Has there been a bigger snub
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Nolan Ryan never getting the Cy Young.
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@the_dragon1912 said in Has there been a bigger snub:
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@go4stros25_psn said in Has there been a bigger snub:
@the_dragon1912 said in Has there been a bigger snub:
@go4stros25_psn said in Has there been a bigger snub:
@the_dragon1912 said in Has there been a bigger snub:
3 pitchers were snubbed for the atrocity that was Rick Porcello's Cy Young in 2016
I remember that year. Britton was a leading story all year, ended the year only giving up 4 runs the entire season. Curious who you thought the 3 snubbed pitchers were. I would say verlander and britton for sure. who's your 3rd? Kluber?
Yeah Kluber. Sale might even have been a better choice than Porcello. It's I'm fairly certain the only time in the history of CY young voting that someone that had more than 1 or 2 less 1st place votes won. Verlander had 14 first place votes to Porcello's 8. Thanks to 2 AL east beat writer losers that left Verlander off the ballot to give Porcello a chance
I can't stand baseball writers. So much of baseball is truly beyond me. Unathletic writers controlling awards and turning the HOF ballots into popularity contest and rumor mills, fans voting for the all stars, the top 2 teams having higher salaries than the bottom 2/3 of the league combined. Crazy game that somtimes feels like it hasn't adapted to the modern age imo.
Baseball is slow. The game is slow. Any changes, no matter how much sense they make are slow. Even something as simple as netting down the lines in the stands took years. Financially these top market teams make these bottom 2/3 payroll teams profitable. So the owners aren’t in a rush to change that. Don’t even mention a salary cap. That’s taboo.
League needs a Salary floor. The whole small market/big market nonsense is just an excuse for owners to be cheap. There is no such thing as small market teams in anything but baseball
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Yeah in 2000 Coors field legitimately was different. They have changed it up since then. They didnt start the "humidor [censored]" until 2002. Which means breaking pitches lost most there effectiveness and even FB's would lose 3 in of break.
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@thegoaler_psn said in Has there been a bigger snub:
Iron Maiden not being in the 'Rock And Roll HOF '
Complete joke.Best post if thread. Finally putting Priest in this year is first step to fixing that mistake.
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@nflman2033_mlbts said in Has there been a bigger snub:
@thegoaler_psn said in Has there been a bigger snub:
Iron Maiden not being in the 'Rock And Roll HOF '
Complete joke.Best post if thread. Finally putting Priest in this year is first step to fixing that mistake.
I heard Priest gets in from some special category or something.
Bigger joke are The Eurythmics. I love Annie Lennox, but how are they worthy of HOF status? -
@the_dragon1912 said in Has there been a bigger snub:
3 pitchers were snubbed for the atrocity that was Rick Porcello's Cy Young in 2016
I still can’t figure for the life of me how that even happened
But here’s a good snub: 1917 not winning best picture at the oscars in 2019. Lost to Parasite.
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I still think braun beating out just barely short 40/40 kemp was a joke. I believe braun had 8 points higher average but kemp had homeruns, RBI, WAR, led the league in runs, and SB. then a few months later braun was caught on HGH which is a travesty
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The 1990 AL Cy Young
Bob Welch - 27 wins, 2.95 ERA, 2 CG, 127 Ks, 125 ERA+
Roger Clemens - 21 wins, 1.93 ERA, 7 CG (4 were shutouts), 209 Ks, 211 ERA+Even leaving out ERA+, Clemens was better and should have won. Welch wasn't even the best pitcher on the Athletics, but since he had 27 wins he won the Cy Young.
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@jediel1823_psn said in Has there been a bigger snub:
The 1990 AL Cy Young
Bob Welch - 27 wins, 2.95 ERA, 2 CG, 127 Ks, 125 ERA+
Roger Clemens - 21 wins, 1.93 ERA, 7 CG (4 were shutouts), 209 Ks, 211 ERA+Even leaving out ERA+, Clemens was better and should have won. Welch wasn't even the best pitcher on the Athletics, but since he had 27 wins he won the Cy Young.
Wins used to be the end all be all for baseball writers. Now we all understand that wins have little to do with the pitcher and more to do with run support.
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Some people say Matt Holliday should've won it in 2007, but narrative and quirks play a huge role in MVP votes. J-Roll being in the 4/20 club (20 HR, 20 SB, 20 2B, 20 3B) and him calling his shot that the Phillies would win the East (against the stacked and favored Mets) and then willing the team to that title was a big story.
As for MVP Snubs, look at the 1952 NL MVP votes. Hank Sauer won it over Robin Roberts despite Roberts being easily the best player in the NL that year. Even back then people were baffled, and assumed that the voters just had their secretaries vote in their place.
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