Offline DD - No path to 300 without Showdown or expensive collections is killing my desire to continue.
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I have played alot less that 72 hours and I only have 120 stars. I know I am not able to complete the show down. I hate that mode but mostly hate that it is an all or nothing type of playing I know I will not be getting close to the 1st inning bosses. I'll be lucky to get to 200. I have written SDS several times when I have come up with issues in game and always bring up that show down should not be all or nothing for program stars. beating each boss should get you program stars.
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I'm with ya TC. I honestly feel like the devs are trying to actively push offline players away from DD. Between what you've brought up and my complete lack of luck with opening packs I don't even play the game anymore. This has been a huge eye opener for me and won't be buying next year's edition. Not that it matters since they're opening the game up to Xbox and will have more money than they've ever had rolling in.
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@genopolanco said in Offline DD - No path to 300 without Showdown or expensive collections is killing my desire to continue.:
@Dolenz said in Offline DD - No path to 300 without Showdown or expensive collections is killing my desire to continue.:
@TheHungryHole said in Offline DD - No path to 300 without Showdown or expensive collections is killing my desire to continue.:
To improve your squad to only play the CPU? Why not go into Franchise, put the cards you’re grinding for on your team, and play as much as you want?”"
Do we need those players to beat the CPU? No.
Is it still fun to collect the players and build a squad of legends? Yes.
Is it more to play and bat with the likes of Mickey Mantle or bring in Dennis Eckersly for a save rather than mediocre live series players? Yes.But if you’re not play vs CPU games then when are you even using them? Occasionally conquest? Moments/showdowns are usually with teams made for you.
That is a whole other issue that has been brought up multiple times. Yes, I use the team for all of the conquest maps and I will usually run the main conquest map multiple times (just not multiple times in the same inning program)
But most offline players have lamented that there needs to be another offline mode to use your own DD team. Some of us were even hoping that we could use Leagues and simply set the other teams to CPU controlled but obviously that is not an option.
I have often voiced my opinion that the Main Conquest map should get refreshed rewards as often as events or at least give us different stages. Right now, after you complete it once the only reward you get for investing that 12 hours a second time is a 10 pack bundle and I think we know how those are, more time than not, garbage.
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Completing the U.S. Conquest will get you at least 30 stars every time you complete it.
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Why would they make more offline games for DD? The programs are there so you grind your stubs/rewards if you don’t want to shell real money, so that you can build a team towards competitive online play. Never see those arguments for offline in other EA UT games. Weird.
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I'm passing 350 with no Showdowns or Online play. Completed: All Conquest, any and all Moments, a couple of the daily challenges. I did finish 2 collections (Nationals and Padres). Lots of doubling up (via conquest or 9 inning games) to get innings for FoTH points. I also did MTO runs (on Beginner) for Nats, Padres, and KC (currently working on) to get FoTH points so I have Soto, Tatis, and Ohtani.
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I'm not even entertaining this thread. I play predominantly offline, and I'm at 400 stars. No reason to complain.
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@yankblan said in Offline DD - No path to 300 without Showdown or expensive collections is killing my desire to continue.:
Why would they make more offline games for DD? The programs are there so you grind your stubs/rewards if you don’t want to shell real money, so that you can build a team towards competitive online play. Never see those arguments for offline in other EA UT games. Weird.
I've seen many FIFA UT offline players complain that they are "forced" to play online to complete the weekly challenges to get rewards.
Players are going to complain (whether they are offline/online only) regardless. Everyone seems to believe they should have the same opportunities to get all the cards that other players do. It's the fear of missing out, or belief that you are being targeted or screwed over. Its human nature.
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@formallyforearms said in Offline DD - No path to 300 without Showdown or expensive collections is killing my desire to continue.:
@yankblan said in Offline DD - No path to 300 without Showdown or expensive collections is killing my desire to continue.:
Why would they make more offline games for DD? The programs are there so you grind your stubs/rewards if you don’t want to shell real money, so that you can build a team towards competitive online play. Never see those arguments for offline in other EA UT games. Weird.
I've seen many FIFA UT offline players complain that they are "forced" to play online to complete the weekly challenges to get rewards.
Players are going to complain (whether they are offline/online only) regardless. Everyone seems to believe they should have the same opportunities to get all the cards that other players do. It's the fear of missing out, or belief that you are being targeted or screwed over. Its human nature.
This will age me, but imagine back in the day of Super Mario Bros if everyone felt entitled or cried because they didn’t save the princess. Just because something is in a game, especially based on a rewards system, doesn’t mean everyone should have it. Being a husband and dad, I don’t cry (maybe a pinch of envy/nostalgia, sure) because I can’t play from the time I get home til bedtime and 12 hours on weekend days...
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@yankblan said in Offline DD - No path to 300 without Showdown or expensive collections is killing my desire to continue.:
@formallyforearms said in Offline DD - No path to 300 without Showdown or expensive collections is killing my desire to continue.:
@yankblan said in Offline DD - No path to 300 without Showdown or expensive collections is killing my desire to continue.:
Why would they make more offline games for DD? The programs are there so you grind your stubs/rewards if you don’t want to shell real money, so that you can build a team towards competitive online play. Never see those arguments for offline in other EA UT games. Weird.
I've seen many FIFA UT offline players complain that they are "forced" to play online to complete the weekly challenges to get rewards.
Players are going to complain (whether they are offline/online only) regardless. Everyone seems to believe they should have the same opportunities to get all the cards that other players do. It's the fear of missing out, or belief that you are being targeted or screwed over. Its human nature.
This will age me, but imagine back in the day of Super Mario Bros if everyone felt entitled or cried because they didn’t save the princess. Just because something is in a game, especially based on a rewards system, doesn’t mean everyone should have it. Being a husband and dad, I don’t cry (maybe a pinch of envy/nostalgia, sure) because I can’t play from the time I get home til bedtime and 12 hours on weekend days...
Yup. Remember when beating a game like Zelda or Mario and it was actually an accomplishment that required skill and patience? Not just, I spent time doing it so give me the end result.
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@yankblan said in Offline DD - No path to 300 without Showdown or expensive collections is killing my desire to continue.:
@formallyforearms said in Offline DD - No path to 300 without Showdown or expensive collections is killing my desire to continue.:
@yankblan said in Offline DD - No path to 300 without Showdown or expensive collections is killing my desire to continue.:
Why would they make more offline games for DD? The programs are there so you grind your stubs/rewards if you don’t want to shell real money, so that you can build a team towards competitive online play. Never see those arguments for offline in other EA UT games. Weird.
I've seen many FIFA UT offline players complain that they are "forced" to play online to complete the weekly challenges to get rewards.
Players are going to complain (whether they are offline/online only) regardless. Everyone seems to believe they should have the same opportunities to get all the cards that other players do. It's the fear of missing out, or belief that you are being targeted or screwed over. Its human nature.
This will age me, but imagine back in the day of Super Mario Bros if everyone felt entitled or cried because they didn’t save the princess. Just because something is in a game, especially based on a rewards system, doesn’t mean everyone should have it. Being a husband and dad, I don’t cry (maybe a pinch of envy/nostalgia, sure) because I can’t play from the time I get home til bedtime and 12 hours on weekend days...
I compared Showdown to those types of games earlier, when I made the remark that I believe Showdown is fair. It seems I am in the minority on that subject.
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@formallyforearms said in Offline DD - No path to 300 without Showdown or expensive collections is killing my desire to continue.:
@yankblan said in Offline DD - No path to 300 without Showdown or expensive collections is killing my desire to continue.:
Why would they make more offline games for DD? The programs are there so you grind your stubs/rewards if you don’t want to shell real money, so that you can build a team towards competitive online play. Never see those arguments for offline in other EA UT games. Weird.
I've seen many FIFA UT offline players complain that they are "forced" to play online to complete the weekly challenges to get rewards.
Players are going to complain (whether they are offline/online only) regardless. Everyone seems to believe they should have the same opportunities to get all the cards that other players do. It's the fear of missing out, or belief that you are being targeted or screwed over. Its human nature.
I have never believed that I am owed anything. I'm significantly older than the vast majority of players on this forum, so I definitely know better. Even now am simply voicing my concerns over what I see as a pretty dramatic shift from MLB 19 to 20 in regards to earning Program Points as an offline player.
If you want to call that entitlement then go right ahead.
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@formallyforearms said in Offline DD - No path to 300 without Showdown or expensive collections is killing my desire to continue.:
@yankblan said in Offline DD - No path to 300 without Showdown or expensive collections is killing my desire to continue.:
@formallyforearms said in Offline DD - No path to 300 without Showdown or expensive collections is killing my desire to continue.:
@yankblan said in Offline DD - No path to 300 without Showdown or expensive collections is killing my desire to continue.:
Why would they make more offline games for DD? The programs are there so you grind your stubs/rewards if you don’t want to shell real money, so that you can build a team towards competitive online play. Never see those arguments for offline in other EA UT games. Weird.
I've seen many FIFA UT offline players complain that they are "forced" to play online to complete the weekly challenges to get rewards.
Players are going to complain (whether they are offline/online only) regardless. Everyone seems to believe they should have the same opportunities to get all the cards that other players do. It's the fear of missing out, or belief that you are being targeted or screwed over. Its human nature.
This will age me, but imagine back in the day of Super Mario Bros if everyone felt entitled or cried because they didn’t save the princess. Just because something is in a game, especially based on a rewards system, doesn’t mean everyone should have it. Being a husband and dad, I don’t cry (maybe a pinch of envy/nostalgia, sure) because I can’t play from the time I get home til bedtime and 12 hours on weekend days...
I compared Showdown to those types of games earlier, when I made the remark that I believe Showdown is fair. It seems I am in the minority on that subject.
No. Showdown is challenging but doable. I see the moments argument tho. Last year you didn’t have to beat all of them to get some points. I don’t know what to say to the one child, it’s not hard to get to 300. I for one enjoy playing vs the cpu, it’s fun dumping on them. I’m mainly play offline but played RS and events so far dude to quarantine. I admit I’ve put a shat ton of hours in, but wouldn’t have if This virus wasn’t shutting us down. I have 700 something stars and like double the hours the op said, that means he should easily of made 300 stars if he just played what was available and not complain. Anyone can get 10 prospects from TA for some points, you don’t have to beat showdown for that ( but it is easier that way)
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@Dolenz said in Offline DD - No path to 300 without Showdown or expensive collections is killing my desire to continue.:
@formallyforearms said in Offline DD - No path to 300 without Showdown or expensive collections is killing my desire to continue.:
@yankblan said in Offline DD - No path to 300 without Showdown or expensive collections is killing my desire to continue.:
Why would they make more offline games for DD? The programs are there so you grind your stubs/rewards if you don’t want to shell real money, so that you can build a team towards competitive online play. Never see those arguments for offline in other EA UT games. Weird.
I've seen many FIFA UT offline players complain that they are "forced" to play online to complete the weekly challenges to get rewards.
Players are going to complain (whether they are offline/online only) regardless. Everyone seems to believe they should have the same opportunities to get all the cards that other players do. It's the fear of missing out, or belief that you are being targeted or screwed over. Its human nature.
I have never believed that I am owed anything. I'm significantly older than the vast majority of players on this forum, so I definitely know better. Even now am simply voicing my concerns over what I see as a pretty dramatic shift from MLB 19 to 20 in regards to earning Program Points as an offline player.
If you want to call that entitlement then go right ahead.
Yeah I really don't the get the animosity that you're receiving in this thread.
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@TheHungryHole said in Offline DD - No path to 300 without Showdown or expensive collections is killing my desire to continue.:
a friend of mine said this and couldn't be more bang on accurate - "Offline player b1tching on TSN about there not being enough to grind in DD. I’m thinking, “Why are you grinding anyway? To improve your squad to only play the CPU? Why not go into Franchise, put the cards you’re grinding for on your team, and play as much as you want?”"
Because you can't put cards you are grinding for on a franchise team. It would be nice if we could.
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There's a misconception that keeps coming up when we talk about this stuff. When we talk about stuff to do offline we aren't necessarily talking about rewards and exclusive cards, we're talking about having some mode that lets us play 9 inning games offline with out DD team that has an end game. A carrot to work towards.
It's not jealousy because the online crowd gets a card the offline crowd doesn't.
This said as someone that plays both online and off, right now I'm probably 70/30 online, it would be nice to have something less stressful to play after RS.
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@Dolenz said in Offline DD - No path to 300 without Showdown or expensive collections is killing my desire to continue.:
Here is where I stand as an offline player as of last night
- Completed Starter Conquest
- Complete list 1st Inning Conquest
- Completed US Conquest
- Completed Starter Showdown
- Made Several failed attempts at the 1st inning Showdown
- Did all of the Welcome Moments
- Did all of the first inning Moments (Granderson and Woods)
- Did the Eckersly Evolution moments.
- Did a MTO run up to the World series(have not played the world series as it would be a waste of affinity points)
- Earned the FOTF from my favorite team.
- Played the nine inning CPU games against Cubs and Yankees. (Woods and Granderson)
I am sitting at 205 program points.
There are only a few options open to me to get the final 95 points. Showdown, which I have failed badly at in every attempt so far, and that costs 500 stubs each attempt. Collections, which also cost stubs, but in this case both collections together are more expensive than just buying the three bosses outright. Mindlessly grinding for another 30 hours or so in the last 9 days of the 1st Inning Program.
Basically the goal of 300 stars still seems so far away and the options to get there seem so unappealing (and just not fun) that it has killed a bit of my desire to keep playing.
Have you collected the Wood and Granderson cards? Those, I believe, are both 10 stars apiece
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@Vipersneak said in Offline DD - No path to 300 without Showdown or expensive collections is killing my desire to continue.:
@TheHungryHole said in Offline DD - No path to 300 without Showdown or expensive collections is killing my desire to continue.:
a friend of mine said this and couldn't be more bang on accurate - "Offline player b1tching on TSN about there not being enough to grind in DD. I’m thinking, “Why are you grinding anyway? To improve your squad to only play the CPU? Why not go into Franchise, put the cards you’re grinding for on your team, and play as much as you want?”"
Because you can't put cards you are grinding for on a franchise team. It would be nice if we could.
yeah earlier i was saying to Dolenz it would be nice if you guys could indeed for that scenario
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I am also a strictly offline player. This may be a dumb question but did you “collect” Wood and Granderson. You don’t get the program points until you collect them. You can also get five stars a day with dailies.
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I've got it done and I'm in a position as far as what I've played (bronze 88). I've done pretty much all the offline missions tho (getting innings with players and doing cheap trade ins), I made a point to mix that in with conquest. I'm currently at 331 stars and I'm working on the 1st inning conquest now
