This is why we complain
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@jacksonvance35 said in This is why we complain:
@eatyum_mlbts said in This is why we complain:
@jacksonvance35 said in This is why we complain:
@eatyum_mlbts said in This is why we complain:
The only way to make it truly like 17 as you described is all bad PCI is not hits, and all good PCI is hits, otherwise BS wins or losses will happen. And 17 wasn't like that way.
All swings outside of the pci should be swings and misses. This is how you solve it.
And then you get complaints about "This was in the PCI, how was this a foul ball?" etc etc.
Also you have to consider the casuals because SDS has to consider the casuals. There has to be a compromise somewhere
Foul balls to the lines would be determined by timing, foul balls straight back would be the balls that are split between inside and outside the pci, or just on the edge.
I’m aware casuals would struggle and obviously pci sizes in general would have to increase slightly. This would also solve all of the people complaining about the home runs as balanced lineups would be far more important just like real life. As for casuals, they can remain just that. Casual. Ranked is a competitive mode and I personally value competitive integrity. I don’t say all this to be a griper or whiner, I’m just putting my two cents in for what would make this game truly competitive. The game we have been playing is no where near competitive.
You can say that, but casuals don't have that same view, they want to play ranked, and SDS can't just ignore that.
SDS doesn't want this game to be a "truly competitive" experience, I don't think that was ever their goal. They aren't trying to be Rainbow Six Siege here.
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@eatyum_mlbts said in This is why we complain:
@jacksonvance35 said in This is why we complain:
@eatyum_mlbts said in This is why we complain:
@jacksonvance35 said in This is why we complain:
@eatyum_mlbts said in This is why we complain:
The only way to make it truly like 17 as you described is all bad PCI is not hits, and all good PCI is hits, otherwise BS wins or losses will happen. And 17 wasn't like that way.
All swings outside of the pci should be swings and misses. This is how you solve it.
And then you get complaints about "This was in the PCI, how was this a foul ball?" etc etc.
Also you have to consider the casuals because SDS has to consider the casuals. There has to be a compromise somewhere
Foul balls to the lines would be determined by timing, foul balls straight back would be the balls that are split between inside and outside the pci, or just on the edge.
I’m aware casuals would struggle and obviously pci sizes in general would have to increase slightly. This would also solve all of the people complaining about the home runs as balanced lineups would be far more important just like real life. As for casuals, they can remain just that. Casual. Ranked is a competitive mode and I personally value competitive integrity. I don’t say all this to be a griper or whiner, I’m just putting my two cents in for what would make this game truly competitive. The game we have been playing is no where near competitive.
You can say that, but casuals don't have that same view, they want to play ranked, and SDS can't just ignore that.
SDS doesn't want this game to be a "truly competitive" experience, I don't think that was ever their goal. They aren't trying to be Rainbow Six Siege here.
And that’s completely okay. Just don’t market it as competitive
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@jacksonvance35 said in This is why we complain:
@eatyum_mlbts said in This is why we complain:
@jacksonvance35 said in This is why we complain:
@eatyum_mlbts said in This is why we complain:
@jacksonvance35 said in This is why we complain:
@eatyum_mlbts said in This is why we complain:
The only way to make it truly like 17 as you described is all bad PCI is not hits, and all good PCI is hits, otherwise BS wins or losses will happen. And 17 wasn't like that way.
All swings outside of the pci should be swings and misses. This is how you solve it.
And then you get complaints about "This was in the PCI, how was this a foul ball?" etc etc.
Also you have to consider the casuals because SDS has to consider the casuals. There has to be a compromise somewhere
Foul balls to the lines would be determined by timing, foul balls straight back would be the balls that are split between inside and outside the pci, or just on the edge.
I’m aware casuals would struggle and obviously pci sizes in general would have to increase slightly. This would also solve all of the people complaining about the home runs as balanced lineups would be far more important just like real life. As for casuals, they can remain just that. Casual. Ranked is a competitive mode and I personally value competitive integrity. I don’t say all this to be a griper or whiner, I’m just putting my two cents in for what would make this game truly competitive. The game we have been playing is no where near competitive.
You can say that, but casuals don't have that same view, they want to play ranked, and SDS can't just ignore that.
SDS doesn't want this game to be a "truly competitive" experience, I don't think that was ever their goal. They aren't trying to be Rainbow Six Siege here.
And that’s completely okay. Just don’t market it as competitive
Good luck convincing them on that. Competitive isn't some set in stone meaning. You can compete against others in chess, and you can compete against other in Yahtzee. Yahtzee takes a little strategy, but you are dependent on literal dice, technically still a competition.
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@ikasnu_psn said in This is why we complain:
@eatyum_mlbts said in This is why we complain:
@jacksonvance35 said in This is why we complain:
@eatyum_mlbts said in This is why we complain:
The only way to make it truly like 17 as you described is all bad PCI is not hits, and all good PCI is hits, otherwise BS wins or losses will happen. And 17 wasn't like that way.
All swings outside of the pci should be swings and misses. This is how you solve it.
And then you get complaints about "This was in the PCI, how was this a foul ball?" etc etc.
Also you have to consider the casuals because SDS has to consider the casuals. There has to be a compromise somewhere
Don't you understand that only the 900+ WS club have valid opinions????
These gameplay issues have literally no effect on dudes that go 761-5 against the CPU every year. So yeah the 900 clubs opinions are a lot more valid.
It’s just dumb excuses from the heard of cows like how online franchise can’t come back because they we’d get freeze offs!!! Man, those guys really hit the nail on the head huh?
When you get offline players coming up with reasons why it can’t happen, you have contradictions like that last statement. If swings inside are hits, and swings outside are misses, the arguement people will start screaming “this is inside why isn’t it a hit” doesn’t exist. Because it is a hit. And it doesnt matter how bad you are, it’s just a contradiction. You could be the worst player on the planet. It still doesn’t make sense.
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@chrono_omega_psn said in This is why we complain:
Played BR just to get the 120 point ballin pack. Won 3-0 so why am I complaining? I had 4 hits on all good swings and a few that should’ve been rewarded but it’s baseball not every swing is a tank or touching grass. Opponent has 5 hits not one of them good and all out of the zone. Do you see now? I’ll say this I never had this thought on 17 that I deserved a win or loss. If I lost it was all me and if I won it was all me, 18 and onwards is where I genuinely believe the game started this bs.
You’ll get Banned for truth… 1 have up 15 hits and 12 were weak rollers outside the zone or on bad contact a game ago…they always seem to conclude in a bombs batter later… i almost want to intentionally walk everyone after a few weak hits bc I know no matter where I throw it will be a bomb…. It’s absolute jokes. This dude has sub Mendoza line avg and kept hitting roller after roller after roller then tanked a slider 8 inches off the plate … I mean come on, poor coding
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@ikasnu_psn said in This is why we complain:
@eatyum_mlbts said in This is why we complain:
@jacksonvance35 said in This is why we complain:
@eatyum_mlbts said in This is why we complain:
The only way to make it truly like 17 as you described is all bad PCI is not hits, and all good PCI is hits, otherwise BS wins or losses will happen. And 17 wasn't like that way.
All swings outside of the pci should be swings and misses. This is how you solve it.
And then you get complaints about "This was in the PCI, how was this a foul ball?" etc etc.
Also you have to consider the casuals because SDS has to consider the casuals. There has to be a compromise somewhere
Don't you understand that only the 900+ WS club have valid opinions????
No need for subs lol
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Take the game for what it is. Sometimes it goes your way, sometimes it doesn't. Just like baseball. Just like life.
The game has it's flaws, we all know this. We've known this since '18, so either accept it for what it is or move on and find a new hobby. The crying and whining every single year by the same people is laughable at this point.
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@jonblaze2424_psn said in This is why we complain:
Take the game for what it is. Sometimes it goes your way, sometimes it doesn't. Just like baseball. Just like life.
The game has it's flaws, we all know this. We've known this since '18, so either accept it for what it is or move on and find a new hobby. The crying and whining every single year by the same people is laughable at this point.
Wait, you just whined and cried about people whining and crying. Interesting.
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Remember that hit by Luis Gonzalez off Mariano Rivera in the World Series. Jammed him good and it was still a hit… that’s baseball.
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@balsamicarrow88 said in This is why we complain:
This game is a disgrace. I am embarrassed to openly admit I own this game, I wouldn’t even recommend this game to my worst enemy.
And yet you are here still playing? Way to stick it to the man my dude
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@balsamicarrow88 said in This is why we complain:
@jonblaze2424_psn said in This is why we complain:
Take the game for what it is. Sometimes it goes your way, sometimes it doesn't. Just like baseball. Just like life.
The game has it's flaws, we all know this. We've known this since '18, so either accept it for what it is or move on and find a new hobby. The crying and whining every single year by the same people is laughable at this point.
Wait, you just whined and cried about people whining and crying. Interesting.
Not necessarily bud, it was a simple statement. Just go back and look at your last 344 posts, then you'll understand what whining and crying looks like.
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@jonblaze2424_psn said in This is why we complain:
@balsamicarrow88 said in This is why we complain:
@jonblaze2424_psn said in This is why we complain:
Take the game for what it is. Sometimes it goes your way, sometimes it doesn't. Just like baseball. Just like life.
The game has it's flaws, we all know this. We've known this since '18, so either accept it for what it is or move on and find a new hobby. The crying and whining every single year by the same people is laughable at this point.
Wait, you just whined and cried about people whining and crying. Interesting.
Not necessarily bud, it was a simple statement. Just go back and look at your last 344 posts, then you'll understand what whining and crying looks like.
And we also don’t think we are whining and crying. See how that works? Try again!
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@cdnmoneymaker93_nsw said in This is why we complain:
@balsamicarrow88 said in This is why we complain:
This game is a disgrace. I am embarrassed to openly admit I own this game, I wouldn’t even recommend this game to my worst enemy.
And yet you are here still playing? Way to stick it to the man my dude
I will voice my opinion always. No one will ever stop me.
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@jacksonvance35 said in This is why we complain:
@eatyum_mlbts said in This is why we complain:
@jacksonvance35 said in This is why we complain:
@eatyum_mlbts said in This is why we complain:
The only way to make it truly like 17 as you described is all bad PCI is not hits, and all good PCI is hits, otherwise BS wins or losses will happen. And 17 wasn't like that way.
All swings outside of the pci should be swings and misses. This is how you solve it.
And then you get complaints about "This was in the PCI, how was this a foul ball?" etc etc.
Also you have to consider the casuals because SDS has to consider the casuals. There has to be a compromise somewhere
Foul balls to the lines would be determined by timing, foul balls straight back would be the balls that are split between inside and outside the pci, or just on the edge.
I’m aware casuals would struggle and obviously pci sizes in general would have to increase slightly. This would also solve all of the people complaining about the home runs as balanced lineups would be far more important just like real life. As for casuals, they can remain just that. Casual. Ranked is a competitive mode and I personally value competitive integrity. I don’t say all this to be a griper or whiner, I’m just putting my two cents in for what would make this game truly competitive. The game we have been playing is no where near competitive.
Sounds reasonable. I'm a VERY average player, can max out about low-800's if I get on a good streak, but I can admit that outer PCI is a huge crutch that keeps at bats going. Like you said, K's would balloon if they got rid of it, so increasing inner PCI would be necessary.
My biggest complaint is that line drives are far too often hit right at fielders -- ridiculously too often. I assume it's just the way the programming is triggering outs, but it's very frustrating to see so often. Hit variety needs a massive upgrade.
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@suntlacrimae50_mlbts said in This is why we complain:
@jacksonvance35 said in This is why we complain:
@eatyum_mlbts said in This is why we complain:
@jacksonvance35 said in This is why we complain:
@eatyum_mlbts said in This is why we complain:
The only way to make it truly like 17 as you described is all bad PCI is not hits, and all good PCI is hits, otherwise BS wins or losses will happen. And 17 wasn't like that way.
All swings outside of the pci should be swings and misses. This is how you solve it.
And then you get complaints about "This was in the PCI, how was this a foul ball?" etc etc.
Also you have to consider the casuals because SDS has to consider the casuals. There has to be a compromise somewhere
Foul balls to the lines would be determined by timing, foul balls straight back would be the balls that are split between inside and outside the pci, or just on the edge.
I’m aware casuals would struggle and obviously pci sizes in general would have to increase slightly. This would also solve all of the people complaining about the home runs as balanced lineups would be far more important just like real life. As for casuals, they can remain just that. Casual. Ranked is a competitive mode and I personally value competitive integrity. I don’t say all this to be a griper or whiner, I’m just putting my two cents in for what would make this game truly competitive. The game we have been playing is no where near competitive.
Sounds reasonable. I'm a VERY average player, can max out about low-800's if I get on a good streak, but I can admit that outer PCI is a huge crutch that keeps at bats going. Like you said, K's would balloon if they got rid of it, so increasing inner PCI would be necessary.
My biggest complaint is that line drives are far too often hit right at fielders -- ridiculously too often. I assume it's just the way the programming is triggering outs, but it's very frustrating to see so often. Hit variety needs a massive upgrade.
I don’t think hit variety is a real problem. I think when the hall is squared up it needs to be a hit, not decide to die 200 feet from the wall
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@jacksonvance35 said in This is why we complain:
@suntlacrimae50_mlbts said in This is why we complain:
@jacksonvance35 said in This is why we complain:
@eatyum_mlbts said in This is why we complain:
@jacksonvance35 said in This is why we complain:
@eatyum_mlbts said in This is why we complain:
The only way to make it truly like 17 as you described is all bad PCI is not hits, and all good PCI is hits, otherwise BS wins or losses will happen. And 17 wasn't like that way.
All swings outside of the pci should be swings and misses. This is how you solve it.
And then you get complaints about "This was in the PCI, how was this a foul ball?" etc etc.
Also you have to consider the casuals because SDS has to consider the casuals. There has to be a compromise somewhere
Foul balls to the lines would be determined by timing, foul balls straight back would be the balls that are split between inside and outside the pci, or just on the edge.
I’m aware casuals would struggle and obviously pci sizes in general would have to increase slightly. This would also solve all of the people complaining about the home runs as balanced lineups would be far more important just like real life. As for casuals, they can remain just that. Casual. Ranked is a competitive mode and I personally value competitive integrity. I don’t say all this to be a griper or whiner, I’m just putting my two cents in for what would make this game truly competitive. The game we have been playing is no where near competitive.
Sounds reasonable. I'm a VERY average player, can max out about low-800's if I get on a good streak, but I can admit that outer PCI is a huge crutch that keeps at bats going. Like you said, K's would balloon if they got rid of it, so increasing inner PCI would be necessary.
My biggest complaint is that line drives are far too often hit right at fielders -- ridiculously too often. I assume it's just the way the programming is triggering outs, but it's very frustrating to see so often. Hit variety needs a massive upgrade.
I don’t think hit variety is a real problem. I think when the hall is squared up it needs to be a hit, not decide to die 200 feet from the wall
Sorry, can't agree with that 100%. Squared up balls should be hits MORE OFTEN in competitive mode, but surely not always. The % needs to increase by 10-15% I'd say for players to feel like input matters more than RNG in online play.
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@suntlacrimae50_mlbts said in This is why we complain:
@jacksonvance35 said in This is why we complain:
@suntlacrimae50_mlbts said in This is why we complain:
@jacksonvance35 said in This is why we complain:
@eatyum_mlbts said in This is why we complain:
@jacksonvance35 said in This is why we complain:
@eatyum_mlbts said in This is why we complain:
The only way to make it truly like 17 as you described is all bad PCI is not hits, and all good PCI is hits, otherwise BS wins or losses will happen. And 17 wasn't like that way.
All swings outside of the pci should be swings and misses. This is how you solve it.
And then you get complaints about "This was in the PCI, how was this a foul ball?" etc etc.
Also you have to consider the casuals because SDS has to consider the casuals. There has to be a compromise somewhere
Foul balls to the lines would be determined by timing, foul balls straight back would be the balls that are split between inside and outside the pci, or just on the edge.
I’m aware casuals would struggle and obviously pci sizes in general would have to increase slightly. This would also solve all of the people complaining about the home runs as balanced lineups would be far more important just like real life. As for casuals, they can remain just that. Casual. Ranked is a competitive mode and I personally value competitive integrity. I don’t say all this to be a griper or whiner, I’m just putting my two cents in for what would make this game truly competitive. The game we have been playing is no where near competitive.
Sounds reasonable. I'm a VERY average player, can max out about low-800's if I get on a good streak, but I can admit that outer PCI is a huge crutch that keeps at bats going. Like you said, K's would balloon if they got rid of it, so increasing inner PCI would be necessary.
My biggest complaint is that line drives are far too often hit right at fielders -- ridiculously too often. I assume it's just the way the programming is triggering outs, but it's very frustrating to see so often. Hit variety needs a massive upgrade.
I don’t think hit variety is a real problem. I think when the hall is squared up it needs to be a hit, not decide to die 200 feet from the wall
Sorry, can't agree with that 100%. Squared up balls should be hits MORE OFTEN in competitive mode, but surely not always. The % needs to increase by 10-15% I'd say for players to feel like input matters more than RNG in online play.
I misspoke and think we agree more than it appears. My gripe I believe is with changes made to launch angles this year. I am popping out consistently on balls within the pci, this should not be the case. If it is driven to the track for an out or caught on a line I’m significantly less frustrated than when it goes straight up
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@eatyum_mlbts said in This is why we complain:
@jacksonvance35 said in This is why we complain:
@eatyum_mlbts said in This is why we complain:
The only way to make it truly like 17 as you described is all bad PCI is not hits, and all good PCI is hits, otherwise BS wins or losses will happen. And 17 wasn't like that way.
All swings outside of the pci should be swings and misses. This is how you solve it.
And then you get complaints about "This was in the PCI, how was this a foul ball?" etc etc.
Also you have to consider the casuals because SDS has to consider the casuals. There has to be a compromise somewhere
As a religious player of another series that alot of casuals whine about(NHL), I second this opinion. Casuals are unfortunately where they make their big quick bucks, though. Little Timmy or Down on his Luck Dan buy the game at release, pour the money into it to get the god squad, then stop playing by the ASG.
It's an unfortunate reality that casuals dictate alot of how games are produced and play nowadays
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@get_worked249_psn said in This is why we complain:
Remember that hit by Luis Gonzalez off Mariano Rivera in the World Series. Jammed him good and it was still a hit… that’s baseball.
And this is a video game....not baseball. 98% of the fan base cant hit a 93 mph fastball in real life.
Games freeze because it's a video game
Mantle playing with Trout because it's a video game.
Created stadiums with dinosaurs...because it's a video game.
Unrealistic ball physics because it's a video game.
We unlock and collect pretty much the same players every year....because......its a video game and fomo
This is a video game.
Go to your local college find the coach ask for a tryout and show him your record in the show and let him watch your approach during a BP session in the show......
Kinda changes your view on this being.....baseball
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@jacksonvance35 said in This is why we complain:
@eatyum_mlbts said in This is why we complain:
The only way to make it truly like 17 as you described is all bad PCI is not hits, and all good PCI is hits, otherwise BS wins or losses will happen. And 17 wasn't like that way.
All swings outside of the pci should be swings and misses. This is how you solve it.
Back in the day when bunt cheese was prevalent around I think 15 with Puig on the cover people that are contact swinging now would literally bunt and steal every at bat because otherwise they would strike out or get sawed off every at bat. I guess SDS figures they will retain more players this way.
OP is right though. I’m on an 8-0 run currently and one of my games I got up like 6-0 and my opponent was bunt dancing and contact swing fouling anything I could possibly throw. After like ten fouls it gave him one of those hanging slider pitch animations for a no doubt bomb. I mean I’m still destroying the guy but it made me feel gross for the state of the game.
