you think sds won’t ban 1000 people for making the company lose money then idk what to tell you either lol
Millions of people buy this game- banning 1000 wouldn’t hurt them at all
But as the kids say, “do you”…
Just something I wouldn’t do at all- this is something that sds would def ban ppl for because it makes them lose money and it’s in the tos “don’t exploit bugs”
You can't start from scratch on your console when you are banned. It's a console ban every time. It's a huge risk for both sides. Those quick selling cards, and SDS who may potentially destroy the game population for the rest of the year.
If I sell 10 common cards and get banned. I'm not buying an Xbox and another copy of the game. I'm just not playing the game the rest of the year.
Lol you don’t get console banned- you get account banned.
Console banned might be for multiple infractions.
It's absolutely console banned for market manipulation. I followed multiple streamers who got the ban hammer last year for this type of thing. One guy bought an Xbox and STILL couldn't play online until this year. (Big Tom)
It's not worth the risk either way IMO.
Sounds like you are describing an account ban.
I'm old enough and smart enough to know what I'm talking about bud. I'm also not here to convince some random guy on the internet.
Simply a warning that I don't believe it's worth the risk. But you do you!
Why mention that the streamer even bought an XBox? What relevance would that have if it was a console ban?
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The most surprising part to me isn't that SDS made a significant mistake when trying to push a minor update. It's that they have left it up ALL day. You would think at the very least they would take the app offline with server maintenance while they figure out what they did wrong.
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It’s SDS’s mistake, they shouldn’t punish someone for a mistake they made. They should just fix it and move on, because if it’s in packs and people are quick selling, it’s not the consumers fault,
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@theBlindRhino said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
The people who really took advantage of this did it hours ago. They bought up everything single gold (common free agent) listed under 900 and quicksold. Way before this thread was even started.
And those folks will be banned
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@jcassaro44_PSN said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
It’s SDS’s mistake, they shouldn’t punish someone for a mistake they made. They should just fix it and move on, because if it’s in packs and people are quick selling, it’s not the consumers fault,
A post from the Reddit thread regarding this topic-
And idk if you saw the post earlier in this thread but SDS TOS literally says “against rules to exploit bugs”
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@theBlindRhino said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
@lucas8181_PSN said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
@theBlindRhino said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
@lucas8181_PSN said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
@aware_ward13_PSN said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
@lucas8181_PSN said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
@aware_ward13_PSN said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
@lucas8181_PSN said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
@aware_ward13_PSN said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
@lightshow_PSN said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
its way more then 100-200 people just saying. Its been on twitch all morning. This spread across the whole community.
How many people of the millions of sds customers do you think watches twitch all day long? You’re right it’s more than 200
But I’d say it evens out to about 1000
And I don’t think sds has an issue banning 1000 people- and that’s even saying every single one of the 1000 twitch viewers did it.
If half of them(500) did this I can see sds banning 500 ppl no problem
They know the banned customers are just going to start all over again and spend even more money anyway
Banned users can't just purchase the game again, they will be banned from online play for the rest of the year.
The only way around it is to purchase the console you weren't on before (PS/XBOX), buy the game, and create a new account.
It was easily thousands of people that did it. Just look at the buy now/sell now orders in the market.
I never said buy the game again- I said start over meaning they will start from scratch and if you think they are grinding from scratch and won’t buy stubs to get things done quicker then idk what to tell you
And if you think sds won’t ban 1000 people for making the company lose money then idk what to tell you either lol
Millions of people buy this game- banning 1000 wouldn’t hurt them at all
But as the kids say, “do you”…
Just something I wouldn’t do at all- this is something that sds would def ban ppl for because it makes them lose money and it’s in the tos “don’t exploit bugs”
You can't start from scratch on your console when you are banned. It's a console ban every time. It's a huge risk for both sides. Those quick selling cards, and SDS who may potentially destroy the game population for the rest of the year.
If I sell 10 common cards and get banned. I'm not buying an Xbox and another copy of the game. I'm just not playing the game the rest of the year.
Lol you don’t get console banned- you get account banned.
Console banned might be for multiple infractions.
It's absolutely console banned for market manipulation. I followed multiple streamers who got the ban hammer last year for this type of thing. One guy bought an Xbox and STILL couldn't play online until this year. (Big Tom)
It's not worth the risk either way IMO.
Sounds like you are describing an account ban.
I'm old enough and smart enough to know what I'm talking about bud. I'm also not here to convince some random guy on the internet.
Simply a warning that I don't believe it's worth the risk. But you do you!
Why mention that the streamer even bought an XBox? What relevance would that have if it was a console ban?
because....stay with me here quick draw...the streamer played on a playstation and his console was banned for market manipulation. Hell, go to his channel and ask him. He's live right now.
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@Bearsfan217_XBL said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
@theBlindRhino said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
The people who really took advantage of this did it hours ago. They bought up everything single gold (common free agent) listed under 900 and quicksold. Way before this thread was even started.
And those folks will be banned
100%. I don't THINK selling current inventory will get a ban. But if dudes are buying 15 stubb cards and quick selling for 1K before others realized what was going on? They're gone.
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@lucas8181_PSN said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
@theBlindRhino said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
@lucas8181_PSN said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
@theBlindRhino said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
@lucas8181_PSN said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
@aware_ward13_PSN said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
@lucas8181_PSN said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
@aware_ward13_PSN said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
@lucas8181_PSN said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
@aware_ward13_PSN said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
@lightshow_PSN said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
its way more then 100-200 people just saying. Its been on twitch all morning. This spread across the whole community.
How many people of the millions of sds customers do you think watches twitch all day long? You’re right it’s more than 200
But I’d say it evens out to about 1000
And I don’t think sds has an issue banning 1000 people- and that’s even saying every single one of the 1000 twitch viewers did it.
If half of them(500) did this I can see sds banning 500 ppl no problem
They know the banned customers are just going to start all over again and spend even more money anyway
Banned users can't just purchase the game again, they will be banned from online play for the rest of the year.
The only way around it is to purchase the console you weren't on before (PS/XBOX), buy the game, and create a new account.
It was easily thousands of people that did it. Just look at the buy now/sell now orders in the market.
I never said buy the game again- I said start over meaning they will start from scratch and if you think they are grinding from scratch and won’t buy stubs to get things done quicker then idk what to tell you
And if you think sds won’t ban 1000 people for making the company lose money then idk what to tell you either lol
Millions of people buy this game- banning 1000 wouldn’t hurt them at all
But as the kids say, “do you”…
Just something I wouldn’t do at all- this is something that sds would def ban ppl for because it makes them lose money and it’s in the tos “don’t exploit bugs”
You can't start from scratch on your console when you are banned. It's a console ban every time. It's a huge risk for both sides. Those quick selling cards, and SDS who may potentially destroy the game population for the rest of the year.
If I sell 10 common cards and get banned. I'm not buying an Xbox and another copy of the game. I'm just not playing the game the rest of the year.
Lol you don’t get console banned- you get account banned.
Console banned might be for multiple infractions.
It's absolutely console banned for market manipulation. I followed multiple streamers who got the ban hammer last year for this type of thing. One guy bought an Xbox and STILL couldn't play online until this year. (Big Tom)
It's not worth the risk either way IMO.
Sounds like you are describing an account ban.
I'm old enough and smart enough to know what I'm talking about bud. I'm also not here to convince some random guy on the internet.
Simply a warning that I don't believe it's worth the risk. But you do you!
Why mention that the streamer even bought an XBox? What relevance would that have if it was a console ban?
because....stay with me here quick draw...the streamer played on a playstation and his console was banned for market manipulation. Hell, go to his channel and ask him. He's live right now.
Okay genius...
"One guy bought an Xbox and STILL couldn't play online until this year."
If it was a console ban. He could have played on his new XBOX. If it was an account ban and he tried to use his account from PS on his new console it wouldn't work. If the guy had an IQ above 100 he would have created a new account instead of trying to see if a new console would work and then waiting a whole year.
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I quick sold a low overall today for 1k stubs and I thought it was weird. Didn't know it was a glitch. I just sold 1 and tried to sell it for normal buy now but it wouldn't let me. I better not get banned for 1 QS of a card LOL
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@RaysBraves_PSN said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
I quick sold a low overall today for 1k stubs and I thought it was weird. Didn't know it was a glitch. I just sold 1 and tried to sell it for normal buy now but it wouldn't let me. I better not get banned for 1 QS of a card LOL
Sorry buddy. Rules are rules. See you next year.
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@whiplash0013_PSN said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
Not that SDS will follow suite of EA, but there were several exploits on the EA side that greatly affected the market such as UL packs giving LTD's every pull. They didn't do anything to those that exploited that glitch.
SDS is not EA. EA will give you a warning, SDS just bans you.
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@theBlindRhino said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
Sorry buddy. Rules are rules. See you next year.
Knowing SDS I am probably screwed. I didn't even think about a glitch. I tried to list it for a price and it said I can't because it is under the QS value, so I QS it. I was just trying to get rid of my dups.
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@RaysBraves_PSN said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
@theBlindRhino said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
Sorry buddy. Rules are rules. See you next year.
Knowing SDS I am probably screwed. I didn't even think about a glitch. I tried to list it for a price and it said I can't because it is under the QS value, so I QS it. I was just trying to get rid of my dups.
Excuses are the refuge of cowards.
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@theBlindRhino said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
Excuses are the refuge of cowards.
William Goldsmith
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@RaysBraves_PSN said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
@theBlindRhino said in Companion App Bug and Suspicious Market Activity:
Excuses are the refuge of cowards.
William Goldsmith
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