I will not be switching to Madden
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When Ultimate Team, My Team, Diamond Dynasty etc. See the revenues fall, sports games will get better. So my advice is don’t hold your breath, too many whales out there.
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CDNMoneyMaker93replied to whitejw98 on Aug 10, 2021, 11:21 AM last edited by CDNMoneyMaker93_XBL Aug 10, 2021, 11:22 AM
@whitejw98_psn said in I will not be switching to Madden:
I find it amusing how hard it is for the community to wrap their brains around the fact that there are plenty of people out there who love both baseball and football, and don't feel the need to lock themselves into a childish fanboy war where they must choose one or the other. I'd be willing to bet that if you examined the player bases of the two games, you'd find a significant amount of overlap with many players putting a ton of time into both. I'm thinking of buying madden, but I have no intention of leaving this game anytime soon. It doesn't have to be either or.
It's the same garage with the console wars it's a made up thing by fanboys.
I am willing to bet that members of SDS even play Madden in their down time.
It's gaming you play what you want to play to enjoy and relax. If that's MLB great, if that's Madden great, if it's Lego Star Wars even better.
Point is play what you want and enjoy it and try not to [censored] in other people's corn flakes please
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I will also not be switching to madden. Madden 21 had a .3 user score which was the lowest in history for any game I believe. Madden is completely braindead.
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Im at the point that if someone were to give me a free copy of madden I wouldnt play it. Been 5 years now since being madden free. What a ride but man, really worth my sanity in the end.
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I used to be a diehard sim Madden guy . Quit around 6 years ago I think . Got so sick of the same bs every year and it became more arcade as time went on. My favorite was when they would take a feature out then bring it back in and call it new. F that game.
Go Raiders ! Lol...
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It seems to me that SDS foreseeing the wave of Madden players leaving MLB for new rosters and a wish and a prayer of better gameplay in Madden is cutting prices on Stubs thru the 18th to rival that surge is opting for a viable alternative. Good move by SDS. Give SDS their just due, better content better sales of coins/stubs and a fairly reliable game. However, that being said, had SDS NOT nerfed the contact swing and kept things status quo the ship jumping wouldn't even have even entered MLB player's minds, at least not my own. Madden was a dead horse not even worth beating after the debacle Madden 21 was yet SDS opened a door needlessly with the anti contact swing update and the swell of folks leaving percentage wise went up exponentially. Instead MLB became just another Madden game by introducing the nerfed hitting, stale gameplay and domination of AI CPU locked animations and cheats. Perhaps they just got lazy? Up until the contact swing update degrading of the game I was ready to forego Madden 22, This would have been my first No Madden year since Madden 97! But as a sports fan who loves baseball and football on equal footing the lure of Madden 22 pre order overwhelmed my self control or lack thereof and I am destined to play BOTH games in the near future. You can after all have the best of both worlds without all the fanboy antics known to such forums as this. Let's just say, if SDS ever introduces SpongeBob into ti's game they will have lost a broader audience who believe a mature sports simulation game is what drives their fanbase, ........ EA devs are not wise enough to make such evaluations about locking into serious fan bases. We debate the good and not so good between the games here because we take our buying & playing the game seriously. Perhaps lighten up on the fanboy expressions and give others credit, many of us LOVE both sports and are genuinely torn between which is to be the dominant game we invest in as September arrives. You make your choice and let others make their own choices based on personal likes and dislikes and personal choice. After all these are just sports video games not your best friend ditching your sister for the other pretty girl because she has big B**Bs LOL AND NHL 22 & NBA 2K comes soon after Madden releases thus again riling the fanboys ire hahahahahahahaha
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I play all 4 majors, but skipped Maddens '20 & '21. NHL is my main and one I play all year around.
My Bucs won the SB, so I'm tempted to end my Madden boycott, but mainly for the trophies/achievements. I just don't want to shell out $70 for about 3 weeks of playing a game I'll be kicking myself for buying! -
I never played the game this far into the year, I am learning something new right now about the community.
So, is a thing huh? A forum of mostly grown-men playing Twilight over Madden and MLB TS. Weird...
I am interested to see what improvements are made for Next Gen to Madden, but I am not holding my breath that Madden's defense nor run-blocking awareness will improv. Maybe it's because I coach/played football and not baseball, but I can deal with the bunt dance and weird stupid [censored] people attempt in MLB TS
I'll never get-over Zone defenders not actually defending guys within their zones and transitioning their man to the next zone defender (like it was in NCAA Football). I have also grown tired of not being able to change blocking schemes when dudes try to stop ISO by lining up in double 2s and other terrible alignments that only work because of bad AI awareness.
Time will tell, I'll be playing both -- probably team play with my brothers. I do imagine that I'll lean more towards MLB TS or just take a sports-game break from November-March. When do they stop creating content for the game?
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@arvcpa_psn said in I will not be switching to Madden:
Since everyone is posting about their Madden intentions, I am just here to say that I will not be switching. I will play inning 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10. I will finish TA4, 5, 6.... I will attempt Extreme. I will collect whatever collections remain. I will continue to happily flail at high sinkers and 102 fastballs.
I'm sure you're all relieved to know what it is that I will or will not be doing for the rest of this game cycle. You're welcome.
Lol. Make sure you keep everyone updated weekly with your progress. The only reason people come to these forums to to see what you are doing in the game.
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aaronjw76replied to TheGoaler on Aug 10, 2021, 12:44 PM last edited by aaronjw76_MLBTS Aug 10, 2021, 12:45 PM
@thegoaler_psn said in I will not be switching to Madden:
I play all 4 majors, but skipped Maddens '20 & '21. NHL is my main and one I play all year around.
My Bucs won the SB, so I'm tempted to end my Madden boycott, but mainly for the trophies/achievements. I just don't want to shell out $70 for about 3 weeks of playing a game I'll be kicking myself for buying!I'd never touched madden or the show if NHL had a connected franchise mode.
Madden is the only one that offers a truly immersive (vastly improved this year and but still a long way to go) online franchise option. It offers me a great break from the win at all cost mindset of ultimate team.
There is no question that content and gameplay of the show are better than Madden but the show is stale and boring af right now. The changes to high sinkers, change ups, and curve balls will do nothing to alleviate that boredom for me. There's a problem with the game when people stop playing a game mode once they reach X difficulty. Reaching X difficulty should encourage people to keep pushing but not in the show lol
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so icy42replied to Patria-NY7 on Aug 10, 2021, 1:16 PM last edited by so icy42_XBL Aug 10, 2021, 1:17 PM
@patria-ny7_psn said in I will not be switching to Madden:
However, that being said, had SDS NOT nerfed the contact swing and kept things status quo the ship jumping wouldn't even have even entered MLB player's minds, at least not my own. Madden was a dead horse not even worth beating after the debacle Madden 21 was yet SDS opened a door needlessly with the anti contact swing update and the swell of folks leaving percentage wise went up exponentially. Instead MLB became just another Madden game by introducing the nerfed hitting, stale gameplay and domination of AI CPU locked animations and cheats. Perhaps they just got lazy? Up until the contact swing update degrading of the game I was ready to forego Madden 22,
Wait so you think being able to “contact swing” and hit BOMBS regularly was a realistic/good thing?? What’s the point of having normal or power swing in that case? Why not just have one swing. There was absolutely no upside in using power or normal before they nerfed it and that’s ridiculous. A contact swing is supposed to be a compact swing that you use when behind in the count to decrease the likelihood of striking out. Thus the trade off in power. I heard wayyyyyy more people complaining about it being overpowered and you’re the first I’ve seen that didn’t want it nerfed so I’m not so sure you’re correct in assuming there will be an exodus due to that update. It was a very cheap way to play the game and I say good riddance.
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@arvcpa_psn said in I will not be switching to Madden:
Since everyone is posting about their Madden intentions, I am just here to say that I will not be switching. I will play inning 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10. I will finish TA4, 5, 6.... I will attempt Extreme. I will collect whatever collections remain. I will continue to happily flail at high sinkers and 102 fastballs.
I'm sure you're all relieved to know what it is that I will or will not be doing for the rest of this game cycle. You're welcome.
Well, I can't say that I will play all the remaining innings but I sure as hell won't be playing Madden. I tanked to 450 and couldn't hit DeGrom yet again last night (love the laggy, warping [censored]) although just several weeks I put up 10 in 1 2/3 inning on HOF. If the lag and bad connections continue like this, I will just move to PUBG or watch TV and movies.
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Madden isnt good anymore. 2K worth playing though.
All the sports games have gameplay issues but madden is bad in the whole mut mode setup. Solos, packs, sets. Thats it. That’s mut.
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@ibonafidescrub_ said in I will not be switching to Madden:
@arvcpa_psn said in I will not be switching to Madden:
Since everyone is posting about their Madden intentions, I am just here to say that I will not be switching. I will play inning 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10. I will finish TA4, 5, 6.... I will attempt Extreme. I will collect whatever collections remain. I will continue to happily flail at high sinkers and 102 fastballs.
I'm sure you're all relieved to know what it is that I will or will not be doing for the rest of this game cycle. You're welcome.
Well, high sinkers, changeups and curveballs will be nerfed this morning, good news my man
For real? Any idea how they will be nerfed? Interested to see.
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@knoxwurst31_psn said in I will not be switching to Madden:
@ibonafidescrub_ said in I will not be switching to Madden:
@arvcpa_psn said in I will not be switching to Madden:
Since everyone is posting about their Madden intentions, I am just here to say that I will not be switching. I will play inning 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10. I will finish TA4, 5, 6.... I will attempt Extreme. I will collect whatever collections remain. I will continue to happily flail at high sinkers and 102 fastballs.
I'm sure you're all relieved to know what it is that I will or will not be doing for the rest of this game cycle. You're welcome.
Well, high sinkers, changeups and curveballs will be nerfed this morning, good news my man
For real? Any idea how they will be nerfed? Interested to see.
According to the patch notes they will decrease the break on those pitches when aimed to be thrown high in the zone. Let’s see how it plays out, update was deployed this morning
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Great thread OP.
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@knoxwurst31_psn said in I will not be switching to Madden:
@ibonafidescrub_ said in I will not be switching to Madden:
@arvcpa_psn said in I will not be switching to Madden:
Since everyone is posting about their Madden intentions, I am just here to say that I will not be switching. I will play inning 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10. I will finish TA4, 5, 6.... I will attempt Extreme. I will collect whatever collections remain. I will continue to happily flail at high sinkers and 102 fastballs.
I'm sure you're all relieved to know what it is that I will or will not be doing for the rest of this game cycle. You're welcome.
Well, high sinkers, changeups and curveballs will be nerfed this morning, good news my man
For real? Any idea how they will be nerfed? Interested to see.
Higher the aiming, it moves less.
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The last console Madden I bought was 04 and one for the Psp in 08. I mainly did franchise because I don't have any friends who like sports or sport games other than NBA Jam or NES hockey lol
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"Wait so you think being able to “contact swing” and hit BOMBS regularly was a realistic/good thing?? What’s the point of having normal or power swing in that case? Why not just have one swing. There was absolutely no upside in using power or normal before they nerfed it and that’s ridiculous. A contact swing is supposed to be a compact swing that you use when behind in the count to decrease the likelihood of striking out. Thus the trade off in power. I heard wayyyyyy more people complaining about it being overpowered and you’re the first I’ve seen that didn’t want it nerfed so I’m not so sure you’re correct in assuming there will be an exodus due to that update. It was a very cheap way to play the game and I say good riddance. " So this is where you and I disagree, I believe as I have witnessed in real life baseball that YES many bombs are in fact hit using a lesser aggressive swing /contact swing than meets the eye. Not all, but certainly significantly. Example, what a contact swing could accomplish in OLD Yankee Stadium (pre 1985) vs today's Yankee Stadium are vastly different. In fact in the 60's and 70's Yankee Stadium where the fences were 457 and 461 feet from home plate now only 399 and 408 ft separate home plate from a HR. Today Stanton Judge Voit etc etc even the likes of a Torres can emass a HR in new stadiums in MLB including Yankee Stadium via the contact swing (even broken bat HRs) it is in fact natural to expect BOMBS can be hit with a contact swing executed in the proper manner. But what I am saying goes further than the narrow view you are talking about here, it is not just BOMBS being hit using contact vs normal and power swings thus making them obsolete. NO, SDS when they removed the contact swings efficacy also removed much of the other residual effects of the contact swing and lent itself towards a locked animations set in the game where double plays and lofted/half hearted fly balls and even perfect perfect swings suffered as well. It just became too soft over all in hitting prowess and dumbed down the abilities of hitting overall. I still hit BOMBS with contact swing, it is there still just not as numerous perhaps. My observation is that the gameplay from an offensive standpoint deteriorated exponentially after the update against contact swing efficacy. That is what I have experienced. Now, if say in some quest to obtain 8 extra base hits for a certain player in order to get 5 points and further progress in a program the boosted contact swing gets me closer to that objective faster so for example I get a choice pack or better yet a Kitchen sink choice pack, GREAT! Bombs away that is why we play the game to gain rewards!!!! So I get to that objective with say Gallo in half the at bats because I am contact swinging HRs, more power to me. The objective is to succeed achieve accomplish goals .............. who wins if that is nerfed???????? SDS. By curtailing your ability, they draw out your attentions to the game and consume your valuable time which could say be used for spending time with family friends recreating etc etc. All in all, what I am saying is not conducive with what you infer that I am saying at least not totally. I am saying the contact swing nerf dropped the game into a unavoidable hole of locked animations, dull scripted gameplay which is predicated on those animations and AI generated cheats and sufferable outcomes rather than efficacious outcomes resulting in greater enjoyment, ya' know Fun! Have a good day my friend.
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There's more to madden than just mut.
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