Showdown has got to go
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@the_dragon1912 said in Showdown has got to go:
@ladyswampfox_xbl said in Showdown has got to go:
I’d like to point out that if SDS hadn’t done this—if they hadn’t forced offline players to choose between dealing with showdown or playing online—we wouldn’t be arguing about it in the first place. Like making someone choose between having something heavy drop on their foot, or shutting a car door on their hand. Another reason why it’s a despicable move on their part.
Thats not true. This discussion happens twice a week
This week it’s different. It’s not just that showdown is frustrating for some of us.
It’s that SDS is forcing offline players to choose between two things they hate in order to complete a program.
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@mrad2010_xbl said in Showdown has got to go:
@lischynski_psn said in Showdown has got to go:
@mrad2010_xbl said in Showdown has got to go:
Ok. Instead of disagreeing how about this. The people who are good at showdown and have beaten it already. What are some of your tips? Best starting perks,etc.
You can always go for a bunt cheese squad if you are having trouble with a normal lineup. Take speedy guys who can drag bunt and take perks that improve your stealing, etc.
Good idea. I’ve had terrible luck on it so far. Tried to get a squeeze bunt and they turned it into a triple play lol.
I’ve tried several times with Lou Brock and it’s been a low success rate. It’s also baffling how he can’t successfully steal a base for me for the one moment that requires either two hits or a stolen base. It’s like he’s live television in that he’s on a seven second delay.
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@crash447_xbl said in Showdown has got to go:
@mrad2010_xbl said in Showdown has got to go:
Ok. Instead of disagreeing how about this. The people who are good at showdown and have beaten it already. What are some of your tips? Best starting perks,etc.
-The only perk I care about is exit velocity and I try to pick the ones that will be used most often. For instance I don't always jump on the one that is 7th inning or later, because not all take place late in the game.
-I try and be as patient as possible. I feel like with showdown you tend to get pitches way out of the zone or somewhat meatballs that you can drive. It is pretty easy to get yourself in a 2-0 count and then get great pitches to drive.
-I draft based on hitters/swings I know I like. I don't look for power only like some people, because having someone I am confident in is more important to me.
-I play people out of position to maximize hitters. It is very rare that you actually have to play the field on Showdown. I had Piazza in my lineup in CF. You also are always the away team, so you can hit someone high in the order and replace them after the first if you do have to play the field and are concerned about it.The 7th inning and later perks are great for the final boss. I didnt realize until it was mentioned on this forum, but it's always "on" for the final boss. I will stack every exit velocity perk I can get. The best one is the exit velocity on normal swings. I usually try to get that one, the 7th inning one, and either the first 2 pitches, or the one when losing perk.
I also will make sure I put my runner in motion when I get someone on first to attempt to avoid double plays. I wait until it's either a 2 ball or 2 strike count to send them, as they will never pitch out in those counts. I make sure to have at least one player on the bench that can steal bases when needed, along with another speedy runner. I put them in for the go ahead run, and sometimes the tying run. I dont test OF arms unless I have to, because they always will throw you out with perfect throws.
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I like them. They are relatively easy but they are fun when they are challenging.
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Ok. I’m going to eat some crow here. After nine attempts, I finally got it done. I went in to the final showdown down by 8 and managed to get it done with 9 outs left. I did have three good bunters in my lineup (Lofton, Aparicio, and Brock). Once I got a homer with Yermin Mercedes, I was off to the races. While I still hate showdowns with a passion, I was able to get it done and now have Clemente. Thank you to everyone for the advice. PS, I don’t know what it is but I can not pitch with Felix to save my life.
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@bsmith4263_psn said in Showdown has got to go:
Stop trying to force these modes that people hate on us. They should be optional to complete a program (for offline players). Moments are the worst. No one says, "I can't wait for more moments". They say, "I HAVE to do these real quick to get back to playing what I actually enjoy".
If you're going to force showdown on us, you can't let disconnects lead to not getting the runs or failing completely. This has happened to me several times. For a casual player like me, runs are crucial. Maybe I am wrong and just venting because I hate this mode and it is causing me stress that I won't complete a program but I think I have some valid points that SDS needs to hear.Get better internet.....
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@johnny_coletrain said in Showdown has got to go:
I lost 1500 stubs on that FOD Showdown before saying to he!! with it and 1000 on 5th inning. Will never do another. Struggled through and got 5 my Event wins (thanks to the one guy that lost connection and gave me a win - You're my boy Blue).
Moments are the bane of my existence, there's not many people i'd like to punch in the throa...but the creator of those.... (J/K, but not really, J/K)
I don't mind Ranked Seasons...cool to see who others have on their teams. I suck, I win a few here and there, but I'm not out to make World Series...that ain't happening, i enjoy playing cpu but it can get monotonous from time to time.
2500 stubs you can easily get back in 1 minute in the marketplace lol
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This thread is ridiculous. OP is complaining about 2 different offline grind mission types and its not enough still. Basically the post reads "please give me endless conquest maps and let me mindlessly drone against the CPU to obtain any card I want."
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If I fail once, I'm not trying again unless we need the Clemente card for Inning Program XP. Even then.....
I'm waiting until I'm off to try so my hands can heal from punching walls 🤪 -
@el-fiama-bianca_xbl said in Showdown has got to go:
@bsmith4263_psn said in Showdown has got to go:
Stop trying to force these modes that people hate on us. They should be optional to complete a program (for offline players). Moments are the worst. No one says, "I can't wait for more moments". They say, "I HAVE to do these real quick to get back to playing what I actually enjoy".
If you're going to force showdown on us, you can't let disconnects lead to not getting the runs or failing completely. This has happened to me several times. For a casual player like me, runs are crucial. Maybe I am wrong and just venting because I hate this mode and it is causing me stress that I won't complete a program but I think I have some valid points that SDS needs to hear.Get better internet.....
I have a top notch wired connection. That is not the issue.
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@raylewissb47_psn said in Showdown has got to go:
Ok. I’m going to eat some crow here. After nine attempts, I finally got it done. I went in to the final showdown down by 8 and managed to get it done with 9 outs left. I did have three good bunters in my lineup (Lofton, Aparicio, and Brock). Once I got a homer with Yermin Mercedes, I was off to the races. While I still hate showdowns with a passion, I was able to get it done and now have Clemente. Thank you to everyone for the advice. PS, I don’t know what it is but I can not pitch with Felix to save my life.
Yeah I beat it every now and then when I try, it's still a garbage mode that most hate. But you will always have the 'world beaters' and brownnosers pumping it up.
It sucks
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@poksey_mlbts said in Showdown has got to go:
@maskedgrappler said in Showdown has got to go:
@poksey_mlbts said in Showdown has got to go:
@xxdeathreyxx_psn said in Showdown has got to go:
@poksey_mlbts said in Showdown has got to go:
I've never understood the hatred toward Showdown and I guess I never will.
Its the all or nothing aspect. Who has time for that?
I dont get that argument at all. I've said this before, but I suppose it's due to the games I played growing up all being this way. Galaga (or Asteroids, or Centipede, or Mrs Pac Man, or whatever countless other games) were all built the same way. You played until you were out of lives, and had to start over from the beginning.
I see Showdown for what it is, a boss battle game where it's not completed until you beat the final boss. To me, there shouldnt be restart points, or save points. I don't see the problem with it, but then again, I'm just an old guy who grew up with games being that way.
I grew up on that stuff too. I was a kid then with all the time in the world. As an adult I no longer have the endless time to do things over and over. I no longer play games for a challenge, its why I started playing story based games on the easiest difficulty.
It's frustrating to waste the little time you have to play and come away feeling like you accomplished nothing.
Then I dont know what you want from the game. Rookie mode with every pitch a 79 mph center-cut meatball? I wouldnt find that fun at all. Video games need to be challenging in some way to keep you invested.
Agreed and why should you be rewarded with great cards like Felix or Clemente with this type of attitude?
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After reading this what if showdown had a option that if you fail at the mini boss you could pay say 750 stubs and retry the mini boss and if you failed at the final boss you could pay 1000 stubs to retry the final boss? That might eliminate some of the frustration of having to always restart from the beginning.
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The good news is now you don’t need to do the showdown or play in events to get the Field of Dreams program done.
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@raylewissb47_psn said in Showdown has got to go:
The good news is now you don’t need to do the showdown or play in events to get the Field of Dreams program done.
Why? Did they make a change?
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@xxdeathreyxx_psn said in Showdown has got to go:
@raylewissb47_psn said in Showdown has got to go:
The good news is now you don’t need to do the showdown or play in events to get the Field of Dreams program done.
Why? Did they make a change?
They added more moments to the program for the game yesterday.
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@pscrabro_mlbts said in Showdown has got to go:
It's not like the only option is Showdown... you could skip showdown and play online for the points or skip online and play showdown. I like showdown a lot better than moments. They are never going to just giveaway 99s.... you have to play a little bit to earn them.
That's fine. Just give offline stat missions, too. They can make them ten times more than offline. I don't care. Just give us the option.
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@raylewissb47_psn said in Showdown has got to go:
@crash447_xbl said in Showdown has got to go:
Not trying to say anyone is right or wrong in this deal...just trying to provide a different perspective, especially if SDS really does read this stuff. In my opinion this has been a very fair and pretty cool program. It really is a bit of everything and there are an few ways to get to the end of it. Diamond Dynasty is not an online mode and it is not an offline mode...it is a mode designed around card collecting and some cards are obtained online and some offline. There are programs like Topps Now, POTM, Daily Moments, Evolution, etc. that really are only offline and an "online" player has to to play offline if they want those cards. There is a path with this program that allows a fully "offline" player to complete the program...where there are many programs that do not give the "online" player the same luxury.
I understand where you are coming from. It would be great for SDS to offer more online options to complete those programs for online players. I think the big thing is they snuck in that requirement and you wouldn’t notice until you did the math that you would be short without showdown or online.
The point is that if you're an "offline" player, you're good enough to do the online portion. Many "online" players are not good enough to win in online. That's why we play offline. Just offer two or three stat missions to match the 3 online stat missions. They can be harder if that's a concern. I don't care. Just want the same options.
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@mrad2010_xbl said in Showdown has got to go:
@raylewissb47_psn said in Showdown has got to go:
@ironeyes_cody_mlbts said in Showdown has got to go:
@bsmith4263_psn said in Showdown has got to go:
Stop trying to force these modes that people hate on us. They should be optional to complete a program (for offline players). Moments are the worst. No one says, "I can't wait for more moments". They say, "I HAVE to do these real quick to get back to playing what I actually enjoy".
If you're going to force showdown on us, you can't let disconnects lead to not getting the runs or failing completely. This has happened to me several times. For a casual player like me, runs are crucial. Maybe I am wrong and just venting because I hate this mode and it is causing me stress that I won't complete a program but I think I have some valid points that SDS needs to hear.I believe SDS is merely trying to spread some variety to the many diverse gamers out here and their ever spanning thirst for quantity not quality.
Just give Showdown a chance. The Devs are doing the best they can to be creative and accommodating to all. It's a tightrope they must walk.
I have played that showdown five times now. Three times I failed the first mini boss. The other two I failed at the second mini boss. So much time wasted for nothing. Go ahead and flame me for being bad at the game. I never sniffed online to bother anyone else online playing the game. I have zero issues doing more moments (which I know many players hate) or higher stat missions to make up for it.
Don’t feel bad man. I’ve been struggling with this showdown too. Also I Love the user name.
I've tried twice. First time it said I had around 900,000 outs to beat Henke. Then whin I started it was an exhibition game(I guess) with Grisham of Padres leading off. The second time said the opponent had an invalid lineup. 1000 stubs lost without ever playing.
