Bots ruining the market?
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No tinfoil hat my buddy had a guy on discord who made a site that could just auto flip cards on 21 basically just all the stubs you want at the push of a button
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@themoshow___psn said in Bots ruining the market?:
@suntlacrimae50_mlbts said in Bots ruining the market?:
My gut response is, "tinfoil hats." But...maybe?
And flipping SUCKS. So if there are bots shooing you away from that, be thankful while being resentful. (Of course, kidding -- you do what you enjoy.)
flipping doesnt suck, the people who already capped their stub count will tell you its not sucky, its actually the same.
I meant the activity itself, not how the market is this year compared to previous years.
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@buckybarnes2276_xbl said in Bots ruining the market?:
No tinfoil hat my buddy had a guy on discord who made a site that could just auto flip cards on 21 basically just all the stubs you want at the push of a button
Yep. Im on that discord channel. It's real. The guy made a google chrome extension/plugin that basically does all the work for you. You just have to click a couple buttons.
EDIT: Its out for 22 now too.
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Omg can people of this forum cry any harder this year
RNG - crying
Timing - crying
Bots on the market- crying
TA gone- crying
Margins- crying -
@cdnmoneymaker93_nsw said in Bots ruining the market?:
Omg can people of this forum cry any harder this year
RNG - crying
Timing - crying
Bots on the market- crying
TA gone- crying
Margins- cryingSees people crying - crying
Welcome to the club!
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@cdnmoneymaker93_nsw said in Bots ruining the market?:
Omg can people of this forum cry any harder this year
RNG - crying
Timing - crying
Bots on the market- crying
TA gone- crying
Margins- cryingBoy, every post from you is the same. Since I have seen the same one 100x, I don’t see the point of needing to see the next 100. you have now made the elite blocked list. Congrats.
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@oreorockstar_psn said in Bots ruining the market?:
@cdnmoneymaker93_nsw said in Bots ruining the market?:
Omg can people of this forum cry any harder this year
RNG - crying
Timing - crying
Bots on the market- crying
TA gone- crying
Margins- cryingBoy, every post from you is the same. Since I have seen the same one 100x, I don’t see the point of needing to see the next 100. you have now made the elite blocked list. Congrats.
It's a true honor one I will cherish
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Bots??? You do know I can go on XBox and create a Cronus script to continually put buy orders in for a single card. It’s not very hard either. Highly doubt bots (drone computers) are being used. It would cost too much money to be worth the hassle. Whereas a simple script costs nothing.
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@aaronjw76_psn said in Bots ruining the market?:
One thing that's become apparent is the use of bots in the market and they are ruining it for everyone else.
How can I tell? Massive amounts of buy/sell orders on cards that, traditionally, never had such larger order quantities on them. They may have had a lot of individual orders or a handful at different amounts but we're into the 10-15+ on these cards. These aren't your 100 stub cards either. 3 and 4K cards are having these large buy/sell order quantities on them that, like I said, never happened in the past.
Additionally, on cards where you, traditionally, might have large buy orders it's gotten worse even when there are almost no reason to have them - only few opportunities for exchanges so far this year but why are cards sitting with 300 buy orders at 5 stubs or 300 sell orders at 30 stubs? No single person is wasting their time doing that. They are using a bot.
Yes I'm a flipper so this impacts me a bit (im still in a position to have collections done today or tomorrow) but ultimately it impacts everyone.
Also, the late night transfer of stubs using obscure diamond items like sponsorships are growing it seems.
It could be bots, but I know you can launch the mobile app and rattle off 50 sell/buy orders in a matter of 30 second simply by repeatedly mashing "finalize order" Infinitely faster than using in game market
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If you have the patience for it; buying 1000 commons for 10 stubs then listing them for 40 stubs each is still 26,000 profit. Do that once a week and it's passive income of around 100k/month.
They need a cap for orders. 200 max.
Amd they need to go back to the old qs values. Just my opinion, but everyone being able to sell 80s for 1000 each meant everyone had more stubs for the market
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I'm not a conspiracy guy, but for fun I was still flipping in 21 way past the life cycle ended and it was moving very rapidly. I'd make 100k in 10 mins. That can't be organic can it? Asking for a friend...no I don't need a tin foil hat. Also, can we come up with a new cliche for this concept?
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Every transaction is taking 10% of the stubs out of circulation. The more the merrier I say. That keeps my stub value higher as I don't flip. I'm more an IRA type. Long term, maintaining inventory, selling when needed.
The app is working as intended and is a great feature of the game. Don't cry because you aren't making money anymore. It doesn't wear well folks.
I'm a huge fan of capping orders at 100 or 150.
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@hoboadam_psn said in Bots ruining the market?:
Every transaction is taking 10% of the stubs out of circulation. The more the merrier I say. That keeps my stub value higher as I don't flip. I'm more an IRA type. Long term, maintaining inventory, selling when needed.
The app is working as intended and is a great feature of the game. Don't cry because you aren't making money anymore. It doesn't wear well folks.
I'm a huge fan of capping orders at 100 or 150.
There's still stubs to be made. The problem is too many people are watching YouTube videos titled "from 20k to 200k stubs in 1 hour!!" I guess it never crossed their mind that those videos are heavily edited.
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This will be the first year I won't be able to flip cards to finish collections. Last year I completed LS in the first month and able to make 50k-75k a day easily even just on equipment. This year you can hardly make 50 stubs flipping anything.
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@cdnmoneymaker93_nsw said in Bots ruining the market?:
Omg can people of this forum cry any harder this year
RNG - crying
Timing - crying
Bots on the market- crying
TA gone- crying
Margins- cryingI dont know if they are bots but I struggle to imagine someone spending the time to sell 1k or more cards at a 4 stub margin.
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@ericulous1_psn said in Bots ruining the market?:
I'm not a conspiracy guy, but for fun I was still flipping in 21 way past the life cycle ended and it was moving very rapidly. I'd make 100k in 10 mins. That can't be organic can it? Asking for a friend...no I don't need a tin foil hat. Also, can we come up with a new cliche for this concept?
That is what organic looks like. The end of the year the there are fewer players and no need for Bots. Those folks are already done playing.
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@arizona_squatch said in Bots ruining the market?:
@buckybarnes2276_xbl said in Bots ruining the market?:
No tinfoil hat my buddy had a guy on discord who made a site that could just auto flip cards on 21 basically just all the stubs you want at the push of a button
Yep. Im on that discord channel. It's real. The guy made a google chrome extension/plugin that basically does all the work for you. You just have to click a couple buttons.
EDIT: Its out for 22 now too.
I'm still waiting for my script lol
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After what happened yesterdat i put a buy in for Trout at 210k and it filled a last couple of hours
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@def266_psn said in Bots ruining the market?:
After what happened yesterdat i put a buy in for Trout at 210k and it filled a last couple of hours
I sold Sherz for 125k, bought him back for 65, sold him again for 80.
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I don’t see anywhere there are bots. I’ve put my order on the wrong side of the buy/sell and have had about 10 seconds to fix it before somebody bought my card for one stub more than the current bid. Meaning the 22,000-19000 gap had a buy now at 19001 and I didn’t go through. A bot would snipe that within a second.
And like mentioned you can literally just click a button and keep putting in the same order on the app. I would assume people use multiple accounts to have more orders available but that’s a whole other thing.
