Man SDS messed this one up badly. Super bummed.
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Regardless of hope you feel about pitching input, OP is 100% correct on stamina. 148 pitches in one gave is ridiculous.
Location of pitches is a little out of control…
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@twisted-_-tea-_psn said in Man SDS messed this one up badly. Super bummed.:
@jacksonvance35 said in Man SDS messed this one up badly. Super bummed.:
@twisted-_-tea-_psn said in Man SDS messed this one up badly. Super bummed.:
Pinpoint is not the issue. There’s a pretty good skill gap with pinpoint. Especially since the update making it hard to get perfects. Better players give up less runs because they don’t leave that slider over the heart of the plate every few innings. Bad players do. More of a skill gap that pure analog. Felt like the moonshot event with no control of any pitch
You had trouble with control during the moonshot event? I’ve got commons with sub 2 era thanks to that event lol
Not control issues but just giving up tons of runs in past games because of analog hanging pitches. If you’re good at the game and using pinpoint you should locate. Simple as that. Just because it’s harder for casuals to hit doesn’t mean it’s a huge mistake by sds
Who said anything about casuals? I know plenty of folks playing this game a lot(including myself) and are top 50 dudes in years past and even a few in this years game that all say the same things about pinpoint.
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I just want the privilege of read and react, selling for fastballs isn’t cool
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@twisted-_-tea-_psn said in Man SDS messed this one up badly. Super bummed.:
Pinpoint is not the issue. There’s a pretty good skill gap with pinpoint. Especially since the update making it hard to get perfects. Better players give up less runs because they don’t leave that slider over the heart of the plate every few innings. Bad players do. More of a skill gap that pure analog. Felt like the moonshot event with no control of any pitch
It is folks like you who do not care a fig about realism that caused this problem in the first place. All you care about is skill gap, not the fact that using pinpoint allows a person to be better at pitching than anyone in the history of MLB.
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Stamina is the only problem with pinpoint
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@twisted-_-tea-_psn said in Man SDS messed this one up badly. Super bummed.:
Pinpoint is not the issue. There’s a pretty good skill gap with pinpoint. Especially since the update making it hard to get perfects. Better players give up less runs because they don’t leave that slider over the heart of the plate every few innings. Bad players do. More of a skill gap that pure analog. Felt like the moonshot event with no control of any pitch
All MLB pitchers leave the ball over the heart of the plate occasionally. The fact that "good players" do not, if proof that the mechanic is broken.
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I agree with everything the OP said, and I know he is super talented at this game.
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@twisted-_-tea-_psn said in Man SDS messed this one up badly. Super bummed.:
Pinpoint is not the issue. There’s a pretty good skill gap with pinpoint. Especially since the update making it hard to get perfects. Better players give up less runs because they don’t leave that slider over the heart of the plate every few innings. Bad players do. More of a skill gap that pure analog. Felt like the moonshot event with no control of any pitch
No, no, no.
When you can get perfect placement on 80% accuracy with perfect release that's not a skill gap. That's a broken mechanic.
This is PPP in a nutshell:
How'd you do on that test?
I got perfect.
Wow, you got every question right?
No, I got 5 wrong.Perfect needs to mean something.
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@twisted-_-tea-_psn said in Man SDS messed this one up badly. Super bummed.:
@jacksonvance35 said in Man SDS messed this one up badly. Super bummed.:
@twisted-_-tea-_psn said in Man SDS messed this one up badly. Super bummed.:
Pinpoint is not the issue. There’s a pretty good skill gap with pinpoint. Especially since the update making it hard to get perfects. Better players give up less runs because they don’t leave that slider over the heart of the plate every few innings. Bad players do. More of a skill gap that pure analog. Felt like the moonshot event with no control of any pitch
You had trouble with control during the moonshot event? I’ve got commons with sub 2 era thanks to that event lol
Not control issues but just giving up tons of runs in past games because of analog hanging pitches. If you’re good at the game and using pinpoint you should locate. Simple as that. Just because it’s harder for casuals to hit doesn’t mean it’s a huge mistake by sds
seems like you enjoy pinpoint..i see more perfect perfects on pinpoint than pure analog...when pinpoint was supposedly harder so that's why they gave the benefit of most accurate.
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Just a thought - the "skill gap" in pitching should be pitch mix and locations to keep hitters off-balance, not the "skill" in repetitively doing a gesture on a thumbstick.
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@duiaintez_psn said in Man SDS messed this one up badly. Super bummed.:
Just a thought - the "skill gap" in pitching should be pitch mix and locations to keep hitters off-balance, not the "skill" in repetitively doing a gesture on a thumbstick.
True, but before pinpoint it didn't matter how good you were at keeping hitters off balance or mixing your pitches. 7 out of 10 pitches in MLB 20 would just float down the middle regardless of input
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@oreorockstar_psn said in Man SDS messed this one up badly. Super bummed.:
I agree with everything the OP said, and I know he is super talented at this game.
Thank you dude. Hope your WS run went well yesterday bro!
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I like pitching. Pitching is what has always been my strongest part of the game. But it hasn’t really been fun ONLY having 2-1 games. Even if I’m dominating on the mound to be honest. Hitting is what will keep this game fun, as much as I hate admitting it haha. I hope it gets better for this community. This game can be extremely fun when it’s working the right way!
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@the_dragon1912 said in Man SDS messed this one up badly. Super bummed.:
@duiaintez_psn said in Man SDS messed this one up badly. Super bummed.:
Just a thought - the "skill gap" in pitching should be pitch mix and locations to keep hitters off-balance, not the "skill" in repetitively doing a gesture on a thumbstick.
True, but before pinpoint it didn't matter how good you were at keeping hitters off balance or mixing your pitches. 7 out of 10 pitches in MLB 20 would just float down the middle regardless of input
I am glad they tried to fix this issue. It was needed. I just think there has to be a middle ground of some sort with it. Guys shouldn’t carve you up only on the basis that they can flip their thumb. It should take more skill to be perfect on the bump.
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Another thing I want to add about pinpoint is that everyone says it's so OP, but then only end up complaining about Degrom, Cabrera, etc. sounds to me like the real problem is outlier. Very rarely to you see a pinpoint complaint about Cliff Lee. Pinpoint is fine. Stamina with pinpoint, Outlier, and Sinkers are the problem. Sinkers haven't gotten fixed in 5 years so I've just accepted that one.
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@the_dragon1912 said in Man SDS messed this one up badly. Super bummed.:
Another thing I want to add about pinpoint is that everyone says it's so OP, but then only end up complaining about Degrom, Cabrera, etc. sounds to me like the real problem is outlier. Very rarely to you see a pinpoint complaint about Cliff Lee. Pinpoint is fine. Stamina with pinpoint, Outlier, and Sinkers are the problem. Sinkers haven't gotten fixed in 5 years so I've just accepted that one.
This is a great point. And what makes outlier op? Connections and server issues. Even with lag, hitting Cliff Lee is usually not a problem. Connection issues with outlier opponent, might as well quit the game.
Sinkers and stamina are issues too, pinpoint is not the problem.
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@kommandernkeef9 said in Man SDS messed this one up badly. Super bummed.:
@oreorockstar_psn said in Man SDS messed this one up badly. Super bummed.:
I agree with everything the OP said, and I know he is super talented at this game.
Thank you dude. Hope your WS run went well yesterday bro!
Thanks man, it went terrible. Think I got to 868 or something than every other game was the warping Degrom fastballs that were impossible to hit unless you sell out 100% (I have seen Degrom 50x so I know what it should look like and what it does when it is messed up), and the sweaty games with 8 total hits and whomever runs into the homer is going to win.....Awful....
I brought it on myself in waiting until 2-3 days to season end to try to cram all the games in....doesn't allow the time to clear the head of the frustration when this stuff happens which is needed to overcome it...
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@the_dragon1912 said in Man SDS messed this one up badly. Super bummed.:
Another thing I want to add about pinpoint is that everyone says it's so OP, but then only end up complaining about Degrom, Cabrera, etc. sounds to me like the real problem is outlier. Very rarely to you see a pinpoint complaint about Cliff Lee. Pinpoint is fine. Stamina with pinpoint, Outlier, and Sinkers are the problem. Sinkers haven't gotten fixed in 5 years so I've just accepted that one.
Fair point...Take out the 3-4 meta pitches and you have a fighting chance to overcome pinpoint
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@oreorockstar_psn said in Man SDS messed this one up badly. Super bummed.:
@the_dragon1912 said in Man SDS messed this one up badly. Super bummed.:
Another thing I want to add about pinpoint is that everyone says it's so OP, but then only end up complaining about Degrom, Cabrera, etc. sounds to me like the real problem is outlier. Very rarely to you see a pinpoint complaint about Cliff Lee. Pinpoint is fine. Stamina with pinpoint, Outlier, and Sinkers are the problem. Sinkers haven't gotten fixed in 5 years so I've just accepted that one.
Fair point...Take out the 3-4 meta pitches and you have a fighting chance to overcome pinpoint
For me its only 2 meta pitches (and ones that are fundamentally broken). Outlier was a good idea but even Degrom in real life doesn't throw 102 every single pitch. We all know about sinkers there isn't much more to say about those. Cutters and sliders are good, but they are in a good place IMO. They are still hittable even with pinpoint. I'm just saying it seems like people are using pinpoint as a scapegoat for whats actually wrong with the game, which are sinkers, outlier fastballs, and what makes them hard to hit(P2P connections instead of dedicated servers).
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If it’s a strike you can hit it hard. So either lay off, get better. Don’t mean to be that guy but it’s true.
The biggest issue that I can’t understand how it hasn’t been fixed yet is stamina. If pitchers actually got tired there would be more benefit to working counts, leading to more hangers later in the game.
Stamina being broke is a bigger deal than just not having to use your pen. I think it’s a big reason why people are struggling.
