McGwire and Sosa?
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@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in McGwire and Sosa?:
@SakAttack87_PSN said in McGwire and Sosa?:
@PAinPA_PSN said in McGwire and Sosa?:
@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in McGwire and Sosa?:
I’m pumped of this is true, and it looks like it is. Opens the door for Bonds, Clemens, etc. I’ve always wanted a Caminiti card, maybe we get it in the future.
Won't open the door for Bonds,him not being in games is his doing, the others though....
Yeah, I am seeing a lot of comments from people expecting this news to open the door for him to now come into the game as well, but don't think most understand that the situation between Bonds and MLB is way more complicated beyond steroids.
His godfather is already in the game. I’m sure Bonds can also appreciate the addition of Negro League storylines and legends as a way to educate younger fans. Things like that might go a long way to gaining his blessing.
No. there was an absolute war between him and the players association after the 73 hrs, not sure but I think it was about the batting titles he won it in 02 with 403 ABs and in 04 with 373 ABs cause pitchers didn't want to pitch to him and with the absurd amount of walks he had over 600 PAs each year, pissed off the players and I believe they filed a grievance with the league and tried to disqualify him for the batting titles, after that he removed himself from the players association and the games.his track record with the media wasn't any better.
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@PAinPA_PSN said in McGwire and Sosa?:
@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in McGwire and Sosa?:
@SakAttack87_PSN said in McGwire and Sosa?:
@PAinPA_PSN said in McGwire and Sosa?:
@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in McGwire and Sosa?:
I’m pumped of this is true, and it looks like it is. Opens the door for Bonds, Clemens, etc. I’ve always wanted a Caminiti card, maybe we get it in the future.
Won't open the door for Bonds,him not being in games is his doing, the others though....
Yeah, I am seeing a lot of comments from people expecting this news to open the door for him to now come into the game as well, but don't think most understand that the situation between Bonds and MLB is way more complicated beyond steroids.
His godfather is already in the game. I’m sure Bonds can also appreciate the addition of Negro League storylines and legends as a way to educate younger fans. Things like that might go a long way to gaining his blessing.
No. there was an absolute war between him and the players association after the 73 hrs, not sure but I think it was about the batting titles he won it in 02 with 403 ABs and in 04 with 373 ABs cause pitchers didn't want to pitch to him and with the absurd amount of walks he had over 600 PAs each year, pissed off the players and I believe they filed a grievance with the league and tried to disqualify him for the batting titles, after that he removed himself from the players association and the games.his track record with the media wasn't any better.
2 decades ago. A lot can change over time. Germany and Japan are US allies.
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If I had to speculate their best versions (99s), Sosa probably gets an Awards card for his MVP season in 1998 and McGwire probably will be a Milestone card for hitting 72.
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@SakAttack87_PSN said in McGwire and Sosa?:
If I had to speculate their best versions (99s), Sosa probably gets an Awards card for his MVP season in 1998 and McGwire probably will be a Milestone card for hitting 72.
He never hit 72 HR.
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@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in McGwire and Sosa?:
@PAinPA_PSN said in McGwire and Sosa?:
@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in McGwire and Sosa?:
@SakAttack87_PSN said in McGwire and Sosa?:
@PAinPA_PSN said in McGwire and Sosa?:
@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in McGwire and Sosa?:
I’m pumped of this is true, and it looks like it is. Opens the door for Bonds, Clemens, etc. I’ve always wanted a Caminiti card, maybe we get it in the future.
Won't open the door for Bonds,him not being in games is his doing, the others though....
Yeah, I am seeing a lot of comments from people expecting this news to open the door for him to now come into the game as well, but don't think most understand that the situation between Bonds and MLB is way more complicated beyond steroids.
His godfather is already in the game. I’m sure Bonds can also appreciate the addition of Negro League storylines and legends as a way to educate younger fans. Things like that might go a long way to gaining his blessing.
No. there was an absolute war between him and the players association after the 73 hrs, not sure but I think it was about the batting titles he won it in 02 with 403 ABs and in 04 with 373 ABs cause pitchers didn't want to pitch to him and with the absurd amount of walks he had over 600 PAs each year, pissed off the players and I believe they filed a grievance with the league and tried to disqualify him for the batting titles, after that he removed himself from the players association and the games.his track record with the media wasn't any better.
2 decades ago. A lot can change over time. Germany and Japan are US allies.
Hahaha, I mean if you’re gonna use a World War 2 reference, you definitely get some credit. I was thinking more along the lines of Eric Bischoff joined WWE and The Ultimate Warrior became a Hall of Famer. Oh and Ben Affleck and J-Lo got back together.
Actually, let’s just use yours.
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@Ericulous1_PSN said in McGwire and Sosa?:
@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in McGwire and Sosa?:
@PAinPA_PSN said in McGwire and Sosa?:
@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in McGwire and Sosa?:
@SakAttack87_PSN said in McGwire and Sosa?:
@PAinPA_PSN said in McGwire and Sosa?:
@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in McGwire and Sosa?:
I’m pumped of this is true, and it looks like it is. Opens the door for Bonds, Clemens, etc. I’ve always wanted a Caminiti card, maybe we get it in the future.
Won't open the door for Bonds,him not being in games is his doing, the others though....
Yeah, I am seeing a lot of comments from people expecting this news to open the door for him to now come into the game as well, but don't think most understand that the situation between Bonds and MLB is way more complicated beyond steroids.
His godfather is already in the game. I’m sure Bonds can also appreciate the addition of Negro League storylines and legends as a way to educate younger fans. Things like that might go a long way to gaining his blessing.
No. there was an absolute war between him and the players association after the 73 hrs, not sure but I think it was about the batting titles he won it in 02 with 403 ABs and in 04 with 373 ABs cause pitchers didn't want to pitch to him and with the absurd amount of walks he had over 600 PAs each year, pissed off the players and I believe they filed a grievance with the league and tried to disqualify him for the batting titles, after that he removed himself from the players association and the games.his track record with the media wasn't any better.
2 decades ago. A lot can change over time. Germany and Japan are US allies.
Hahaha, I mean if you’re gonna use a World War 2 reference, you definitely get some credit. I was thinking more along the lines of Eric Bischoff joined WWE and The Ultimate Warrior became a Hall of Famer. Oh and Ben Affleck and J-Lo got back together.
Actually, let’s just use yours.
And Affleck decided it was best for all of us that he never reprise his roles as Dare Devil or Batman again (well, after the new Flash movie comes out anyway)...that was kind of him.
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@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in McGwire and Sosa?:
@SakAttack87_PSN said in McGwire and Sosa?:
If I had to speculate their best versions (99s), Sosa probably gets an Awards card for his MVP season in 1998 and McGwire probably will be a Milestone card for hitting 72.
He never hit 72 HR.
Brain fart. 70.
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I like the WW2 reference, but we had and still have military forces in both countries.there also was forgiveness and friendship building during this.
Don't think there has been any of that with Bonds. hard to know for sure,all of them avoid talking about it.
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@PAinPA_PSN said in McGwire and Sosa?:
@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in McGwire and Sosa?:
@SakAttack87_PSN said in McGwire and Sosa?:
@PAinPA_PSN said in McGwire and Sosa?:
@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in McGwire and Sosa?:
I’m pumped of this is true, and it looks like it is. Opens the door for Bonds, Clemens, etc. I’ve always wanted a Caminiti card, maybe we get it in the future.
Won't open the door for Bonds,him not being in games is his doing, the others though....
Yeah, I am seeing a lot of comments from people expecting this news to open the door for him to now come into the game as well, but don't think most understand that the situation between Bonds and MLB is way more complicated beyond steroids.
His godfather is already in the game. I’m sure Bonds can also appreciate the addition of Negro League storylines and legends as a way to educate younger fans. Things like that might go a long way to gaining his blessing.
No. there was an absolute war between him and the players association after the 73 hrs, not sure but I think it was about the batting titles he won it in 02 with 403 ABs and in 04 with 373 ABs cause pitchers didn't want to pitch to him and with the absurd amount of walks he had over 600 PAs each year, pissed off the players and I believe they filed a grievance with the league and tried to disqualify him for the batting titles, after that he removed himself from the players association and the games.his track record with the media wasn't any better.
It’s pretty well known in baseball that he wasn’t a very liked teammate dating back to his ASU days. If he wasn’t the best player in baseball and Bobby’s son early in his career he might have been blackballed.
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@PAinPA_PSN said in McGwire and Sosa?:
I like the WW2 reference, but we had and still have military forces in both countries.there also was forgiveness and friendship building during this.
Don't think there has been any of that with Bonds. hard to know for sure,all of them avoid talking about it.
I don’t think military occupation and the Marshall Plan are necessary to get Bonds as a legend…just some good will.
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@SakAttack87_PSN said in McGwire and Sosa?:
@PAinPA_PSN said in McGwire and Sosa?:
@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in McGwire and Sosa?:
I’m pumped of this is true, and it looks like it is. Opens the door for Bonds, Clemens, etc. I’ve always wanted a Caminiti card, maybe we get it in the future.
Won't open the door for Bonds,him not being in games is his doing, the others though....
Yeah, I am seeing a lot of comments from people expecting this news to open the door for him to now come into the game as well, but don't think most understand that the situation between Bonds and MLB is way more complicated beyond steroids.
Exactly. Bonds always had exclusive rights to his name and likeness....which is how we ended up with Reggie Stocker. Even when he was playing, he refused to be in games.
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@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in McGwire and Sosa?:
@PAinPA_PSN said in McGwire and Sosa?:
I like the WW2 reference, but we had and still have military forces in both countries.there also was forgiveness and friendship building during this.
Don't think there has been any of that with Bonds. hard to know for sure,all of them avoid talking about it.
I don’t think military occupation and the Marshall Plan are necessary to get Bonds as a legend…just some good will.
My point exactly, I don't there has been any of that and don't think any of them are interested in it ( good will).
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@Easy_Duhz_It_ said in McGwire and Sosa?:
@SakAttack87_PSN said in McGwire and Sosa?:
@PAinPA_PSN said in McGwire and Sosa?:
@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in McGwire and Sosa?:
I’m pumped of this is true, and it looks like it is. Opens the door for Bonds, Clemens, etc. I’ve always wanted a Caminiti card, maybe we get it in the future.
Won't open the door for Bonds,him not being in games is his doing, the others though....
Yeah, I am seeing a lot of comments from people expecting this news to open the door for him to now come into the game as well, but don't think most understand that the situation between Bonds and MLB is way more complicated beyond steroids.
Exactly. Bonds always had exclusive rights to his name and likeness....which is how we ended up with Reggie Stocker. Even when he was playing, he refused to be in games.
He was in SEGA baseball games so its not like he was never in games.
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The commercial is still airing on Comedy Central. I just saw it.
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Can someone post a video of this?
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@nymets1987_PSN said in McGwire and Sosa?:
Can someone post a video of this?
maybe have a look one page ago (post #4)
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@nymets1987_PSN said in McGwire and Sosa?:
Can someone post a video of this?
@SakAttack87_PSN said in McGwire and Sosa?:
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@nymets1987_PSN said in McGwire and Sosa?:
Can someone post a video of this?
There is a twitter link in this thread that has the video.
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@TEXAS10PT_PSN said in McGwire and Sosa?:
@Easy_Duhz_It_ said in McGwire and Sosa?:
@SakAttack87_PSN said in McGwire and Sosa?:
@PAinPA_PSN said in McGwire and Sosa?:
@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in McGwire and Sosa?:
I’m pumped of this is true, and it looks like it is. Opens the door for Bonds, Clemens, etc. I’ve always wanted a Caminiti card, maybe we get it in the future.
Won't open the door for Bonds,him not being in games is his doing, the others though....
Yeah, I am seeing a lot of comments from people expecting this news to open the door for him to now come into the game as well, but don't think most understand that the situation between Bonds and MLB is way more complicated beyond steroids.
Exactly. Bonds always had exclusive rights to his name and likeness....which is how we ended up with Reggie Stocker. Even when he was playing, he refused to be in games.
He was in SEGA baseball games so its not like he was never in games.
And when he withdrew from the MLBPA in 2003 and took exclusive rights to his name and likeness, he refused to be in any games....
Before then, he didn't have a say.
So after MLB 2003, he didnt appear in any games while he was playing. Is that better?
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@Easy_Duhz_It_ said in McGwire and Sosa?:
@TEXAS10PT_PSN said in McGwire and Sosa?:
@Easy_Duhz_It_ said in McGwire and Sosa?:
@SakAttack87_PSN said in McGwire and Sosa?:
@PAinPA_PSN said in McGwire and Sosa?:
@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in McGwire and Sosa?:
I’m pumped of this is true, and it looks like it is. Opens the door for Bonds, Clemens, etc. I’ve always wanted a Caminiti card, maybe we get it in the future.
Won't open the door for Bonds,him not being in games is his doing, the others though....
Yeah, I am seeing a lot of comments from people expecting this news to open the door for him to now come into the game as well, but don't think most understand that the situation between Bonds and MLB is way more complicated beyond steroids.
Exactly. Bonds always had exclusive rights to his name and likeness....which is how we ended up with Reggie Stocker. Even when he was playing, he refused to be in games.
He was in SEGA baseball games so its not like he was never in games.
And when he withdrew from the MLBPA in 2003 and took exclusive rights to his name and likeness, he refused to be in any games....
Before then, he didn't have a say.
So after MLB 2003, he didnt appear in any games while he was playing. Is that better?
Yeah much better. If you tell the story, tell the whole story.