Alcantara wins Cy Young
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Congrats, knew you would be good after you were traded. Just not THIS good.
If Gallen finished top 5 that may make that dumb Ozuna trade one of the worst in the history of the game!
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Did he and Verlander get Supercharged?
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I'm not sure the Cardinals would have let him develop this way, his ERA was okish in 2018-2019, but everything else really wasn't, I imagine the Cards would have moved him to the pen. Miami had no reason not to let him work through it
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Agree, but be that as it may, they gave up 2 CY Young caliber aces in ONE TRADE for 2 years of an underachieving Ozuna.
That's p*ss, many GMs/Pobos have been canned for less
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@DoIHearBossMusic said in Alcantara wins Cy Young:
Agree, but be that as it may, they gave up 2 CY Young caliber aces in ONE TRADE for 2 years of an underachieving Ozuna.
That's p*ss, many GMs/Pobos have been canned for less
Too many Cardinals fans crying about that trade 5 years after it happened. You never know what's going to happen in a trade, especially when you're trading prospects. Go look at his minor league stats. There's nothing there to suggest that he would be a future Cy Young award winner. It is what it is.
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@DoIHearBossMusic said in Alcantara wins Cy Young:
Agree, but be that as it may, they gave up 2 CY Young caliber aces in ONE TRADE for 2 years of an underachieving Ozuna.
The Pirates are looking to this for inspiration.
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@DoIHearBossMusic said in Alcantara wins Cy Young:
Agree, but be that as it may, they gave up 2 CY Young caliber aces in ONE TRADE for 2 years of an underachieving Ozuna.
That's p*ss, many GMs/Pobos have been canned for less
Sorry, but this one play made the whole trade worth it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IlxnBiEsC4&t=13s
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Yeah well. The Dodgers traded away Pedro Martinez for Delino Deshields. Best not to harp on what might have been.
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@DoIHearBossMusic said in Alcantara wins Cy Young:
Congrats, knew you would be good after you were traded. Just not THIS good.
If Gallen finished top 5 that may make that dumb Ozuna trade one of the worst in the history of the game!
Rangers traded away Wilson Alvarez and some rookie named Samuel Sosa for Fred Manrique and the desiccated corpse of Harold Baines.
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I think Ryne Sandberg was a throw in or PTBNL when he was traded from Phillies to Cubs.
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Not to mention that the Dodgers agreed to trade Yordan Álvarez to the Astros for Josh Fields because Friedman thought they were asking for Yadier Álvarez.
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There are a lot of future cy young’s/mvp’s rotting away in trash organizations who just need that one breath of fresh air and scenery.
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@theBlindRhino said in Alcantara wins Cy Young:
Not to mention that the Dodgers agreed to trade Yordan Álvarez to the Astros for Josh Fields because Friedman thought they were asking for Yadier Álvarez.
Yeah that is a tough one
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@dbarmonstar_PSN said in Alcantara wins Cy Young:
@theBlindRhino said in Alcantara wins Cy Young:
Not to mention that the Dodgers agreed to trade Yordan Álvarez to the Astros for Josh Fields because Friedman thought they were asking for Yadier Álvarez.
Yeah that is a tough one
Yeah but Cards gave up TWO aces in one trade, TWO CY Young caliber arms for an avg OF, that is brutal lol
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@DoIHearBossMusic said in Alcantara wins Cy Young:
@dbarmonstar_PSN said in Alcantara wins Cy Young:
@theBlindRhino said in Alcantara wins Cy Young:
Not to mention that the Dodgers agreed to trade Yordan Álvarez to the Astros for Josh Fields because Friedman thought they were asking for Yadier Álvarez.
Yeah that is a tough one
Yeah but Cards gave up TWO aces in one trade, TWO CY Young caliber arms for an avg OF, that is brutal lol
Who was the other one?
Most fans liked the trade at the time. It's always easy to judge these things in hindsight. Did it end up being bad? Yes. But there was no way to predict that ahead of time.
Let's not forget that the GM you said should have been fired for that move also managed to get Goldschmidt for almost nothing and actually got Colorado to pay them to take Arenado.
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@DoIHearBossMusic said in Alcantara wins Cy Young:
@dbarmonstar_PSN said in Alcantara wins Cy Young:
@theBlindRhino said in Alcantara wins Cy Young:
Not to mention that the Dodgers agreed to trade Yordan Álvarez to the Astros for Josh Fields because Friedman thought they were asking for Yadier Álvarez.
Yeah that is a tough one
Yeah but Cards gave up TWO aces in one trade, TWO CY Young caliber arms for an avg OF, that is brutal lol
I am not saying one is worst than the other. In hindsight yes but if they stayed where they were would they have developed in the same way or be used in same way. Look at Chris Taylor and Max Muncy, Taylor in Sea was garbage and Muncy the same in Oak, Muncy was not even in the Majors when the Dodgers sign him. Players change teams some perform better and others don't. The Mets gave up on Justin Turner because of injuries. It all just happen to work out for the dodgers. Trades will not always work out. Look at what DET could have been if they held on to there pitchers, I think it was something like 5 pitchers they had that went on to win Cy Young awards.
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