30 min cooldown because yall won't fix your game!?!?!
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Wait. They have a penalty for dashboarding now?! That’s awesome.
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@HaveS0ul_XBL said in 30 min cooldown because yall won't fix your game!?!?!:
@The_Canuckler said in 30 min cooldown because yall won't fix your game!?!?!:
I also wonder how SDS is supposed to fix individuals connectivity issues. I’ve always wondered that.
Wait, what? In all seriousness, you're blaming every single person that gets caught in a freeze off? How? Imagine playing a 3 v 3 co op game & land in a freeze off...all 6 people are equally liable for this? What if 5 are having issues with their ISP?
Make this make sense for me. If you're wired on fiber 2 GB, with NAT as open as can be, how is that 1 out of 6's fault?
I'm a big SDS supporter & generally think many come down to harsh on a variety of things. 1 thing I'm still struggling to wrap my head around is freeze offs. It seems like an unacceptable outcome (especially with the slap in the face of the cool down timer. That was not the wisest customer service/quality of life improvement. It would have been to address freeze offs, or at least provide input on how to minimize/prevent them.)
bro first of all - chill out - second - read the below comment by BJDUB - he is right - turn OFF crossplay - i had freezing too until i turned mine off - now im only playing PS users and 0 freezes so far - i hope this helps you
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@TheHungryHole said in 30 min cooldown because yall won't fix your game!?!?!:
@HaveS0ul_XBL said in 30 min cooldown because yall won't fix your game!?!?!:
@The_Canuckler said in 30 min cooldown because yall won't fix your game!?!?!:
I also wonder how SDS is supposed to fix individuals connectivity issues. I’ve always wondered that.
Wait, what? In all seriousness, you're blaming every single person that gets caught in a freeze off? How? Imagine playing a 3 v 3 co op game & land in a freeze off...all 6 people are equally liable for this? What if 5 are having issues with their ISP?
Make this make sense for me. If you're wired on fiber 2 GB, with NAT as open as can be, how is that 1 out of 6's fault?
I'm a big SDS supporter & generally think many come down to harsh on a variety of things. 1 thing I'm still struggling to wrap my head around is freeze offs. It seems like an unacceptable outcome (especially with the slap in the face of the cool down timer. That was not the wisest customer service/quality of life improvement. It would have been to address freeze offs, or at least provide input on how to minimize/prevent them.)
bro first of all - chill out - second - read the below comment by BJDUB - he is right - turn OFF crossplay - i had freezing too until i turned mine off - now im only playing PS users and 0 freezes so far - i hope this helps you
There’s really not much SDS can do if connections are peer to peer. Best thing we can do as players is be proactive.
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@TheHungryHole said in 30 min cooldown because yall won't fix your game!?!?!:
I'm chillin....I wasn't angry. The statement just doesn't make sense to me. If anyone wants to address the questions I asked, please do.
As mentioned two or three times already, I've turned off crossplay & experienced one of a handful of freezes in that game.
I always expect to have the strongest connection everytime I go into a game, for the most part. I am wired with verizon fios business speed with hardly and other devices going on.
Anything else anyone has in context to NAT/anything diagnostic related to help out? Otherwise, it seems hasty to enforce a cool down timer for an unavoidable outcome that has sort of plagued us for as long as I remember (considering I've played DD since year 1.)
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@BJDUBBYAH_PSN said in 30 min cooldown because yall won't fix your game!?!?!:
@TheHungryHole said in 30 min cooldown because yall won't fix your game!?!?!:
@HaveS0ul_XBL said in 30 min cooldown because yall won't fix your game!?!?!:
@The_Canuckler said in 30 min cooldown because yall won't fix your game!?!?!:
I also wonder how SDS is supposed to fix individuals connectivity issues. I’ve always wondered that.
Wait, what? In all seriousness, you're blaming every single person that gets caught in a freeze off? How? Imagine playing a 3 v 3 co op game & land in a freeze off...all 6 people are equally liable for this? What if 5 are having issues with their ISP?
Make this make sense for me. If you're wired on fiber 2 GB, with NAT as open as can be, how is that 1 out of 6's fault?
I'm a big SDS supporter & generally think many come down to harsh on a variety of things. 1 thing I'm still struggling to wrap my head around is freeze offs. It seems like an unacceptable outcome (especially with the slap in the face of the cool down timer. That was not the wisest customer service/quality of life improvement. It would have been to address freeze offs, or at least provide input on how to minimize/prevent them.)
bro first of all - chill out - second - read the below comment by BJDUB - he is right - turn OFF crossplay - i had freezing too until i turned mine off - now im only playing PS users and 0 freezes so far - i hope this helps you
There’s really not much SDS can do if connections are peer to peer. Best thing we can do as players is be proactive.
absolutely mate and thank you guys for telling me about this - since i turned off crossplay 0 issues so far
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@BJDUBBYAH_PSN said in 30 min cooldown because yall won't fix your game!?!?!:
@TheHungryHole said in 30 min cooldown because yall won't fix your game!?!?!:
@HaveS0ul_XBL said in 30 min cooldown because yall won't fix your game!?!?!:
@The_Canuckler said in 30 min cooldown because yall won't fix your game!?!?!:
I also wonder how SDS is supposed to fix individuals connectivity issues. I’ve always wondered that.
Wait, what? In all seriousness, you're blaming every single person that gets caught in a freeze off? How? Imagine playing a 3 v 3 co op game & land in a freeze off...all 6 people are equally liable for this? What if 5 are having issues with their ISP?
Make this make sense for me. If you're wired on fiber 2 GB, with NAT as open as can be, how is that 1 out of 6's fault?
I'm a big SDS supporter & generally think many come down to harsh on a variety of things. 1 thing I'm still struggling to wrap my head around is freeze offs. It seems like an unacceptable outcome (especially with the slap in the face of the cool down timer. That was not the wisest customer service/quality of life improvement. It would have been to address freeze offs, or at least provide input on how to minimize/prevent them.)
bro first of all - chill out - second - read the below comment by BJDUB - he is right - turn OFF crossplay - i had freezing too until i turned mine off - now im only playing PS users and 0 freezes so far - i hope this helps you
There’s really not much SDS can do if connections are peer to peer. Best thing we can do as players is be proactive.
My curiosity is -- I don't encounter "freezing" when playing other co-op online sports games...The worst experience was always NBA 2K due to truly incredible lag online. Literally unplayable IMO. Not fun. The Show has always been more than fine for me, its just the freezing I'm still so curious about.
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@HaveS0ul_XBL said in 30 min cooldown because yall won't fix your game!?!?!:
@TheHungryHole said in 30 min cooldown because yall won't fix your game!?!?!:
I'm chillin....I wasn't angry. The statement just doesn't make sense to me. If anyone wants to address the questions I asked, please do.
As mentioned two or three times already, I've turned off crossplay & experienced one of a handful of freezes in that game.
I always expect to have the strongest connection everytime I go into a game, for the most part. I am wired with verizon fios business speed with hardly and other devices going on.
Anything else anyone has in context to NAT/anything diagnostic related to help out? Otherwise, it seems hasty to enforce a cool down timer for an unavoidable outcome that has sort of plagued us for as long as I remember (considering I've played DD since year 1.)
ok well take this for a grain of salt here - i am hardwired on a powerline adapter into the PS5 - i am on non fibre speed - we are talking 50 DL / 10 UP = 1995 peasant speed = i have had no freezes since turning crossplay off = who knows but your experience and mine are very different here - our sample sizes are too small to really say for certain what is going on (or not)
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@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in 30 min cooldown because yall won't fix your game!?!?!:
Wait. They have a penalty for dashboarding now?! That’s awesome.
Only in ranked Co-Op.
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@TheHungryHole said in 30 min cooldown because yall won't fix your game!?!?!:
@HaveS0ul_XBL said in 30 min cooldown because yall won't fix your game!?!?!:
@TheHungryHole said in 30 min cooldown because yall won't fix your game!?!?!:
I'm chillin....I wasn't angry. The statement just doesn't make sense to me. If anyone wants to address the questions I asked, please do.
As mentioned two or three times already, I've turned off crossplay & experienced one of a handful of freezes in that game.
I always expect to have the strongest connection everytime I go into a game, for the most part. I am wired with verizon fios business speed with hardly and other devices going on.
Anything else anyone has in context to NAT/anything diagnostic related to help out? Otherwise, it seems hasty to enforce a cool down timer for an unavoidable outcome that has sort of plagued us for as long as I remember (considering I've played DD since year 1.)
ok well take this for a grain of salt here - i am hardwired on a powerline adapter into the PS5 - i am on non fibre speed - we are talking 50 DL / 10 UP = 1995 peasant speed = i have had no freezes since turning crossplay off = who knows but your experience and mine are very different here - our sample sizes are too small to really say for certain what is going on (or not)
For sure! Respect, good sir. I will probably head home tonight & attempt ranked co-op on xbox only and spend some more time that way.
18 out of 20 games I'd say are fine. I much rather encounter freeze offs in Ranked Co-Op as I have no attachment to my record (although planning to play until reaching W.S.) -- but for years I didn't encounter many freeze offs on Ranked Solo.
The one thing for anyone blaming anyone else (IMO) is that you can't control your opponents connection. But that's obvious. That sort of leaves you open to a freeze-off regardless, no?
Preciate all the dialogue
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@HaveS0ul_XBL said in 30 min cooldown because yall won't fix your game!?!?!:
@TheHungryHole said in 30 min cooldown because yall won't fix your game!?!?!:
@HaveS0ul_XBL said in 30 min cooldown because yall won't fix your game!?!?!:
@TheHungryHole said in 30 min cooldown because yall won't fix your game!?!?!:
I'm chillin....I wasn't angry. The statement just doesn't make sense to me. If anyone wants to address the questions I asked, please do.
As mentioned two or three times already, I've turned off crossplay & experienced one of a handful of freezes in that game.
I always expect to have the strongest connection everytime I go into a game, for the most part. I am wired with verizon fios business speed with hardly and other devices going on.
Anything else anyone has in context to NAT/anything diagnostic related to help out? Otherwise, it seems hasty to enforce a cool down timer for an unavoidable outcome that has sort of plagued us for as long as I remember (considering I've played DD since year 1.)
ok well take this for a grain of salt here - i am hardwired on a powerline adapter into the PS5 - i am on non fibre speed - we are talking 50 DL / 10 UP = 1995 peasant speed = i have had no freezes since turning crossplay off = who knows but your experience and mine are very different here - our sample sizes are too small to really say for certain what is going on (or not)
For sure! Respect, good sir. I will probably head home tonight & attempt ranked co-op on xbox only and spend some more time that way.
18 out of 20 games I'd say are fine. I much rather encounter freeze offs in Ranked Co-Op as I have no attachment to my record (although planning to play until reaching W.S.) -- but for years I didn't encounter many freeze offs on Ranked Solo.
The one thing for anyone blaming anyone (IMO) is that you can't control your opponents connection. But that's obvious.
Preciate all the dialogue
Yea I agree with the last paragraph it’s weird to implement that in coop when 6 people are connecting to each other
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@HaveS0ul_XBL said in 30 min cooldown because yall won't fix your game!?!?!:
@The_Canuckler said in 30 min cooldown because yall won't fix your game!?!?!:
I also wonder how SDS is supposed to fix individuals connectivity issues. I’ve always wondered that.
Wait, what? In all seriousness, you're blaming every single person that gets caught in a freeze off? How? Imagine playing a 3 v 3 co op game & land in a freeze off...all 6 people are equally liable for this? What if 5 are having issues with their ISP?
Make this make sense for me. If you're wired on fiber 2 GB, with NAT as open as can be, how is that 1 out of 6's fault?
I'm a big SDS supporter & generally think many come down to harsh on a variety of things. 1 thing I'm still struggling to wrap my head around is freeze offs. It seems like an unacceptable outcome (especially with the slap in the face of the cool down timer. That was not the wisest customer service/quality of life improvement. It would have been to address freeze offs, or at least provide input on how to minimize/prevent them.)
They didn't implement the Cool Down period to help counter freeze offs. It was implemented because people complained that other people were quitting Co-Op games last year and when that person quit; the game would end.
So SDS decided to implement a counter to people quitting Co-Op games by implementing a college down period for the person who quits.
What they (SDS) didn't consider is how to distinguish a quit from an ACTIVE game and a person dashboarding, as that's the only way, to leave a freeze off.
So now when the Ranked Co-Op game freezes; the person that decides to dashboard because they don't want to sit in a freeze off also gets hit with a cool down penalty.
It (Cool Down Penalty) was a good move by SDS; but was not throughly tested, as with other aspects of the game, before release.
They just need to go in and delete the Cool Down code from the game. It's broken.
And if it is ever implemented into regular Ranked, BR, or Events; people will just wait it out for the other person to quit.
What they need to figure out how to code is if there is a set timeframe, during an online game where nothing happens, the game itself just ends and doesn't declare anyone the winner or loser.
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Another freeze. Now my punishment is 60 minutes. My bad my friend is on Xbox, I don't see how that is my fault.
This needs to be fixed
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@X-FREEZE-OFF-X_PSN said in 30 min cooldown because yall won't fix your game!?!?!:
@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in 30 min cooldown because yall won't fix your game!?!?!:
Wait. They have a penalty for dashboarding now?! That’s awesome.
Only in ranked Co-Op.
Boo.
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@X-FREEZE-OFF-X_PSN said in 30 min cooldown because yall won't fix your game!?!?!:
@HaveS0ul_XBL said in 30 min cooldown because yall won't fix your game!?!?!:
@The_Canuckler said in 30 min cooldown because yall won't fix your game!?!?!:
I also wonder how SDS is supposed to fix individuals connectivity issues. I’ve always wondered that.
Wait, what? In all seriousness, you're blaming every single person that gets caught in a freeze off? How? Imagine playing a 3 v 3 co op game & land in a freeze off...all 6 people are equally liable for this? What if 5 are having issues with their ISP?
Make this make sense for me. If you're wired on fiber 2 GB, with NAT as open as can be, how is that 1 out of 6's fault?
I'm a big SDS supporter & generally think many come down to harsh on a variety of things. 1 thing I'm still struggling to wrap my head around is freeze offs. It seems like an unacceptable outcome (especially with the slap in the face of the cool down timer. That was not the wisest customer service/quality of life improvement. It would have been to address freeze offs, or at least provide input on how to minimize/prevent them.)
They didn't implement the Cool Down period to help counter freeze offs. It was implemented because people complained that other people were quitting Co-Op games last year and when that person quit; the game would end.
So SDS decided to implement a counter to people quitting Co-Op games by implementing a college down period for the person who quits.
What they (SDS) didn't consider is how to distinguish a quit from an ACTIVE game and a person dashboarding, as that's the only way, to leave a freeze off.
So now when the Ranked Co-Op game freezes; the person that decides to dashboard because they don't want to sit in a freeze off also gets hit with a cool down penalty.
It (Cool Down Penalty) was a good move by SDS; but was not throughly tested, as with other aspects of the game, before release.
They just need to go in and delete the Cool Down code from the game. It's broken.
And if it is ever implemented into regular Ranked, BR, or Events; people will just wait it out for the other person to quit.
What they need to figure out how to code is if there is a set timeframe, during an online game where nothing happens, the game itself just ends and doesn't declare anyone the winner or loser.
Absolutely. Couldn't agree more. I LOVED the introduction of a cool down timer. It encourages players to stay, which I ALWAYS do......unless there's a doggone freezeoff. The nuance is what you said is spot on imo.
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I came back to the forums just to see if there was already a discussion going on about this.
As a co-op, only player with my partner, we cannot stand this cool down implementation.
We turned off cross play weeks ago, and yes, it does help with the freeze offs. But there is still the consistent, desyncing that occurs, when skipping the Pinch Hitting cutscene.
Got stuck in a 90 min. freeze off, the game ended out of nowhere, and I got saddled with us three hour cool down! This cannot be a feature in the game! No gamer should be punished from playing a game out for up to three hours! Period!
Until they can figure out all of the freezing issues and connectivity issues, the cool down must be removed. It is simply out of control.
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@B_WiseMan91_PSN said in 30 min cooldown because yall won't fix your game!?!?!:
I came back to the forums just to see if there was already a discussion going on about this.
As a co-op, only player with my partner, we cannot stand this cool down implementation.
We turned off cross play weeks ago, and yes, it does help with the freeze offs. But there is still the consistent, desyncing that occurs, when skipping the Pinch Hitting cutscene.
Got stuck in a 90 min. freeze off, the game ended out of nowhere, and I got saddled with us three hour cool down! This cannot be a feature in the game! No gamer should be punished from playing a game out for up to three hours! Period!
Until they can figure out all of the freezing issues and connectivity issues, the cool down must be removed. It is simply out of control.
This is my first year playing coop, and I absolutely love it. I already got the world series pack and I'm still looking forward to playing online with my buds.
This cooldown nonsense has completely ruined the whole thing. We played 2 games yesterday and they both froze. The first one we got a 30 min penalty, the second an hour. It's not our fault that the game froze! I'm not sitting there for hours waiting for my opponent to quit!
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Sounds like someone needs a cooldown in life.
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@SaveFarris_PSN said in 30 min cooldown because yall won't fix your game!?!?!:
Sounds like someone needs a cooldown in life.
Have I done somthing to upset you? Why are you being a troll?
If this bs cooldown was applied to regular ranked, br, or events then this entire forum would be livid.
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@go4stros25_PSN said in 30 min cooldown because yall won't fix your game!?!?!:
@SaveFarris_PSN said in 30 min cooldown because yall won't fix your game!?!?!:
Sounds like someone needs a cooldown in life.
Have I done somthing to upset you? Why are you being a troll?
If this bs cooldown was applied to regular ranked, br, or events then this entire forum would be livid.
I agree. Until SDS can sort out freezes vs actual quits in some capacity it is incredibly unfair to people to be punished for things that are no fault of their own.
I don't play coop but would be pssed right off if that was happening to me in ranked or events (I don't play BR lol)
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@go4stros25_PSN said in 30 min cooldown because yall won't fix your game!?!?!:
@SaveFarris_PSN said in 30 min cooldown because yall won't fix your game!?!?!:
Sounds like someone needs a cooldown in life.
Have I done somthing to upset you? Why are you being a troll?
If this bs cooldown was applied to regular ranked, br, or events then this entire forum would be livid.
mate that guy is brutal him and EatOut just ball wash each other on this forum - block em both and good riddance you know?
