Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?
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@kwikpoppa_psn said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
DD is not about baseball or how it is actually played,its about CHEESE and how to cheat your way to victory most of the time
From a player standpoint, yes I suppose, but Sony sees it as a way to take advantage of human psychology and increase their revue 10-fold all the while not reinvesting some of it to improve the product.
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Indeed it is an egotistical goldmine, with as little human participation as possible a remarkably solid baseball experience. What 22 offers will be not very different.Online play will remain unchanged mostly because the issues in question must be dealt with as PSN issues and not The Shows . Freeze outs for instance .Is this done because of programming issues in the game softwre or by using outside the game procedures. Its too easy to pop in and out of the ongoing games and use outside programs .Like Zen Chronis or whatever.SDS or no other game producer can control this and it is pretty much rampant across the board on PSN gaming.So any one game in doubt puts your whole history in doubt and records mean didley
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lol I like that one.."Diamond Dummies" I like that one..I gatta use it. Yeah those pokimon card collecting default pitch speed waiting for the next stub sale pizza pocket eating casuals.
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@rosco-1up_xbl said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
@ericulous1_psn said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
@rosco-1up_xbl said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
@ericulous1_psn said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
@greedyg103_xbl said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
@rosco-1up_xbl said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
@greedyg103_xbl said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
If they actually significantly upgraded the presentation, Diamond Dynasty would benefit the least due to the presentation being locked to fast play. With that said, all modes will benefit greatly as presentation has been severely lacking.
I hope you're right, but was there any part of the DD presentation that the DD players or influencers wanted to change? If so, I'd argue that might get precedent.
No worries there brother. They aren’t the least bit concerned with presentation, or graphics. They just want more legends
You obviously don't read the extensive complaints in the DD section about gameplay.
Ok, but were there any complaints about how Presentation effected Gameplay? I'm sincerely asking. I don't pay too much attention to DD.
Absolutely. As a newer gamer and new to MLBTS, I can't say I always understand the nuances of these complaints but yes, presentation is a frequent topic in relation to gameplay which most online players agree is pretty awful this year.
What are some game modes you reccomend since DD has run it's course.
I'm not saying DD has run its course, I'm just saying I don't have an interest in it. On the contrary, offline modes have sort of run their course mainly due to them not being updated. I'm hoping that the new Presentation will greatly favor Franchise mode because Franchise mode has very little going for it in '22 thus far.
I meant that DD is over for the year, and as. New player I'd like to learn more modes.
I can understand the frustration against DDers as SDS has clearly locked their focus on DD at the expense of other modes. I definitely think Franchise should get some attention along with MTO, these are fun engaging online modes that deserve attention.
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@joshjays44_psn said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
lol I like that one.."Diamond Dummies" I like that one..I gatta use it. Yeah those pokimon card collecting default pitch speed waiting for the next stub sale pizza pocket eating casuals.
This guys probably already back in the DD section hyping himself up like this is the year he take a shot at playing somebody besides a 68 overall bronze minor leaguer the computer controls.
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@charterbus_psn said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
@joshjays44_psn said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
lol I like that one.."Diamond Dummies" I like that one..I gatta use it. Yeah those pokimon card collecting default pitch speed waiting for the next stub sale pizza pocket eating casuals.
This guys probably already back in the DD section hyping himself up like this is the year he take a shot at playing somebody besides a 68 overall bronze minor leaguer the computer controls.
WTF. I see you're new to this forum, I guess you don't know The Joshjays44..okay dude I'm not like you regular players or a DD guy. I'm a hardcore Simulation player, I prolly make up less that 1% of the players of The Show. Meaning, I play on Legend hitting and pitching with pitch speeds maxed at 10 and Sliders that are finely tuned for hours and hours with the help of Slider makers from Operations Sports before I even consider doing Spring Training. You would cry to your mommy and not play the show again if you had to grind at those settings for a full spring training and a full regular season..so before you flap you DD lips understand that there are settings that far exceeds what you guys are use to with online play..meaning default pitch speeds at All Star settings, I don't mean to sound like a conceited D-bag but those are facts.
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@joshjays44_psn said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
@charterbus_psn said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
@joshjays44_psn said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
lol I like that one.."Diamond Dummies" I like that one..I gatta use it. Yeah those pokimon card collecting default pitch speed waiting for the next stub sale pizza pocket eating casuals.
This guys probably already back in the DD section hyping himself up like this is the year he take a shot at playing somebody besides a 68 overall bronze minor leaguer the computer controls.
WTF. I see you're new to this forum, I guess you don't know The Joshjays44..okay dude I'm not like you regular players or a DD guy. I'm a hardcore Simulation player, I prolly make up less that 1% of the players of The Show. Meaning, I play on Legend hitting and pitching with pitch speeds maxed at 10 and Sliders that are finely tuned for hours and hours with the help of Slider makers from Operations Sports before I even consider doing Spring Training. You would cry to your mommy and not play the show again if you had to grind at those settings for a full spring training and a full regular season..so before you flap you DD lips understand that there are settings that far exceeds what you guys are use to with online play..meaning default pitch speeds at All Star settings, I don't mean to sound like a conceited D-bag but those are facts.
Um.....I would highly consider never showing this to another human being.
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@ericulous1_psn said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
@joshjays44_psn said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
@charterbus_psn said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
@joshjays44_psn said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
lol I like that one.."Diamond Dummies" I like that one..I gatta use it. Yeah those pokimon card collecting default pitch speed waiting for the next stub sale pizza pocket eating casuals.
This guys probably already back in the DD section hyping himself up like this is the year he take a shot at playing somebody besides a 68 overall bronze minor leaguer the computer controls.
WTF. I see you're new to this forum, I guess you don't know The Joshjays44..okay dude I'm not like you regular players or a DD guy. I'm a hardcore Simulation player, I prolly make up less that 1% of the players of The Show. Meaning, I play on Legend hitting and pitching with pitch speeds maxed at 10 and Sliders that are finely tuned for hours and hours with the help of Slider makers from Operations Sports before I even consider doing Spring Training. You would cry to your mommy and not play the show again if you had to grind at those settings for a full spring training and a full regular season..so before you flap you DD lips understand that there are settings that far exceeds what you guys are use to with online play..meaning default pitch speeds at All Star settings, I don't mean to sound like a conceited D-bag but those are facts.
Um.....I would highly consider never showing this to another human being.
Joshjay is right, though. There is a group of sim gamers that have made The Show a very difficult game. They've turned it into a game that's more "thinking" and less "reaction". DD online is designed to be just reactionary so a vast majority can participate.
When I play offline, I play on Legend with default sliders and I can just react to the pitches. If I used some of their settings I would have to do a lot more thinking and guessing because certain pitches and locations become impossible to hit unless I'm looking for those spots. Tracking the ball the way those dopey Youtubers do would not be the META for this style of play.
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@rosco-1up_xbl said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
@ericulous1_psn said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
@joshjays44_psn said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
@charterbus_psn said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
@joshjays44_psn said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
lol I like that one.."Diamond Dummies" I like that one..I gatta use it. Yeah those pokimon card collecting default pitch speed waiting for the next stub sale pizza pocket eating casuals.
This guys probably already back in the DD section hyping himself up like this is the year he take a shot at playing somebody besides a 68 overall bronze minor leaguer the computer controls.
WTF. I see you're new to this forum, I guess you don't know The Joshjays44..okay dude I'm not like you regular players or a DD guy. I'm a hardcore Simulation player, I prolly make up less that 1% of the players of The Show. Meaning, I play on Legend hitting and pitching with pitch speeds maxed at 10 and Sliders that are finely tuned for hours and hours with the help of Slider makers from Operations Sports before I even consider doing Spring Training. You would cry to your mommy and not play the show again if you had to grind at those settings for a full spring training and a full regular season..so before you flap you DD lips understand that there are settings that far exceeds what you guys are use to with online play..meaning default pitch speeds at All Star settings, I don't mean to sound like a conceited D-bag but those are facts.
Um.....I would highly consider never showing this to another human being.
Joshjay is right, though. There is a group of sim gamers that have made The Show a very difficult game. They've turned it into a game that's more "thinking" and less "reaction". DD online is designed to be just reactionary so a vast majority can participate.
When I play offline, I play on Legend with default sliders and I can just react to the pitches. If I used some of their settings I would have to do a lot more thinking and guessing because certain pitches and locations become impossible to hit unless I'm looking for those spots. Tracking the ball the way those dopey Youtubers do would not be the META for this style of play.
Be that as it may, he sounds like a rapper who thinks he deserves a Nobel prize for being good at a video game and looks down on those who aren't at that skill level. I mean congrats on being great at a fantasy baseball game, I know I'll never achieve that level, but maybe don't act like you solved world hunger.
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@rosco-1up_xbl said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
So, before the news is released, who do you think will benefit the most from the new presentation additions? The Diamond Dummies or the Franchisees? Or online/offline for those who don't know what I mean by franchisee (which is probably some of the Diamond Dummies)?
Why am I a dummy if I play DD?
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@patmcafeefan124_psn said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
@rosco-1up_xbl said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
So, before the news is released, who do you think will benefit the most from the new presentation additions? The Diamond Dummies or the Franchisees? Or online/offline for those who don't know what I mean by franchisee (which is probably some of the Diamond Dummies)?
Why am I a dummy if I play DD?
Because it's different from what they play. Didn't you know that they are the only cool ones and anyone different is a dummy?
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@patmcafeefan124_psn said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
@rosco-1up_xbl said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
So, before the news is released, who do you think will benefit the most from the new presentation additions? The Diamond Dummies or the Franchisees? Or online/offline for those who don't know what I mean by franchisee (which is probably some of the Diamond Dummies)?
Why am I a dummy if I play DD?
To be clear, you're not a dummy if you play DD.
If you fall for the psychological trap these companies are setting or more so if you're putting your head in the sand despite knowing what's going on but can't resist because you need a dopamine fix ASAP, you're a dummy. They're using psychology against you to get you're money and they're doing it by creating nothing of value. It's not a fair exchange of value.
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@ericulous1_psn said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
@patmcafeefan124_psn said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
@rosco-1up_xbl said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
So, before the news is released, who do you think will benefit the most from the new presentation additions? The Diamond Dummies or the Franchisees? Or online/offline for those who don't know what I mean by franchisee (which is probably some of the Diamond Dummies)?
Why am I a dummy if I play DD?
Because it's different from what they play. Didn't you know that they are the only cool ones and anyone different is a dummy?
Cool it dude, you and I are not enemies if we play different modes. However, the offline experience has been neglected and ruined because of this Ultimate Team racket. So, to think that people who want a better offline experience aren't going to push back is unrealistic.
The truth of what's going on is that fools are falling for trickery. The more we can bring into the light the better chance these predatory tactics can be ended.
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What it comes down to is SDS should give some attention to Franchise, I'm not asking them to reinvent the wheel here, Franchise as it stands isn't that bad...but just keep tweaking it year by year to to evolve it, make it more realistic, more engaging. So in the end both parties can be happy, the more skilled serious Franchise guys and the more pick up and play online DD casual guys.
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@rosco-1up_xbl said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
@ericulous1_psn said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
@patmcafeefan124_psn said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
@rosco-1up_xbl said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
So, before the news is released, who do you think will benefit the most from the new presentation additions? The Diamond Dummies or the Franchisees? Or online/offline for those who don't know what I mean by franchisee (which is probably some of the Diamond Dummies)?
Why am I a dummy if I play DD?
Because it's different from what they play. Didn't you know that they are the only cool ones and anyone different is a dummy?
Cool it dude, you and I are not enemies if we play different modes. However, the offline experience has been neglected and ruined because of this Ultimate Team racket. So, to think that people who want a better offline experience aren't going to push back is unrealistic.
The truth of what's going on is that fools are falling for trickery. The more we can bring into the light the better chance these predatory tactics can be ended.
Fair enough. I am 100% in agreement that Franchise deserves attention too. I get the frustration with DD as SDS has made it their sole focus. But it's unfair to lump anybody who plays DD into the dummy, sheep, bright Shiny object chasing category. I personally only play online when I have to for a mission or against a friend who I can enjoy a game against, otherwise, I love the Roster building, stat collecting and mission completing side of DD, I'm sure I'd dig Franchise.
I would actually like to try Franchise this year and would probably really enjoy it since it's my first time. But I can understand those who have played for years getting tired of the copy/paste approach and wishing for some upgrades.
So, you're right, let's call a cease fire, I'm not a hot head keyboard warrior. @joshjays44_PSN , no disrespect intended, sorry if I came off like that. I hope they address your wishes.
See MLB, normal people can solve differences rather easily.
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@rosco-1up_xbl said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
@patmcafeefan124_psn said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
@rosco-1up_xbl said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
So, before the news is released, who do you think will benefit the most from the new presentation additions? The Diamond Dummies or the Franchisees? Or online/offline for those who don't know what I mean by franchisee (which is probably some of the Diamond Dummies)?
Why am I a dummy if I play DD?
To be clear, you're not a dummy if you play DD.
If you fall for the psychological trap these companies are setting or more so if you're putting your head in the sand despite knowing what's going on but can't resist because you need a dopamine fix ASAP, you're a dummy. They're using psychology against you to get you're money and they're doing it by creating nothing of value. It's not a fair exchange of value.
This is very true... for 2K Madden and Fifa. I think this is an weird idea you came up with in your mind that isn't true. You make it sound like DD is MyTeam and you have to spend thousands on packs to get a good team. But in reality just playing the game and doing TA and conquest and grinding and playing the game is what gets you DD cards. And don't think TA and conquest are super long and not worth it grinds. If you know what you're doing, it's really easy. There is no psychological trap in DD, this sounds like a weird conspiracy theory to me lol. But no hate in the end game, you're allowed to like what you like. But I think you're more thinking of MyTeam or MUT with the psychological deal.
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@ericulous1_psn said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
@joshjays44_psn said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
@charterbus_psn said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
@joshjays44_psn said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
lol I like that one.."Diamond Dummies" I like that one..I gatta use it. Yeah those pokimon card collecting default pitch speed waiting for the next stub sale pizza pocket eating casuals.
This guys probably already back in the DD section hyping himself up like this is the year he take a shot at playing somebody besides a 68 overall bronze minor leaguer the computer controls.
WTF. I see you're new to this forum, I guess you don't know The Joshjays44..okay dude I'm not like you regular players or a DD guy. I'm a hardcore Simulation player, I prolly make up less that 1% of the players of The Show. Meaning, I play on Legend hitting and pitching with pitch speeds maxed at 10 and Sliders that are finely tuned for hours and hours with the help of Slider makers from Operations Sports before I even consider doing Spring Training. You would cry to your mommy and not play the show again if you had to grind at those settings for a full spring training and a full regular season..so before you flap you DD lips understand that there are settings that far exceeds what you guys are use to with online play..meaning default pitch speeds at All Star settings, I don't mean to sound like a conceited D-bag but those are facts.
Um.....I would highly consider never showing this to another human being.
lolll dude your response - some of you guys in here are absolutely hilarious - i think thats why i still frequent this board - just gold man
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@joshjays44_psn said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
What it comes down to is SDS should give some attention to Franchise, I'm not asking them to reinvent the wheel here, Franchise as it stands isn't that bad...but just keep tweaking it year by year to to evolve it, make it more realistic, more engaging. So in the end both parties can be happy, the more skilled serious Franchise guys and the more pick up and play online DD casual guys.
DD casual... Didn't see a cash prize for simming franchise...
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@thehungryhole said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
@ericulous1_psn said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
@joshjays44_psn said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
@charterbus_psn said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
@joshjays44_psn said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
lol I like that one.."Diamond Dummies" I like that one..I gatta use it. Yeah those pokimon card collecting default pitch speed waiting for the next stub sale pizza pocket eating casuals.
This guys probably already back in the DD section hyping himself up like this is the year he take a shot at playing somebody besides a 68 overall bronze minor leaguer the computer controls.
WTF. I see you're new to this forum, I guess you don't know The Joshjays44..okay dude I'm not like you regular players or a DD guy. I'm a hardcore Simulation player, I prolly make up less that 1% of the players of The Show. Meaning, I play on Legend hitting and pitching with pitch speeds maxed at 10 and Sliders that are finely tuned for hours and hours with the help of Slider makers from Operations Sports before I even consider doing Spring Training. You would cry to your mommy and not play the show again if you had to grind at those settings for a full spring training and a full regular season..so before you flap you DD lips understand that there are settings that far exceeds what you guys are use to with online play..meaning default pitch speeds at All Star settings, I don't mean to sound like a conceited D-bag but those are facts.
Um.....I would highly consider never showing this to another human being.
lolll dude your response - some of you guys in here are absolutely hilarious - i think thats why i still frequent this board - just gold man
Thanks, I'm here all week. :). And I'm right there with you. There are great posters in here who make me laugh all the time.
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@patmcafeefan124_psn said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
@rosco-1up_xbl said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
@patmcafeefan124_psn said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
@rosco-1up_xbl said in Who Will Benefit From New "Presentation"?:
So, before the news is released, who do you think will benefit the most from the new presentation additions? The Diamond Dummies or the Franchisees? Or online/offline for those who don't know what I mean by franchisee (which is probably some of the Diamond Dummies)?
Why am I a dummy if I play DD?
To be clear, you're not a dummy if you play DD.
If you fall for the psychological trap these companies are setting or more so if you're putting your head in the sand despite knowing what's going on but can't resist because you need a dopamine fix ASAP, you're a dummy. They're using psychology against you to get you're money and they're doing it by creating nothing of value. It's not a fair exchange of value.
This is very true... for 2K Madden and Fifa. I think this is an weird idea you came up with in your mind that isn't true. You make it sound like DD is MyTeam and you have to spend thousands on packs to get a good team. But in reality just playing the game and doing TA and conquest and grinding and playing the game is what gets you DD cards. And don't think TA and conquest are super long and not worth it grinds. If you know what you're doing, it's really easy. There is no psychological trap in DD, this sounds like a weird conspiracy theory to me lol. But no hate in the end game, you're allowed to like what you like. But I think you're more thinking of MyTeam or MUT with the psychological deal.
Yes, SDS is not as nefarious as EA or 2k, but I assure you this is no "conspiracy theory". This kind of tactic has been used forever. In fact it has probably forged civilizations. From governments to carnivals to corporations to school boards, creating fear and anxiety forces people to make decisions that benefit the party looking to make some gains.
As an example, you'll see countdown clocks throughout the DD season. The sole purpose of these clocks is to subconsciously create a sense of urgency. "Hurry up, times running out". Just like a car salesman who claims "this deal won't be here tomorrow". It's designed to force someone into a decision before they have time to think about it. It's a sales tactic, and against the uninitiated it works.
