Joey Votto July POTM Card Please and Thank You
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@go4stros25_psn said in Joey Votto July POTM Card Please and Thank You:
@the_dragon1912 said in Joey Votto July POTM Card Please and Thank You:
You must not know much about the HOF voting if you think Votto is a solidified HOFer. Do I think he should be? Yes absolutely. But the old geezers that vote for that [censored] are just going to look at him, see not nearly as many hits and homers as Miggy and Pujols, and kick him on his way
It's a joke. A bunch of people who never played pro ball, or maybe even high school ball, sitting in an office deciding which players get to make the hall of fame.
The hall of fame is supposed to paint the picture of baseball history, not reflect the opinions of a group of nerds.
I agree with you completely. It should be voted on by groups of former players and coaches. The way it is now if you look at reporters the wrong way it might make them not vote for you. (I mean the same group of people voted Rick Porcello over Verlander, Kluber AND Britton for Cy young in 2016, they got to change something)
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@doobiebross66-72 said in Joey Votto July POTM Card Please and Thank You:
The man is unconscious right now! And doing it against the Cubs which just warms my heart.
Would love to see Votto get a POTM card, of my lifetime so far, he’s been my favorite Reds player and a solidified Hall of Famer at this point.
Maybe a 95+ diamond in the POTM Program?
Thing about Votto, who is having a pretty similar month to Goldschmidt, and not quite as good a month as Freeman (except for HRs) is that I believe that they will all get boosted Cards later on. Maybe Signature Series, or TA4, or maybe a Freeman MVP card. So, the question is will SDS want to devalue those future cards by giving one of them a POTM Card? Of the three, Freeman is the most deserving for his play this month.
Personally, I prefer to see the POTM cards go to players who probably have no other chance at a better card this year. Guys like Kyle Farmer or Harrison Bader.
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@doobiebross66-72 said in Joey Votto July POTM Card Please and Thank You:
The man is unconscious right now! And doing it against the Cubs which just warms my heart.
Would love to see Votto get a POTM card, of my lifetime so far, he’s been my favorite Reds player and a solidified Hall of Famer at this point.
Maybe a 95+ diamond in the POTM Program?
Awwwe we got a homer here!!! That’s absolutely precious!!!
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@dolenz_psn said in Joey Votto July POTM Card Please and Thank You:
@doobiebross66-72 said in Joey Votto July POTM Card Please and Thank You:
The man is unconscious right now! And doing it against the Cubs which just warms my heart.
Would love to see Votto get a POTM card, of my lifetime so far, he’s been my favorite Reds player and a solidified Hall of Famer at this point.
Maybe a 95+ diamond in the POTM Program?
Thing about Votto, who is having a pretty similar month to Goldschmidt, and not quite as good a month as Freeman (except for HRs) is that I believe that they will all get boosted Cards later on. Maybe Signature Series, or TA4, or maybe a Freeman MVP card. So, the question is will SDS want to devalue those future cards by giving one of them a POTM Card? Of the three, Freeman is the most deserving for his play this month.
Personally, I prefer to see the POTM cards go to players who probably have no other chance at a better card this year. Guys like Kyle Farmer or Harrison Bader.
If any of those get the POTM lightning it won't devalue any future cards for them, well, because another card wouldn't be released at that point
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@killerpresence4 said in Joey Votto July POTM Card Please and Thank You:
@doobiebross66-72 said in Joey Votto July POTM Card Please and Thank You:
The man is unconscious right now! And doing it against the Cubs which just warms my heart.
Would love to see Votto get a POTM card, of my lifetime so far, he’s been my favorite Reds player and a solidified Hall of Famer at this point.
Maybe a 95+ diamond in the POTM Program?
Awwwe we got a homer here!!! That’s absolutely precious!!!
Nothing wrong with being a homer and making the suggestion if it is warranted. It is not like Votto has not had an excellent month. .325 average, 9 HRs and a six consecutive game HR streak.
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@the_dragon1912 said in Joey Votto July POTM Card Please and Thank You:
@genopolanco_psn said in Joey Votto July POTM Card Please and Thank You:
He’s had an extremely similar career to Todd Helton. Do a side by side comparison.
And I don’t think Helton gets in, at least anytime soon.
I don't think Helton gets in unfortunately. I think the only reason Walker got in was because he had enough productive years in Montreal and St. Louis that they got over the Coors effect, which the voters take way too seriously
Hate to break it to you bud but the Coors effect is scientifically justified.
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@the_dragon1912 said in Joey Votto July POTM Card Please and Thank You:
@go4stros25_psn said in Joey Votto July POTM Card Please and Thank You:
@the_dragon1912 said in Joey Votto July POTM Card Please and Thank You:
You must not know much about the HOF voting if you think Votto is a solidified HOFer. Do I think he should be? Yes absolutely. But the old geezers that vote for that [censored] are just going to look at him, see not nearly as many hits and homers as Miggy and Pujols, and kick him on his way
It's a joke. A bunch of people who never played pro ball, or maybe even high school ball, sitting in an office deciding which players get to make the hall of fame.
The hall of fame is supposed to paint the picture of baseball history, not reflect the opinions of a group of nerds.
I agree with you completely. It should be voted on by groups of former players and coaches. The way it is now if you look at reporters the wrong way it might make them not vote for you. (I mean the same group of people voted Rick Porcello over Verlander, Kluber AND Britton for Cy young in 2016, they got to change something)
But on the opposite end of that, you see former players hold grudges too. You think Jordan would have voted for Isaiah Thomas for HOF?
I've also listened to Shaq say things about current players that are idiotic, as well as Keyshawn have no respect for Kyler Murray because of the Kingsbury offense.I would rather they have a combination of both, like they currently do with the writers and the veterans committee. But then, we get Harold Baines voted in, so who knows what the best method is, lol.
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@dolenz_psn said in Joey Votto July POTM Card Please and Thank You:
@killerpresence4 said in Joey Votto July POTM Card Please and Thank You:
@doobiebross66-72 said in Joey Votto July POTM Card Please and Thank You:
The man is unconscious right now! And doing it against the Cubs which just warms my heart.
Would love to see Votto get a POTM card, of my lifetime so far, he’s been my favorite Reds player and a solidified Hall of Famer at this point.
Maybe a 95+ diamond in the POTM Program?
Awwwe we got a homer here!!! That’s absolutely precious!!!
Nothing wrong with being a homer and making the suggestion if it is warranted. It is not like Votto has not had an excellent month. .325 average, 9 HRs and a six consecutive game HR streak.
I’m not saying that there is anything wrong with it, but a 10 game stretch doesn’t equal a months worth of production. There are guys out there with far better months than Votto. I mean Freddie Freeman is batting well over .400 for the month with 9 homers and a 10 game stretch where he literally swung and missed at a pitch zero times. And that’s just one guy with a better month. You’ve got others like Goldschmidt and Bader with better resumes for the month. Also, his claim about Votto being a sure fire HOF’er is a bit of a stretch. He is on the backside of his career and hasn’t even eclipse 2000 hits yet. He doesn’t play premium defense and hasn’t for several years and he plays first which is an offensive position. So saying he’s a HOF’er at this point is pipe dream. That’s just my take.
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@poksey_mlbts said in Joey Votto July POTM Card Please and Thank You:
@the_dragon1912 said in Joey Votto July POTM Card Please and Thank You:
@go4stros25_psn said in Joey Votto July POTM Card Please and Thank You:
@the_dragon1912 said in Joey Votto July POTM Card Please and Thank You:
You must not know much about the HOF voting if you think Votto is a solidified HOFer. Do I think he should be? Yes absolutely. But the old geezers that vote for that [censored] are just going to look at him, see not nearly as many hits and homers as Miggy and Pujols, and kick him on his way
It's a joke. A bunch of people who never played pro ball, or maybe even high school ball, sitting in an office deciding which players get to make the hall of fame.
The hall of fame is supposed to paint the picture of baseball history, not reflect the opinions of a group of nerds.
I agree with you completely. It should be voted on by groups of former players and coaches. The way it is now if you look at reporters the wrong way it might make them not vote for you. (I mean the same group of people voted Rick Porcello over Verlander, Kluber AND Britton for Cy young in 2016, they got to change something)
But on the opposite end of that, you see former players hold grudges too. You think Jordan would have voted for Isaiah Thomas for HOF?
I've also listened to Shaq say things about current players that are idiotic, as well as Keyshawn have no respect for Kyler Murray because of the Kingsbury offense.I would rather they have a combination of both, like they currently do with the writers and the veterans committee. But then, we get Harold Baines voted in, so who knows what the best method is, lol.
Yea I do believe Jordan would’ve voted for Isaiah Thomas to be a HOF’er. Just because they were bitter rivals doesn’t mean there wasn’t mutual respect.
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@killerpresence4 said in Joey Votto July POTM Card Please and Thank You:
@poksey_mlbts said in Joey Votto July POTM Card Please and Thank You:
@the_dragon1912 said in Joey Votto July POTM Card Please and Thank You:
@go4stros25_psn said in Joey Votto July POTM Card Please and Thank You:
@the_dragon1912 said in Joey Votto July POTM Card Please and Thank You:
You must not know much about the HOF voting if you think Votto is a solidified HOFer. Do I think he should be? Yes absolutely. But the old geezers that vote for that [censored] are just going to look at him, see not nearly as many hits and homers as Miggy and Pujols, and kick him on his way
It's a joke. A bunch of people who never played pro ball, or maybe even high school ball, sitting in an office deciding which players get to make the hall of fame.
The hall of fame is supposed to paint the picture of baseball history, not reflect the opinions of a group of nerds.
I agree with you completely. It should be voted on by groups of former players and coaches. The way it is now if you look at reporters the wrong way it might make them not vote for you. (I mean the same group of people voted Rick Porcello over Verlander, Kluber AND Britton for Cy young in 2016, they got to change something)
But on the opposite end of that, you see former players hold grudges too. You think Jordan would have voted for Isaiah Thomas for HOF?
I've also listened to Shaq say things about current players that are idiotic, as well as Keyshawn have no respect for Kyler Murray because of the Kingsbury offense.I would rather they have a combination of both, like they currently do with the writers and the veterans committee. But then, we get Harold Baines voted in, so who knows what the best method is, lol.
Yea I do believe Jordan would’ve voted for Isaiah Thomas to be a HOF’er. Just because they were bitter rivals doesn’t mean there wasn’t mutual respect.
He made sure he wasnt on the Olympic Dream Team even though he was deserving of being on it. I dont think that qualifies as respect.
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@poksey_mlbts said in Joey Votto July POTM Card Please and Thank You:
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@go4stros25_psn said in Joey Votto July POTM Card Please and Thank You:
@the_dragon1912 said in Joey Votto July POTM Card Please and Thank You:
You must not know much about the HOF voting if you think Votto is a solidified HOFer. Do I think he should be? Yes absolutely. But the old geezers that vote for that [censored] are just going to look at him, see not nearly as many hits and homers as Miggy and Pujols, and kick him on his way
It's a joke. A bunch of people who never played pro ball, or maybe even high school ball, sitting in an office deciding which players get to make the hall of fame.
The hall of fame is supposed to paint the picture of baseball history, not reflect the opinions of a group of nerds.
I agree with you completely. It should be voted on by groups of former players and coaches. The way it is now if you look at reporters the wrong way it might make them not vote for you. (I mean the same group of people voted Rick Porcello over Verlander, Kluber AND Britton for Cy young in 2016, they got to change something)
But on the opposite end of that, you see former players hold grudges too. You think Jordan would have voted for Isaiah Thomas for HOF?
I've also listened to Shaq say things about current players that are idiotic, as well as Keyshawn have no respect for Kyler Murray because of the Kingsbury offense.I would rather they have a combination of both, like they currently do with the writers and the veterans committee. But then, we get Harold Baines voted in, so who knows what the best method is, lol.
Yea I do believe Jordan would’ve voted for Isaiah Thomas to be a HOF’er. Just because they were bitter rivals doesn’t mean there wasn’t mutual respect.
He made sure he wasnt on the Olympic Dream Team even though he was deserving of being on it. I dont think that qualifies as respect.
That is a completely different situation, you’re comparing apples to oranges. In that situation they were trying to form a team that could gel together. We all know that those two did not like each other. Most of that because of the eastern conference finals battles in the early 90’s when Isaiah was leading one of the dirtiest teams in the league. It would be kind of hard for those two to form any sort of chemistry together in the Olympics given the short period of time those guys had to prepare for those Olympics.
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It would be pretty hard not to put him as one of the high cards for this month. a 37 year old who has a power resurgence always raises an eyebrow or two
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@speedy44_psn said in Joey Votto July POTM Card Please and Thank You:
It would be pretty hard not to put him as one of the high cards for this month. a 37 year old who has a power resurgence always raises an eyebrow or two
Oh I agree, not saying he doesn’t deserve a card but my previous post make the point that 10 games isn’t a month it’s just a real good week and a half.
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@killerpresence4 said in Joey Votto July POTM Card Please and Thank You:
@speedy44_psn said in Joey Votto July POTM Card Please and Thank You:
It would be pretty hard not to put him as one of the high cards for this month. a 37 year old who has a power resurgence always raises an eyebrow or two
Oh I agree, not saying he doesn’t deserve a card but my previous post make the point that 10 games isn’t a month it’s just a real good week and a half.
Ya and some very epic hits durin that cubs series and if we do have a Votto card I hope we can get one that dances around the bases when he hits a bomb
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@killerpresence4 said in Joey Votto July POTM Card Please and Thank You:
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@the_dragon1912 said in Joey Votto July POTM Card Please and Thank You:
@go4stros25_psn said in Joey Votto July POTM Card Please and Thank You:
@the_dragon1912 said in Joey Votto July POTM Card Please and Thank You:
You must not know much about the HOF voting if you think Votto is a solidified HOFer. Do I think he should be? Yes absolutely. But the old geezers that vote for that [censored] are just going to look at him, see not nearly as many hits and homers as Miggy and Pujols, and kick him on his way
It's a joke. A bunch of people who never played pro ball, or maybe even high school ball, sitting in an office deciding which players get to make the hall of fame.
The hall of fame is supposed to paint the picture of baseball history, not reflect the opinions of a group of nerds.
I agree with you completely. It should be voted on by groups of former players and coaches. The way it is now if you look at reporters the wrong way it might make them not vote for you. (I mean the same group of people voted Rick Porcello over Verlander, Kluber AND Britton for Cy young in 2016, they got to change something)
But on the opposite end of that, you see former players hold grudges too. You think Jordan would have voted for Isaiah Thomas for HOF?
I've also listened to Shaq say things about current players that are idiotic, as well as Keyshawn have no respect for Kyler Murray because of the Kingsbury offense.I would rather they have a combination of both, like they currently do with the writers and the veterans committee. But then, we get Harold Baines voted in, so who knows what the best method is, lol.
Yea I do believe Jordan would’ve voted for Isaiah Thomas to be a HOF’er. Just because they were bitter rivals doesn’t mean there wasn’t mutual respect.
He made sure he wasnt on the Olympic Dream Team even though he was deserving of being on it. I dont think that qualifies as respect.
That is a completely different situation, you’re comparing apples to oranges. In that situation they were trying to form a team that could gel together. We all know that those two did not like each other. Most of that because of the eastern conference finals battles in the early 90’s when Isaiah was leading one of the dirtiest teams in the league. It would be kind of hard for those two to form any sort of chemistry together in the Olympics given the short period of time those guys had to prepare for those Olympics.
Ok then, I will try another couple of current players. How about Harden voting for Giannis? I cant picture that one.
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@the_dragon1912 said in Joey Votto July POTM Card Please and Thank You:
You must not know much about the HOF voting if you think Votto is a solidified HOFer. Do I think he should be? Yes absolutely. But the old geezers that vote for that [censored] are just going to look at him, see not nearly as many hits and homers as Miggy and Pujols, and kick him on his way
It's a joke. A bunch of people who never played pro ball, or maybe even high school ball, sitting in an office deciding which players get to make the hall of fame.
The hall of fame is supposed to paint the picture of baseball history, not reflect the opinions of a group of nerds.
I agree with you completely. It should be voted on by groups of former players and coaches. The way it is now if you look at reporters the wrong way it might make them not vote for you. (I mean the same group of people voted Rick Porcello over Verlander, Kluber AND Britton for Cy young in 2016, they got to change something)
But on the opposite end of that, you see former players hold grudges too. You think Jordan would have voted for Isaiah Thomas for HOF?
I've also listened to Shaq say things about current players that are idiotic, as well as Keyshawn have no respect for Kyler Murray because of the Kingsbury offense.I would rather they have a combination of both, like they currently do with the writers and the veterans committee. But then, we get Harold Baines voted in, so who knows what the best method is, lol.
Yea I do believe Jordan would’ve voted for Isaiah Thomas to be a HOF’er. Just because they were bitter rivals doesn’t mean there wasn’t mutual respect.
He made sure he wasnt on the Olympic Dream Team even though he was deserving of being on it. I dont think that qualifies as respect.
That is a completely different situation, you’re comparing apples to oranges. In that situation they were trying to form a team that could gel together. We all know that those two did not like each other. Most of that because of the eastern conference finals battles in the early 90’s when Isaiah was leading one of the dirtiest teams in the league. It would be kind of hard for those two to form any sort of chemistry together in the Olympics given the short period of time those guys had to prepare for those Olympics.
Ok then, I will try another couple of current players. How about Harden voting for Giannis? I cant picture that one.
Like I said, most players can appreciate a players skill and career achievements without liking the individual. Especially when it comes to accolades such as the HOF. And what we see on the court isn’t necessarily what happens off the court. Remember that being a professional athlete is like being part of a special fraternity. That is not something most of those guys take lightly.
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@the_dragon1912 said in Joey Votto July POTM Card Please and Thank You:
You must not know much about the HOF voting if you think Votto is a solidified HOFer. Do I think he should be? Yes absolutely. But the old geezers that vote for that [censored] are just going to look at him, see not nearly as many hits and homers as Miggy and Pujols, and kick him on his way
It's a joke. A bunch of people who never played pro ball, or maybe even high school ball, sitting in an office deciding which players get to make the hall of fame.
The hall of fame is supposed to paint the picture of baseball history, not reflect the opinions of a group of nerds.
I agree with you completely. It should be voted on by groups of former players and coaches. The way it is now if you look at reporters the wrong way it might make them not vote for you. (I mean the same group of people voted Rick Porcello over Verlander, Kluber AND Britton for Cy young in 2016, they got to change something)
But on the opposite end of that, you see former players hold grudges too. You think Jordan would have voted for Isaiah Thomas for HOF?
I've also listened to Shaq say things about current players that are idiotic, as well as Keyshawn have no respect for Kyler Murray because of the Kingsbury offense.I would rather they have a combination of both, like they currently do with the writers and the veterans committee. But then, we get Harold Baines voted in, so who knows what the best method is, lol.
Yea I do believe Jordan would’ve voted for Isaiah Thomas to be a HOF’er. Just because they were bitter rivals doesn’t mean there wasn’t mutual respect.
He made sure he wasnt on the Olympic Dream Team even though he was deserving of being on it. I dont think that qualifies as respect.
That is a completely different situation, you’re comparing apples to oranges. In that situation they were trying to form a team that could gel together. We all know that those two did not like each other. Most of that because of the eastern conference finals battles in the early 90’s when Isaiah was leading one of the dirtiest teams in the league. It would be kind of hard for those two to form any sort of chemistry together in the Olympics given the short period of time those guys had to prepare for those Olympics.
Ok then, I will try another couple of current players. How about Harden voting for Giannis? I cant picture that one.
Like I said, most players can appreciate a players skill and career achievements without liking the individual. Especially when it comes to accolades such as the HOF. And what we see on the court isn’t necessarily what happens off the court. Remember that being a professional athlete is like being part of a special fraternity. That is not something most of those guys take lightly.
"I wish I could be 7-feet, run and just dunk. That takes no skill at all," Harden said. "I gotta actually learn how to play basketball and how to have skill. I'll take that any day."
I dont think he respects him, lol.
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@killerpresence4 said in Joey Votto July POTM Card Please and Thank You:
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The man is unconscious right now! And doing it against the Cubs which just warms my heart.
Would love to see Votto get a POTM card, of my lifetime so far, he’s been my favorite Reds player and a solidified Hall of Famer at this point.
Maybe a 95+ diamond in the POTM Program?
Awwwe we got a homer here!!! That’s absolutely precious!!!
Nothing wrong with being a homer and making the suggestion if it is warranted. It is not like Votto has not had an excellent month. .325 average, 9 HRs and a six consecutive game HR streak.
I’m not saying that there is anything wrong with it, but a 10 game stretch doesn’t equal a months worth of production. There are guys out there with far better months than Votto. I mean Freddie Freeman is batting well over .400 for the month with 9 homers and a 10 game stretch where he literally swung and missed at a pitch zero times. And that’s just one guy with a better month. You’ve got others like Goldschmidt and Bader with better resumes for the month. Also, his claim about Votto being a sure fire HOF’er is a bit of a stretch. He is on the backside of his career and hasn’t even eclipse 2000 hits yet. He doesn’t play premium defense and hasn’t for several years and he plays first which is an offensive position. So saying he’s a HOF’er at this point is pipe dream. That’s just my take.
Freeman is batting .375 after todays game and he only has 6 HR and 14 RBIs
Goldschmidt is batting .326 with 6 HR and 13 RBIs
Votto is batting .329 with 10 HRs and 24 RBIsVotto is every bit as deserving as the other two
But as I said, I would rather see someone like Bader (me being a homer) or Kyle Farmer, who happens to have a higher BA than Freeman after todays games, get the nod. Give the guys who won't get a diamond any other way this year the opportunity to be the POTM lightening card.
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7 straight games! He’s gotta get a card now I mean come on
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