I won't be Pre-ordering next year's game.
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@jeezy-e_psn said in I won't be Pre-ordering next year's game.:
@gixxerryder750 said in I won't be Pre-ordering next year's game.:
I like Turtles!
I like train’s
I like robots and teddy bears
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@allday9128_psn said in I won't be Pre-ordering next year's game.:
@jeezy-e_psn said in I won't be Pre-ordering next year's game.:
@gixxerryder750 said in I won't be Pre-ordering next year's game.:
I like Turtles!
I like train’s
I like robots and teddy bears
Have you ever thought of combining the two?
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@allday9128_psn said in I won't be Pre-ordering next year's game.:
@jeezy-e_psn said in I won't be Pre-ordering next year's game.:
@gixxerryder750 said in I won't be Pre-ordering next year's game.:
I like Turtles!
I like train’s
I like robots and teddy bears
I like lamp
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@jaycruise21_psn said in I won't be Pre-ordering next year's game.:
The core gameplay needs an overhaul. I'm only posting on here cuz I'm bored at work, but yeah.
I'm probably not buying again until there's clear improvements in gameplay. The copy/paste every year is the reason why I left COD however many years ago.
This is my thinking, I'm def. not pre-ordering. I may buy 22 later in the year if they dont do the same lazy port to PS5 again. The copy/paste year to year is stale and boring. I haven't played much recently because of this. Time for a revamp, even a different game theme on boot up could help. This was another lazy year for SDS, I'm not fooled by the free content like most, this game needs serious work, and with the new XBox money this year they have no excuse to be lazy again next year
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Jeez.
There's some maximum character tweets on here, huh?
In an interesting twist, I had my pre-order 'get the cap' version streak snapped with '21. Had every Show hat since 16 but this year, the digital was sold out. Still in tears today....
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....Meanwhile at SDS Headquarters....
Boss: Great job, guys! This year's game was one of our best sellers. Keep up the good work! Oh wait, it seems someone on the message board doesn't like it and says he's never preordering again.
Random Employee: Don't players say that all the time and not mean it? Most of them are hooked and will keep playing no matter what we do.
Boss: You're fired! The rest of you, drop what you're doing for an emergency meeting. We need to scrap everything we've done on the Show 22 so far and completely start over. Appeasing this one disgruntled player is now our top priority!
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@whitejw98_psn said in I won't be Pre-ordering next year's game.:
....Meanwhile at SDS Headquarters....
Boss: Great job, guys! This year's game was one of our best sellers. Keep up the good work! Oh wait, it seems someone on the message board doesn't like it and says he's never preordering again.
Random Employee: Don't players say that all the time and not mean it? Most of them are hooked and will keep playing no matter what we do.
Boss: You're fired! The rest of you, drop what you're doing for an emergency meeting. We need to scrap everything we've done on the Show 22 so far and completely start over. Appeasing this one disgruntled player is now our top priority!
The real joke here is that you think they have dumped mass amounts of hours into ‘22. Let’s be honest, its going to be the same game but now you will be able to make your PCI hot pink or some dumb sh*t like that.
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@chuck_dizzle29 said in I won't be Pre-ordering next year's game.:
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@chuck_dizzle29 said in I won't be Pre-ordering next year's game.:
I've done so every year previously since 2015. I've always gotten a deluxe or expanded version since they've been offered.
I am choosing to not support your game in this manner because your product doesn't deserve it. Between the terrible online environment and gameplay issues I'm not supporting it any further.
We as sports game fans have been taken advantage of over the recent years since Ultimate Team modes have become the prioritized game modes. We get rushed and incomplete yearly installments where all progress is erased and we're fed mostly repetitive content with minimal game improvements.
I'll be waiting for the next release to drop before I even consider purchasing this game, or any game for that matter. I suspect my days of mainly playing sports titles is ending. I hope people take the same stance as I, because the gaming community deserves better.
Stop crying, no one cares. This game gives you all the free content in the world and is arguably the best sports game out by far…quit being a baby
Looks like all the devs liked this. Content can't mask the abysmal online play this game has become. Congrats, yes it is the best smelling [censored] in the toilet.
And there he is, this guy has popped into the thread to spread his vitriol.
You're predictable and it's sad. The same weirdo that made a post about wanting to smash cheesers in the face with a hammer is calling me a whiner
.I hadn't posted on here in over a month lol. Yet here you are consistently miserable attacking anyone who says anything negative about the game or trying to pick on people for not being good at the game.
You're pathetic honestly, you scour these forums looking for any reason to jump on people. You're the White Knight nobody asked for. Just a miserable fart in the wind.
Chuck I really enjoyed speaking with you over the years, but the constant posts about how unhappy you are with the game - is it really necessary? I get @KILLERPRESENCE4 and these guys, they are just tired of hearing discontent over and over and over.
There are many who love the game, and I am one of many here. Does it need improvements - always and absolutely. To put so much negative energy and feelings into a videogame makes no sense - I am not ripping on you here just offering an objective perspective.
See that's the thing, I haven't been on TSN much this year. While the last week or so I've criticized the last gameplay patch, I've also answered questions in other posts. The online environment this year has been the worst it's ever been. As a paying customer I used their platform to voice my honest opinion including my decision to not pre-order the game.
I don't lay down for forum trolls though that are allowed to run amok and try to put people down. I've never jumped in a post that supports the game and tried to put someone down.
You know firsthand I've been banned on this site multiple times while defending the game.
i empathize i do mate, you are of course allowed to feel the way you feel - i think for me my secret is i hardly play so when i do i try to enjoy what little time i have for gaming - have a great winter over there
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@jeezy-e_psn said in I won't be Pre-ordering next year's game.:
@thehungryhole said in I won't be Pre-ordering next year's game.:
@chuck_dizzle29 said in I won't be Pre-ordering next year's game.:
@killerpresence4 said in I won't be Pre-ordering next year's game.:
@d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in I won't be Pre-ordering next year's game.:
@jonblaze2424_psn said in I won't be Pre-ordering next year's game.:
@chuck_dizzle29 said in I won't be Pre-ordering next year's game.:
I've done so every year previously since 2015. I've always gotten a deluxe or expanded version since they've been offered.
I am choosing to not support your game in this manner because your product doesn't deserve it. Between the terrible online environment and gameplay issues I'm not supporting it any further.
We as sports game fans have been taken advantage of over the recent years since Ultimate Team modes have become the prioritized game modes. We get rushed and incomplete yearly installments where all progress is erased and we're fed mostly repetitive content with minimal game improvements.
I'll be waiting for the next release to drop before I even consider purchasing this game, or any game for that matter. I suspect my days of mainly playing sports titles is ending. I hope people take the same stance as I, because the gaming community deserves better.
Stop crying, no one cares. This game gives you all the free content in the world and is arguably the best sports game out by far…quit being a baby
Looks like all the devs liked this. Content can't mask the abysmal online play this game has become. Congrats, yes it is the best smelling [censored] in the toilet.
And there he is, this guy has popped into the thread to spread his vitriol.
You're predictable and it's sad. The same weirdo that made a post about wanting to smash cheesers in the face with a hammer is calling me a whiner
.I hadn't posted on here in over a month lol. Yet here you are consistently miserable attacking anyone who says anything negative about the game or trying to pick on people for not being good at the game.
You're pathetic honestly, you scour these forums looking for any reason to jump on people. You're the White Knight nobody asked for. Just a miserable fart in the wind.
Chuck I really enjoyed speaking with you over the years, but the constant posts about how unhappy you are with the game - is it really necessary? I get @KILLERPRESENCE4 and these guys, they are just tired of hearing discontent over and over and over.
There are many who love the game, and I am one of many here. Does it need improvements - always and absolutely. To put so much negative energy and feelings into a videogame makes no sense - I am not ripping on you here just offering an objective perspective.
You know, if people don’t like certain post’s on the forum, there is this crazy method they can use, ignore and move on,Crazy right!?. I have never understood why people feel the need to give their opinion on someone else’s opinion.
I didn’t take dizzle’s post as being full of negative energy, he’s just airing his frustration at the direction of the game, and he is not wrong. I can’t ever remember when the game was in such a terrible state at this point in it’s life cycle, thats not very reassuring when it comes to next years game. Either way I am glad there are people enjoying the game, since the last patch I can’t say I have found much enjoyment from the game. I will however stand by my opinion that SDS has set the standard for how these ultimate team/team building modes should be with this years version of DD though.
yeah see we have differing viewpoints on what constitutes "a bad game" - you guys are allowed to feel what you feel, the nature of the internet is that mostly negative posts get the most attention - you don't hear the guys who are content going on and on and on about how great it is
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@jonblaze2424_psn said in I won't be Pre-ordering next year's game.:
@og_sweedy_psn said in I won't be Pre-ordering next year's game.:
I didn’t buy ‘21 at all. I usually preorder every year and spend at least a few hundred if not 1-2k on stubs each year. I came to the exact same conclusion after the shambolic state of last years game. SDS do not seek to improve the quality of gameplay, nor do they give weight to the opinions and requests of players who invest hundreds of hours and thousands of dollars in to their product. With all due respect, a player such as myself who would play 2000+ games a year, would realistically be able to offer more valid input than the guys who are forced to play test the game at work as a part of their job. The same guys who let the same bugs make it to release year after year, apparently don’t notice game breaking issues such as outfielders not making plays near walls, or beating able to throw to second base with your catcher when a steal occurs, those guys.
Anyway, as well as the stupid gameplay that doesn’t get worked out until summer, if at all, SDS went absolutely nuts with the cards and the content is now terrible every year as well. Time was, you’d be excited as a kid at Christmas when you finally managed to obtain one of your favourite legends for your DD squad. Huge grinds were not always fun, but the feeling of obtaining a card that was rare and elite like Ken Griffey Jr in ‘17, or that 99 Joe Mauer in ‘16 were always fun.
Obviously, as we saw in ‘18, when this concept is taken to it’s absolute extreme and the grind becomes too long and the elite rewards too few and far between, it stops being fun. This is where SDS lost the plot completely following the entirely justified criticism of the content structure in ‘18 and ruined DD forever. Now it doesn’t matter in the slightest little bit if you grind away and obtain your favourite legend. Cards like Griffey or Miggy aren’t even worth grinding for outside of the name and artwork on the card, because there are multiple fake versions of modern day players that play equally well or better than any legendary hall of famer. While there is an argument that all cards should be usable and not consigned to irrelevancy, that’s more an indictment of SDS inability to make a realistic game, where all types of player are viable, but have tangibly different skill sets with unique strengths and weaknesses. Instead of looking at that issue, they instead opted to unload a dearth of juiced versions of every single card in the game.
The reason why this is such a problem and caused me to quit the game after last year, is because there is no longer any incentive to play the game at all, much less buy stubs or invest time grinding. I used to play to unlock the cards I wanted, even when the gameplay left more than a little to be desired, because that was the entire point. To get that elite team. 6 billion 99 overalls in the marketplace all available for quick sell value has made that entirely obsolete. The fact that you can go all out to obtain 99 overall johnny whoever, investing time and stubs, only to be handed yet another 99 johnny overall whoever for free with slightly different stats, has ruined the point of grinding. The fact that the HOF level players they want you to grind for are made obsolete by free versions of modern day players who’ve yet to even play in the majors, has ruined the concept of spending time and money to obtain an elite team of valuable cards forever. DD is ruined. It’s now a case of loading up on juiced fake cards that have no relevance to actual baseball and playing the game. The problem with that is, the gameplay is not good. Never has been. The grind was what drew me in personally, watching streams to see who the latest new legend was and so on. Now it’s like who cares, every card has 125 everything anyway, none of them standout or play any differently, so they’re not worth the time and effort to obtain or even care about.
They tried offering me flash sales on MLB ‘21, gave it away free with XB game pass, I just don’t care about the game any more. I thought I’d really miss it given the thousands of hours I invested between ‘16 and ‘20, but it’s just become an absolutely garbage franchise and the reason is because they diluted the content so badly that nothing feels unique and failed to improve on the substandard gameplay experience, despite rereleasing the exact same game year after year. They couldn’t even iron out issues that had been recurrent for three consecutive years. Disgraceful and I can’t see myself coming back again for ‘22. SDS aren’t capable of making a high quality baseball game, they rely on spewing out fake juiced 99 overall versions of players that don’t deserve them to wow little kids and keep them playing. See ya.
You have to look at the flip side of this, not everyone can grind out dozens and dozens of hours to obtain specific cards. If it is something extremely rare like the Griffey or Mauer cards then fine, but I'm going to have to play devils advocate and say that I think the fact they put out SO much good content plays well for the overall client base. I remember up until 2018 after a few months online was literally the same exact lineup, give or take one or two guys. While it essentially is that way in todays game, they give you far more options to have a diverse lineup and still be competitive. All you see is people complain about DeGrom, the only way they can counter that is by putting new guys in the game who are just as good.
The problem is that with so many 99 overalls given out, the gameplay feels very very generic. None of the players feel unique and it’s certainly not worth investing time or money into the game to obtain elite cards for your DD squad when they hand out free weekly cards which are equal or better than the best cards you can earn from completing tasks or collections. I just don’t want to play that kind of game, IMO they may as well get rid of all the licensing, have nine CAPs or Joe Randoms and start everyone out with a team of 99 overalls with 125 everything, because that’s how it will end up regardless. Even when gameplay sucked, the content would still keep me playing, keep me grinding because I wanted to obtain my team of favoured legends or whatever. Now the pool of cards is so diluted, that aspect is no longer relevant. There are too many juiced cards and too many players with multiple high diamond cards. Yes we always wanted line up diversity, but now it’s hyperbole. It’s made the collecting and grinding aspect of the game much less relevant, which then in turn puts the spotlight on gameplay, which has always been the weakest part of the MLBTS franchise. It was more fun grinding and collecting than actually playing baseball for me. Now they killed that and made it irrelevant, the game is much less attractive to play long term. If they had decent gameplay, this may not be the case, but they just rehash the same game every year with new content.
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@chuck_dizzle29 said in I won't be Pre-ordering next year's game.:
I've done so every year previously since 2015. I've always gotten a deluxe or expanded version since they've been offered.
I am choosing to not support your game in this manner because your product doesn't deserve it. Between the terrible online environment and gameplay issues I'm not supporting it any further.
We as sports game fans have been taken advantage of over the recent years since Ultimate Team modes have become the prioritized game modes. We get rushed and incomplete yearly installments where all progress is erased and we're fed mostly repetitive content with minimal game improvements.
I'll be waiting for the next release to drop before I even consider purchasing this game, or any game for that matter. I suspect my days of mainly playing sports titles is ending. I hope people take the same stance as I, because the gaming community deserves better.
Terrible online environment? Sounds like somebody made you watch a home run lmao. This is the only sports game that is 100% not pay to win on the market. Constant updates, constant free drops, please explain how you’re being taken advantage of. I’m guessing you’re the kind of guy that expects to play for a few hours and have the best lineup available. It’s a grind my guy. Embrace it
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@jonblaze2424_psn said in I won't be Pre-ordering next year's game.:
@chuck_dizzle29 said in I won't be Pre-ordering next year's game.:
I've done so every year previously since 2015. I've always gotten a deluxe or expanded version since they've been offered.
I am choosing to not support your game in this manner because your product doesn't deserve it. Between the terrible online environment and gameplay issues I'm not supporting it any further.
We as sports game fans have been taken advantage of over the recent years since Ultimate Team modes have become the prioritized game modes. We get rushed and incomplete yearly installments where all progress is erased and we're fed mostly repetitive content with minimal game improvements.
I'll be waiting for the next release to drop before I even consider purchasing this game, or any game for that matter. I suspect my days of mainly playing sports titles is ending. I hope people take the same stance as I, because the gaming community deserves better.
Stop crying, no one cares. This game gives you all the free content in the world and is arguably the best sports game out by far…quit being a baby
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@chuck_dizzle29 said in I won't be Pre-ordering next year's game.:
I've done so every year previously since 2015. I've always gotten a deluxe or expanded version since they've been offered.
I am choosing to not support your game in this manner because your product doesn't deserve it. Between the terrible online environment and gameplay issues I'm not supporting it any further.
We as sports game fans have been taken advantage of over the recent years since Ultimate Team modes have become the prioritized game modes. We get rushed and incomplete yearly installments where all progress is erased and we're fed mostly repetitive content with minimal game improvements.
I'll be waiting for the next release to drop before I even consider purchasing this game, or any game for that matter. I suspect my days of mainly playing sports titles is ending. I hope people take the same stance as I, because the gaming community deserves better.
Full of it keep on playing troll
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@poksey_mlbts said in I won't be Pre-ordering next year's game.:
@d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in I won't be Pre-ordering next year's game.:
@jonblaze2424_psn said in I won't be Pre-ordering next year's game.:
@chuck_dizzle29 said in I won't be Pre-ordering next year's game.:
I've done so every year previously since 2015. I've always gotten a deluxe or expanded version since they've been offered.
I am choosing to not support your game in this manner because your product doesn't deserve it. Between the terrible online environment and gameplay issues I'm not supporting it any further.
We as sports game fans have been taken advantage of over the recent years since Ultimate Team modes have become the prioritized game modes. We get rushed and incomplete yearly installments where all progress is erased and we're fed mostly repetitive content with minimal game improvements.
I'll be waiting for the next release to drop before I even consider purchasing this game, or any game for that matter. I suspect my days of mainly playing sports titles is ending. I hope people take the same stance as I, because the gaming community deserves better.
Stop crying, no one cares. This game gives you all the free content in the world and is arguably the best sports game out by far…quit being a baby
Looks like all the devs liked this. Content can't mask the abysmal online play this game has become. Congrats, yes it is the best smelling [censored] in the toilet.
I agree that online makes this game play terribly.
The question I keep asking though, is name a sports game that plays great online? Every community for each of these games complains about the same network/lag issues. Lag compensation from P2P connections cause many of the issues, as do server locations and connections. I would like to know if there is any sports title that solved these issues, because I dont know of any.
It is because they cater to the majority of the U.S. that has poor internet. There is a reason the alleged servers are in Florida, Chicago and NY. All areas with garbage internet.
Pretty sure Weens is in Philly so say I played him. The only servers between us are Chicago and NY. My internet can get to the NY server significantly faster than his can the Chicago server. Therefore, the game is going to connect to the New York server. That being said his information will likely get to the server first even though my internet is far better due to the distance. His game will play great (like always because you are not going 500-50 if it isn't), mine will play like [censored]. I can promise you if we played 10 games at each location, the results would be obvious.
There are a few problems with this scenario. Why am I matched up with this internet to begin with? There are not enough servers to combat this issue. Can we not find an opponent where the ping to the servers is close?
It is interesting that nearly every top player is on the east coast. couple exceptions but almost every single one ik of lives there
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I will not buy it until I see gameplay is really good by the time TA2 drops. I have zero tolerance for all the bs hits and homeruns my opponents are getting. This and contact swing bombs were the two things I comolained about during the tech test
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@badreadz_xbl said in I won't be Pre-ordering next year's game.:
@chuck_dizzle29 said in I won't be Pre-ordering next year's game.:
I've done so every year previously since 2015. I've always gotten a deluxe or expanded version since they've been offered.
I am choosing to not support your game in this manner because your product doesn't deserve it. Between the terrible online environment and gameplay issues I'm not supporting it any further.
We as sports game fans have been taken advantage of over the recent years since Ultimate Team modes have become the prioritized game modes. We get rushed and incomplete yearly installments where all progress is erased and we're fed mostly repetitive content with minimal game improvements.
I'll be waiting for the next release to drop before I even consider purchasing this game, or any game for that matter. I suspect my days of mainly playing sports titles is ending. I hope people take the same stance as I, because the gaming community deserves better.
Terrible online environment? Sounds like somebody made you watch a home run lmao. This is the only sports game that is 100% not pay to win on the market. Constant updates, constant free drops, please explain how you’re being taken advantage of. I’m guessing you’re the kind of guy that expects to play for a few hours and have the best lineup available. It’s a grind my guy. Embrace it
Yuk yuk oh you're so funny. Must of sucked reading that whole post and then make a stupid reply that had nothing to do with what I posted
. I have like 3.6 million stubs with nothing to do with them. Why you ask,well because the game is not fun to play online.I'm glad some of you guys like free stuff, but let's remember why some of it was free in the first place. Server crashes, freeze offs, laggy game play, and countless number of server maintenances. Now with this last gameplay patch and the crazy PCI the gameplay is even worse.
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@hustlinowl_psn said in I won't be Pre-ordering next year's game.:
@chuck_dizzle29 said in I won't be Pre-ordering next year's game.:
I've done so every year previously since 2015. I've always gotten a deluxe or expanded version since they've been offered.
I am choosing to not support your game in this manner because your product doesn't deserve it. Between the terrible online environment and gameplay issues I'm not supporting it any further.
We as sports game fans have been taken advantage of over the recent years since Ultimate Team modes have become the prioritized game modes. We get rushed and incomplete yearly installments where all progress is erased and we're fed mostly repetitive content with minimal game improvements.
I'll be waiting for the next release to drop before I even consider purchasing this game, or any game for that matter. I suspect my days of mainly playing sports titles is ending. I hope people take the same stance as I, because the gaming community deserves better.
Full of it keep on playing troll
https://mlb21.theshow.com/universal_profiles/CHUCK_DIZZLE29/game_historyWhen did I say I wasn't playing this year again lol? I'm still committed to a DD league, got to finish programs and such to get my rostered players.
It's nice to know you have a crush on me though. Either way, it still doesn't change what I said. I won't be Pre-ordering next year
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@chuck_dizzle29 said in I won't be Pre-ordering next year's game.:
It's nice to know you have a crush on me though. Either way, it still doesn't change what I said. I won't be Pre-ordering next year
Trust me, we do not care.
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@texaskid789_xbl said in I won't be Pre-ordering next year's game.:
@chuck_dizzle29 said in I won't be Pre-ordering next year's game.:
It's nice to know you have a crush on me though. Either way, it still doesn't change what I said. I won't be Pre-ordering next year
Trust me, we do not care.
Ah but you cared enough to post didn't ya
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I must say, I’m really enjoying some of the new SDS apologist posts.
“Embrace the grind, my guy”?
Do you fellas think you’re talking to a bunch of 15 year olds who just started playing the game?
Keep it up!
Oh but wait, don’t listen to me. I repeatedly post untruths about the game. The PCI is the barrel of the bat!
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