To offline players
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@thestealthtank_mlbts said in To offline players:
This thread is surprisingly civil with well thought out responses.
That's because offline players are generally the more mature gamers. The twitch generation tends to play online with each other. See:
@bjd10048842_psn said in To offline players:
@bk2025_psn said in To offline players:
I seen a lot of posts of "oh I only play offline, and how can this program be done offline..."
I just don't get this concept. DD is meant to be online. I don't play RS often but do dive into BR and def a lot of Events.
If you are playing offline, what's the fun? to get a better team to beat the same missions, conquest or vs CPU all over again???
I'm just not understanding playing ONLY offline and never wanting to play vs people even if it can be toxic players online ie bunt dances pausing etc. For the most part the players you face online play fair and it's really not hard to get some wins in an event or stats to complete the programs.
Agreed, only playing offline is just wimpy. Like sitting down to pee
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The whole online vs offline play has been going on for years now. Only SDS has the answer since they have the metrics, but I would be curious as to where the majority of their revenue stream is coming from.
Casual players and "hardcore offline" players (I place myself in the latter) prefer to play offline because, in general, we are looking to have an enjoyable time playing the game our way, on our difficulty setting without having to worry about possible cheaters, freeze-offs, connection issues and the general "toxicity" that seems to come out of online play.
Now before you ask, as a matter of full disclosure, while I love offline and would play it almost exclusively, I am not averse to the online portion, but I play it at the strictist minimum and not a single game more than I need to in order to obtain what I want.
While I think many in the online community are decent enough people and want to play against another person as a way to test their skill, there are those who want to abuse the mechanics as much as possible, and generally make the game as unenjoyable as possible for their opponent because their only goal is to win at all costs. Now I know I am generalizing here, but that crowd is usually the younger crowd, the less "mature" crowd.
The best comparision I can make is a PvE vs PvP environment. Most people prefer a PvE environment because they just don't like to have their gameplay experience ruined by someone else who is intent on having fun at someone elses expense. An old game I used to play, Ultima Online, at one point decided to "split" the world into a mirror image of itself, Felucca and Trammel, with Trammel being the PvE only world. Overnight, Felucca became a barren wasteland because people prefered to play without PvP and when they wanted some PvP would simply go to the Felucca shard to get their fix.
This game is no different. I think both communities can co-exist, and I think SDS has an obligation to ensure that both can get what they want out of this game. There needs to be an offline RS mode (I made a post about that several weeks back) for the offline community so that vs CPU has more meaning. Those that refuse to play online except say events and the occasional BR won't invest money into the game to play a mode they refuse to, but I suspect that many of them would invest a few $$$ more to get some better cards in order to play an offline mode that gives them a REASON to play and a goal to work towards.
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As a player with limited play time, offline is just a more efficient use of my time. I could spend 30-45 minutes playing an online game that will probably be frustrating and maybe I finish a couple missions or gain a parallel level for one or two players, or I can knock out the seemingly endless string of content offline with a cold beer and not sweat too much about the outcome.
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This is largely a younger gamer versus older gamer divide that is pointless to discuss ad infinitum.
I’m approaching 50 and the first three decades of gaming were exclusively offline for me. And in those days I absolutely would have played online most of the time if it was an option.
At my age today, I play online more because I have to and not because it is enjoyable. Even when I beat them, it is not fun to play against young, immature, win at all cost opponents. But playing repetitive offline games isn’t necessarily fun either—so it is a weird spot to be in because I don’t want to retire from gaming yet
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So here's my perspective, I used to have Play Station for the early years of the show and loved RTTS. My brother ended up taking the Play Station and I ended up with Xbox and hadn't played a legit baseball game since MVP. When I was able to get The show on xbox this year, nostalgia kicked in and it brought me back to when I was playing Tony LaRussa on PC, MLBPA on Genesis, Ken Griffey on N64 and then the All-Star & MVP baseball series later on, where I'd create myself and live out my dream of playing CF for the yanks. The first couple months of the show I did nothing but play RTTS, I was never big on online gaming and deadset that I was just going to play for my own enjoyment. After a couple of season of RTTS though I got bored, I started playing on beginner and rookie and just put up ridiculous stats with my player and started craving a challenge. Once I opened up DD and messed with the CPU missions enough to get my timing and patience down I started messing around playing Battle Royale and Ranked. I've been hooked since. Playing online is obviously a bit different experience and players exploit the game in ways that baseball wouldn't really be played but once you become good enough at hitting and pitching where you can get over those annoyances there's nothing better. For every inning program I go through waves of just CPU missions and then back to events or BR. I think it's the best way to keep the game from getting stale. Just my two cents but the game is meant for personal enjoyment. Nobody should be knocking anyone on their preferred play style, I'm just giving perspective to those who only play offline, once you mess around and play a few ranked or event games your perspective may change.
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@raylewissb47_psn said in To offline players:
@bjd10048842_psn said in To offline players:
@bk2025_psn said in To offline players:
I seen a lot of posts of "oh I only play offline, and how can this program be done offline..."
I just don't get this concept. DD is meant to be online. I don't play RS often but do dive into BR and def a lot of Events.
If you are playing offline, what's the fun? to get a better team to beat the same missions, conquest or vs CPU all over again???
I'm just not understanding playing ONLY offline and never wanting to play vs people even if it can be toxic players online ie bunt dances pausing etc. For the most part the players you face online play fair and it's really not hard to get some wins in an event or stats to complete the programs.
Agreed, only playing offline is just wimpy. Like sitting down to pee
It’s not wimpy. There are reasons for why people choose to play only offline. I don’t have time that I can dedicate to play a game without interruptions. I use a TV with bad input lag so I don’t feel like getting destroyed every game because I’m going to be spammed fastballs knowing I can’t keep up. Also, I don’t care to play against other people. I play video games to relax and not have to deal with cheesers that use every exploit possible.
Get a monitor and play events.
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@bjd10048842_psn said in To offline players:
@bk2025_psn said in To offline players:
I seen a lot of posts of "oh I only play offline, and how can this program be done offline..."
I just don't get this concept. DD is meant to be online. I don't play RS often but do dive into BR and def a lot of Events.
If you are playing offline, what's the fun? to get a better team to beat the same missions, conquest or vs CPU all over again???
I'm just not understanding playing ONLY offline and never wanting to play vs people even if it can be toxic players online ie bunt dances pausing etc. For the most part the players you face online play fair and it's really not hard to get some wins in an event or stats to complete the programs.
Agreed, only playing offline is just wimpy. Like sitting down to pee
And insulting offline players, like you are somehow a superior person because you play online, is a sign of someone with low self esteem.
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@bjd10048842_psn said in To offline players:
@raylewissb47_psn said in To offline players:
@bjd10048842_psn said in To offline players:
@bk2025_psn said in To offline players:
I seen a lot of posts of "oh I only play offline, and how can this program be done offline..."
I just don't get this concept. DD is meant to be online. I don't play RS often but do dive into BR and def a lot of Events.
If you are playing offline, what's the fun? to get a better team to beat the same missions, conquest or vs CPU all over again???
I'm just not understanding playing ONLY offline and never wanting to play vs people even if it can be toxic players online ie bunt dances pausing etc. For the most part the players you face online play fair and it's really not hard to get some wins in an event or stats to complete the programs.
Agreed, only playing offline is just wimpy. Like sitting down to pee
It’s not wimpy. There are reasons for why people choose to play only offline. I don’t have time that I can dedicate to play a game without interruptions. I use a TV with bad input lag so I don’t feel like getting destroyed every game because I’m going to be spammed fastballs knowing I can’t keep up. Also, I don’t care to play against other people. I play video games to relax and not have to deal with cheesers that use every exploit possible.
Get a monitor and play events.
I’d rather play on my 55” tv while on my comfy sofa than sit in a chair and play on a small monitor. I already have to do that for work. I don’t want to do that after work.
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@dolenz_psn said in To offline players:
@bjd10048842_psn said in To offline players:
@bk2025_psn said in To offline players:
I seen a lot of posts of "oh I only play offline, and how can this program be done offline..."
I just don't get this concept. DD is meant to be online. I don't play RS often but do dive into BR and def a lot of Events.
If you are playing offline, what's the fun? to get a better team to beat the same missions, conquest or vs CPU all over again???
I'm just not understanding playing ONLY offline and never wanting to play vs people even if it can be toxic players online ie bunt dances pausing etc. For the most part the players you face online play fair and it's really not hard to get some wins in an event or stats to complete the programs.
Agreed, only playing offline is just wimpy. Like sitting down to pee
And insulting offline players, like you are somehow a superior person because you play online, is a sign of someone with low self esteem.
I am superior if you won't even step in the ring of online.
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@raylewissb47_psn said in To offline players:
@bjd10048842_psn said in To offline players:
@raylewissb47_psn said in To offline players:
@bjd10048842_psn said in To offline players:
@bk2025_psn said in To offline players:
I seen a lot of posts of "oh I only play offline, and how can this program be done offline..."
I just don't get this concept. DD is meant to be online. I don't play RS often but do dive into BR and def a lot of Events.
If you are playing offline, what's the fun? to get a better team to beat the same missions, conquest or vs CPU all over again???
I'm just not understanding playing ONLY offline and never wanting to play vs people even if it can be toxic players online ie bunt dances pausing etc. For the most part the players you face online play fair and it's really not hard to get some wins in an event or stats to complete the programs.
Agreed, only playing offline is just wimpy. Like sitting down to pee
It’s not wimpy. There are reasons for why people choose to play only offline. I don’t have time that I can dedicate to play a game without interruptions. I use a TV with bad input lag so I don’t feel like getting destroyed every game because I’m going to be spammed fastballs knowing I can’t keep up. Also, I don’t care to play against other people. I play video games to relax and not have to deal with cheesers that use every exploit possible.
Get a monitor and play events.
I’d rather play on my 55” tv while on my comfy sofa than sit in a chair and play on a small monitor. I already have to do that for work. I don’t want to do that after work.
This, 100%. F’ the separate set up.
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@thegoaler_psn said in To offline players:
The OP must think everyone is the same.
I don't like shaved poozy, but don't go asking why do people like that over bushy ones.
Offline is still fun and there's a lot to do thanks to Parallels.
The AI will drive you nuts, but it's still satisfying.
Remember this one MAJOR point.
A lot of us started gaming when there was no online until around 1999 with NFL 2K on the Dreamcast.
Offline gaming is our roots, so some of us stick to them.
I would definitely wanna go get a beer with you if this was in person. -
I played online in the past. I wasn’t very good, but more importantly to me I hated the $&&$holes I encountered doing it. I have played exclusively offline the past few years and I enjoy it. I collect all of the cards every year and use them all against the CPU and have a blast doing it. And like others have said I can play when I want, pause for as long as I want, and get reasonably consistent gameplay. I don’t feel like I am missing out on anything.
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OK...so I have been thinking about all this offline/online stuff lately. Like I have mentioned I am someone who more preferred offline, but has started playing more and more online for different reasons.
Does anyone know why there is not an offline season mode for DD? Having that mode would not cause me to spend less stubs than I do now...but I guess maybe it could for others? I just know this...I played an "Extra Innings" game yesterday and it was probably the most fun I have had playing in a long time.
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I play DD because of the Legends. Same with Madden and MUT. I play MUT offline because of the Legends.
Can't use the Legends in other modes (I don't believe)
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@bk2025_psn said in To offline players:
I seen a lot of posts of "oh I only play offline, and how can this program be done offline..."
I just don't get this concept. DD is meant to be online. I don't play RS often but do dive into BR and def a lot of Events.
If you are playing offline, what's the fun? to get a better team to beat the same missions, conquest or vs CPU all over again???
I'm just not understanding playing ONLY offline and never wanting to play vs people even if it can be toxic players online ie bunt dances pausing etc. For the most part the players you face online play fair and it's really not hard to get some wins in an event or stats to complete the programs.
You don't have to understand though. People who enjoy playing baseball simulators are not always as good as you are. Some people have little tolerance for knuckleheads online. I have serious post concussion issues, working memory loss, and extremely poor hand eye coordination. I still like baseball and would like to play the game. In my case, if can't get a card because I would have to play an online game or on all star, then I just won't get the card. There are plenty of other ones out there for me to get. I learned to flip cards, which I actually like doing, to get players I want that couldn't win in events. We all have different abilities, but can find a way to enjoy the game.
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@bjd10048842_psn said in To offline players:
@bk2025_psn said in To offline players:
I seen a lot of posts of "oh I only play offline, and how can this program be done offline..."
I just don't get this concept. DD is meant to be online. I don't play RS often but do dive into BR and def a lot of Events.
If you are playing offline, what's the fun? to get a better team to beat the same missions, conquest or vs CPU all over again???
I'm just not understanding playing ONLY offline and never wanting to play vs people even if it can be toxic players online ie bunt dances pausing etc. For the most part the players you face online play fair and it's really not hard to get some wins in an event or stats to complete the programs.
Agreed, only playing offline is just wimpy. Like sitting down to pee
^^^^Poor attempt at trying to be clever^^^^
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@bjd10048842_psn said in To offline players:
@bk2025_psn said in To offline players:
I seen a lot of posts of "oh I only play offline, and how can this program be done offline..."
I just don't get this concept. DD is meant to be online. I don't play RS often but do dive into BR and def a lot of Events.
If you are playing offline, what's the fun? to get a better team to beat the same missions, conquest or vs CPU all over again???
I'm just not understanding playing ONLY offline and never wanting to play vs people even if it can be toxic players online ie bunt dances pausing etc. For the most part the players you face online play fair and it's really not hard to get some wins in an event or stats to complete the programs.
Agreed, only playing offline is just wimpy. Like sitting down to pee
When I’m dead tired and need to take a whiz in the middle of the night, I’ve never once thought to myself, “It’ll be wimpy if I sit down and pee.” That’s what a severely insecure and fragile guy would think.
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If the DD H2H RS gaming experience was better, then I would play online more. But I have avoided online RS for a while, mostly due to the laggy/warping pitches found in many online matches (why is this?). This is in addition the the bunt dancers, rage quitters, pause boys, etc...
I agree that DD is ultimately meant to be played in H2H RS, so I plan to do that, I just do not look forward to the frustration that comes with it. I still enjoy grinding and collecting cards, for now. I will eventually play BR for a bit before jumping into RS, just to get my timing down... as offline vs CPU plays nothing like online H2H.
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@bk2025_psn said in To offline players:
If you are playing offline, what's the fun? to get a better team to beat the same missions, conquest or vs CPU all over again???
I'm just not understanding playing ONLY offline and never wanting to play vs people even if it can be toxic players online ie bunt dances pausing etc. For the most part the players you face online play fair and it's really not hard to get some wins in an event or stats to complete the programs.
You do realize that computer games were at one time only offline and gasp people still enjoyed playing them? You think Pac-Man and Space Invaders were played online?
I find playing offline less stressful and I still enjoy building a team and hitting bombs with that team. I don't complain either way... I love that the game gives us opportunities to build a team using both online and offline.
But don't tell me which way I should enjoy playing.
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Get a better team to beat the same AI teams, conquests, etc. How is that any different than getting a better team to face the same lineups and either Cabrera or deGrom every game?
I dabble in online occasionally but I stick mainly to offline or unranked matches against friends. People can play how they want, I don’t see people getting ragged on for being strictly a franchise or RttS player.