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How is a guy batting .251 a high diamond?

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  • xElRojo44x_MLBTSX Offline
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    @txbizman_PSN said

    Your Astros were dominant last year, and are a heavy favorite this year. This group does not need to cheat (except for maybe Altuve). 🙂

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    @txbizman_PSN said in How is a guy batting .251 a high diamond?:

    Compare the hitting stats of Mookie (.251) to Yordan and tell me this game isn't about bias? Funny, when Verlander had a low ERA with the Astros, he was always an 85/86. Now, his highest ERA in years with the Mets and he's still a high diamond.

    Mookie’s OPS is nearly identical to his career OPS in LA so odds are unless he has some steep decline overall on offense the offensive ratings won’t change massively. Verlander hasn’t been pitching long enough to get penalized by the rating adjustment. They only do them every 3 weeks. That being said he’s had the following starts.

    5 IP 1 ER
    7 IP 1 ER
    5 IP 6 ER
    8 IP 1 ER

    I’m sure they won’t kill his ratings because the Rays tagged him when he’s owning everyone else.

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  • iBonafideScrub__PSNI Offline
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    @txbizman_PSN said in How is a guy batting .251 a high diamond?:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2022/04/26/yankees-letter-revealed/

    Everyone cheats. Who cares?

    Yordan’s lawyer, lmao

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    @txbizman_PSN said in How is a guy batting .251 a high diamond?:

    Compare the hitting stats of Mookie (.251) to Yordan and tell me this game isn't about bias? Funny, when Verlander had a low ERA with the Astros, he was always an 85/86. Now, his highest ERA in years with the Mets and he's still a high diamond.

    It’s 2023 and we’re still using AVG and ERA as the be-all end-all?

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    Astros are weak

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    Batting average doesn’t matter. SDS uses a revolutionary, highly sophisticated rating system using 5 critical categories: dancing ability, coolness, dopeness, freshness, and smart-brained.

    Obviously, they rate each category with a traditional 1-13 rating system, where 8 is the highest. The scale goes up and then back down — like a tent.

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  • urbanphilosophy_XBLU Offline
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    This just shows how ignorant some people are to these ratings. Overall doesn’t mean much. All 99’s aren’t good , all 95s aren’t bad and a 90 overall doesn’t directly reflect average. Mookie I believe is also hitting almost 400 with RISP. Clutch factors in among many other stats that aren’t batting average

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  • txbizman_PSNT Offline
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    @fubar2k7_PSN said in How is a guy batting .251 a high diamond?:

    @txbizman_PSN said in How is a guy batting .251 a high diamond?:

    Compare the hitting stats of Mookie (.251) to Yordan and tell me this game isn't about bias? Funny, when Verlander had a low ERA with the Astros, he was always an 85/86. Now, his highest ERA in years with the Mets and he's still a high diamond.

    Mookie’s OPS is nearly identical to his career OPS in LA so odds are unless he has some steep decline overall on offense the offensive ratings won’t change massively. Verlander hasn’t been pitching long enough to get penalized by the rating adjustment. They only do them every 3 weeks. That being said he’s had the following starts.

    5 IP 1 ER
    7 IP 1 ER
    5 IP 6 ER
    8 IP 1 ER

    I’m sure they won’t kill his ratings because the Rays tagged him when he’s owning everyone else.

    Why did Verlander get a boost just for the team move?

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  • txbizman_PSNT Offline
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    @urbanphilosophy_XBL said in How is a guy batting .251 a high diamond?:

    This just shows how ignorant some people are to these ratings. Overall doesn’t mean much. All 99’s aren’t good , all 95s aren’t bad and a 90 overall doesn’t directly reflect average. Mookie I believe is also hitting almost 400 with RISP. Clutch factors in among many other stats that aren’t batting average

    Yordan is hitting .457 RISP. I just want to know why one is low level diamond and Mookie isn't? I want to know why Verlander started low-level diamond for years, but was bumped to high-level right when he went to the Mets? The stats aren't even close.

    The ignorance isn't from me.

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    @fubar2k7_PSN said in How is a guy batting .251 a high diamond?:

    @txbizman_PSN said in How is a guy batting .251 a high diamond?:

    Compare the hitting stats of Mookie (.251) to Yordan and tell me this game isn't about bias? Funny, when Verlander had a low ERA with the Astros, he was always an 85/86. Now, his highest ERA in years with the Mets and he's still a high diamond.

    Mookie’s OPS is nearly identical to his career OPS in LA so odds are unless he has some steep decline overall on offense the offensive ratings won’t change massively. Verlander hasn’t been pitching long enough to get penalized by the rating adjustment. They only do them every 3 weeks. That being said he’s had the following starts.

    5 IP 1 ER
    7 IP 1 ER
    5 IP 6 ER
    8 IP 1 ER

    I’m sure they won’t kill his ratings because the Rays tagged him when he’s owning everyone else.

    Verlander is 2 and 2.

    ERA:

    2017: 1.06
    2018: 2.52
    2019: 2.58
    2020: 3:00
    2021: TJ
    2022: 1.75

    2023: 3:60

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  • txbizman_PSNT Offline
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    The flaw isn't in gameplay, it's in the BS ratings.

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  • Ericulous1_PSNE Offline
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    Because I asked them to keep all Astros low because there were already too many Gatekeepers in the AL West. Kirby Yates was a Diamond until last year despite having a 12.46 ERA in the 6 games he played in 2020, missing 2021 and only appearing in 9 games in 2022. And before that he had one really good year in 2019.

    So, in my humble opinion, ratings are all made up.

    Degrom is the second highest Live Series in the game and he’s not pitched a full season since 2020 where he pitched 12 games in the Covid year. Also, I’m pretty sure OP might be Yordan’s dad or something. Trust me, I get it. Just rewatch his HRs against Robbie “middle middle” Ray and Alvarado. As a lifelong Pujols fan, whenever I had to argue that he was better than well, everyone…I’d just watch Game 3 and Game 5 again and again.

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    @Ericulous1_PSN said in How is a guy batting .251 a high diamond?:

    Because I asked them to keep all Astros low because there were already too many Gatekeepers in the AL West. Kirby Yates was a Diamond until last year despite having a 12.46 ERA in the 6 games he played in 2020, missing 2021 and only appearing in 9 games in 2022. And before that he had one really good year in 2019.

    So, in my humble opinion, ratings are all made up.

    Degrom is the second highest Live Series in the game and he’s not pitched a full season since 2020 where he pitched 12 games in the Covid year. Also, I’m pretty sure OP might be Yordan’s dad or something. Trust me, I get it. Just rewatch his HRs against Robbie “middle middle” Ray and Alvarado. As a lifelong Pujols fan, whenever I had to argue that he was better than well, everyone…I’d just watch Game 3 and Game 5 again and again.

    Hahaa. I like and agree with most of your post. Also, I am not Yordan's dad, as he is the dad of most of the MLB pitchers.

    Anyway, my son is a higher level PG (Perfect Game) player and we have met many current/former players. There isn't a dude better than Yordan. He deserves a lot more respect than he is getting from this game and in general. Honestly, I can't think of another player I would want up to the plate, with the game on the line.

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  • fubar2k7_PSNF Offline
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    @txbizman_PSN said in How is a guy batting .251 a high diamond?:

    @fubar2k7_PSN said in How is a guy batting .251 a high diamond?:

    @txbizman_PSN said in How is a guy batting .251 a high diamond?:

    Compare the hitting stats of Mookie (.251) to Yordan and tell me this game isn't about bias? Funny, when Verlander had a low ERA with the Astros, he was always an 85/86. Now, his highest ERA in years with the Mets and he's still a high diamond.

    Mookie’s OPS is nearly identical to his career OPS in LA so odds are unless he has some steep decline overall on offense the offensive ratings won’t change massively. Verlander hasn’t been pitching long enough to get penalized by the rating adjustment. They only do them every 3 weeks. That being said he’s had the following starts.

    5 IP 1 ER
    7 IP 1 ER
    5 IP 6 ER
    8 IP 1 ER

    I’m sure they won’t kill his ratings because the Rays tagged him when he’s owning everyone else.

    Why did Verlander get a boost just for the team move?

    50% of his rating is based on 2022. Maybe he should’ve sucked more last year.

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    @txbizman_PSN said in How is a guy batting .251 a high diamond?:

    Compare the hitting stats of Mookie (.251) to Yordan and tell me this game isn't about bias? Funny, when Verlander had a low ERA with the Astros, he was always an 85/86. Now, his highest ERA in years with the Mets and he's still a high diamond.

    Mookie is a superior defensive player compared to Alvarez which is also taken into consideration when it comes to ratings. A better argument could be made for Ronald Acuna Jr. Why is he not a 90 when right now he is the clear MVP favorite by a mile over his next closest competition. It’s not like Mookie is having a bad year.

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    @txbizman_PSN said in How is a guy batting .251 a high diamond?:

    And we have bi-weekly ratings (knee-[censored] reactions) for a reason. Some are just applied differently .

    You do realize that they have an actual algorithm they use that ultimately makes these decisions. All someone is doing is plugging numbers into an updatable field and the the algorithm does the rest. So if you want to blame someone or something blame the algorithm for being biased.

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  • killerpresence4_MLBTSK Offline
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    @txbizman_PSN said in How is a guy batting .251 a high diamond?:

    And we have bi-weekly ratings (knee-[censored] reactions) for a reason. Some are just applied differently .
    And it’s every three weeks this year

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  • NYGxNYMxFan68_XBLN Offline
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    @txbizman_PSN said in How is a guy batting .251 a high diamond?:

    @Ericulous1_PSN said in How is a guy batting .251 a high diamond?:

    Because I asked them to keep all Astros low because there were already too many Gatekeepers in the AL West. Kirby Yates was a Diamond until last year despite having a 12.46 ERA in the 6 games he played in 2020, missing 2021 and only appearing in 9 games in 2022. And before that he had one really good year in 2019.

    So, in my humble opinion, ratings are all made up.

    Degrom is the second highest Live Series in the game and he’s not pitched a full season since 2020 where he pitched 12 games in the Covid year. Also, I’m pretty sure OP might be Yordan’s dad or something. Trust me, I get it. Just rewatch his HRs against Robbie “middle middle” Ray and Alvarado. As a lifelong Pujols fan, whenever I had to argue that he was better than well, everyone…I’d just watch Game 3 and Game 5 again and again.

    Hahaa. I like and agree with most of your post. Also, I am not Yordan's dad, as he is the dad of most of the MLB pitchers.

    Anyway, my son is a higher level PG (Perfect Game) player and we have met many current/former players. There isn't a dude better than Yordan. He deserves a lot more respect than he is getting from this game and in general. Honestly, I can't think of another player I would want up to the plate, with the game on the line.

    In 2023 Yordan has probably been the most clutch hitter in the game. That being said, it's not even June and the ratings are based on 3 yr algorithms. If he continues to hit like this in the clutch, with RISP, high WAR, etc, then I can see it.....but for now, if I were pitching, I'd still be more concerned about pitching to a guy like Judge or Ohtani than Yordan....for now anyway.....

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    A glorified DH or an above average fielder and hitter? Which one is going to be rated higher?

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    Mookie is on pace for 34 HRs, 117 Runs and 95 RBIs with an OBP of .364 and SLG of .522. And while playing all over the field.

    Are you’re saying he should be downgraded because of Batting Average? Batting Average?

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