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    @boogiewithstu2 said in Severely disappointed:

    Hey man, what version do you like the most since the newer ones you aren’t liking ?

    The show 12 H2H hitting rewards were the best. Obviously a ton of other problems but yeah it was before online really took off and DD didn't exist.

    All of these problems that people complain about is not something crazy complicated to fix. All they have to do is adjust the sliders on foul balls and solid human hits

    Be honest with yourself and think about how many foul balls you get per AB on terrible SWINGS. Really not a hard concept for people to be rewarded for a good swing and penalized for a bad one.

    My point is that there are multiple chances PER AB, for the user to record an out.. Rather than having a good timing/contact swing go for an out.

    The worst part about squaring up a ball and recording an out in this game, is that 95% of the time you hit it right at someone. What happened to the old expression "he took that hit away"

    Literally all they have to do is tune the sliders and then the user well feel like the outcome is in their control. It would eliminate 90% of the complaints..

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    I get frustrated as well, but baseball is basically a game of mathematical equations based on a ton of variables and outcomes. And even then, there's going to be randomness. I don't know how you expect a true to life representation of the game without it centering on math/physics and yes, randomness.. And you can't say that every time the swing variable is X that it results in the Y outcome because you remove randomness which exists in the real game. And that's just the basics of trying to re-create baseball in video game form. You also have to factor in the attributes of the players and how they interact with each other or else they would be meaningless.

    At the end of the day I think you have slightly unrealistic expectations as baseball is a tremendously hard game to re-create. There's pretty much no way to create the game without it being math centric. It'd be an even worse experience.

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    @ericg819_psn said in Severely disappointed:

    You may have a 50-50 chance to get a hit on good contact and that's being gracious, prob more like 30-70.

    The greatest players in history:

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    This year's game really did a good job weeding out the Simulation Franchise players from the casual online people.....Franchise and its core gameplay is the best it has ever been and I'm guessing from all the complaints about servers and losing DD pokimon cards, you online arcade players aren't happy. So I hope this continues going forward, keep maturing the Show into a Simulation baseball game instead of a simple pick up and play card collecting arcade game. Thanks SDS!

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    @joshjays44_psn said in Severely disappointed:

    This year's game really did a good job weeding out the Simulation Franchise players from the casual online people.....Franchise and its core gameplay is the best it has ever been and I'm guessing from all the complaints about servers and losing DD pokimon cards, you online arcade players aren't happy. So I hope this continues going forward, keep maturing the Show into a Simulation baseball game instead of a simple pick up and play card collecting arcade game. Thanks SDS!

    Of course a clown such as yourself attacks a person's character and totally ignores all topics of discussion..
    I know it's such a terrible concept for you to imagine people being penalized for a bad swing and rewarded for a good one.

    If that makes it an arcade game then so be it. You are playing a video game against another human being, user input should be the deciding factor.

    If people wanted to see a random result from a baseball hitting a bat, then they would watch a real game. If we wanted a simulated baseball experience, we would play the computer.

    There's absolutely no reason why people are being punished for good timing and contact, then get rewarded for terrible swings with a foul ball or weak base hit..

    You don't need to have your PCI near the ball to hit a HR and you don't even need to have good timing or be anywhere near the ball with your PCI to get a foul.

    It's because of people like you, the bunt cheese becomes a factor every few years and why the game is stuck with these sliders settings.

    Why not just create a separate ranked seasons mode where user input is the key? That way clowns like you, who need bumpers to play the game, can still play against other people and feel good?

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    @ericg819_psn said in Severely disappointed:

    @joshjays44_psn said in Severely disappointed:

    This year's game really did a good job weeding out the Simulation Franchise players from the casual online people.....Franchise and its core gameplay is the best it has ever been and I'm guessing from all the complaints about servers and losing DD pokimon cards, you online arcade players aren't happy. So I hope this continues going forward, keep maturing the Show into a Simulation baseball game instead of a simple pick up and play card collecting arcade game. Thanks SDS!

    Of course a clown such as yourself attacks a person's character and totally ignores all topics of discussion..
    I know it's such a terrible concept for you to imagine people being penalized for a bad swing and rewarded for a good one.

    If that makes it an arcade game then so be it. You are playing a video game against another human being, user input should be the deciding factor.

    If people wanted to see a random result from a baseball hitting a bat, then they would watch a real game. If we wanted a simulated baseball experience, we would play the computer.

    There's absolutely no reason why people are being punished for good timing and contact, then get rewarded for terrible swings with a foul ball or weak base hit..

    You don't need to have your PCI near the ball to hit a HR and you don't even need to have good timing or be anywhere near the ball with your PCI to get a foul.

    It's because of people like you, the bunt cheese becomes a factor every few years and why the game is stuck with these sliders settings.

    Why not just create a separate ranked seasons mode where user input is the key? That way clowns like you, who need bumpers to play the game, can still play against other people and feel good?

    that's where algorithm and RNG takes place and has for years, so what about when pitcher has perfect release and perfect timing on their pitch and hits intended spot?? Your telling me batter input should over ride all that?

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    @savefarris_psn said in Severely disappointed:

    @ericg819_psn said in Severely disappointed:

    You may have a 50-50 chance to get a hit on good contact and that's being gracious, prob more like 30-70.

    The greatest players in history:

    So what's your point? We are playing a video game. If I wanted to see a simulated baseball experience I would just watch a real game.

    There is a reason why some baseball players make it to the major leagues and others don't. It's because of a thing called skill gap.

    So what if a guy is batting .700? That just means he is timing the ball correct and putting his PCI in the proper location.

    You see 1 diving defensive play out of 50 games played. Why not make people actually play defense to take away a hit? If you are all about what happens in real baseball then you should want to see more people take away a hit.

    Don't even get me started on the animation dives. You literally don't even have to push a button and the computer will make a diving play for you.

    95% of your foul ball swings is a terrible swing and should be recorded as an out or swing and miss. There's no reason, especially since pinpoint pitching exist now, for well-timed swings and contact to be hit right at someone so they don't have to move.

    I know it's such a crazy concept to want user input to decide the outcome.

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    @hustlinowl_psn said in Severely disappointed:

    that's where algorithm and RNG takes place and has for years, so what about when pitcher has perfect release and perfect timing on their pitch and hits intended spot?? Your telling me batter input should over ride all that?

    It's physics. Doesn't matter if a picture perfectly locates a ball, if a barrel and timing is correct the ball is going to go somewhere.

    Did you see Rafael Devers hit Aroldis Chapman's 103mph fb? Doesn't matter how perfect of a pitch, if you square something up, there's nothing you can do about it.

    Plus all of this gets fixed with just sliders being tuned!! Not allow so many foul balls and to have solid human hits boosted..

    People will get used to being penalized for swinging poorly and stop swinging at [censored]. It will also cause a lot more Ks from swing-and-misses and people getting painted. It will even itself out, it's not like this is going to change the game radically.

    Not a terrible thought for them to give us Hall of Fame event, with the sliders tuned differently, and ask for a poll to which the community felt had the best result

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    Update; after taking two weeks off I decided to purchase the game again for the following reasons.

    I spent too much money on stubs at the beginning of the year 2 not get something from it

    I have collected every show disc dating all the way back to 07

    In the most recent title updat,e it seems that they almost speak directly at me, when they say hitting issues will be addressed

    Lastly, they had a used copy at GameStop for 35 bucks when I was buying my new black controller

    I'm just going to go on Discord and find a online franchise with the sliders adjusted for user input deciding the outcome. Hopefully playing catch-up on the monthly Rewards and finding a suitable online League will kill the time until the next title update

    I really do love this game and I hope my Hiatus is what I needed start enjoying it again

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    @ericg819_psn said in Severely disappointed:

    Update; after taking two weeks off I decided to purchase the game again for the following reasons.

    I spent too much money on stubs at the beginning of the year 2 not get something from it

    I have collected every show disc dating all the way back to 07

    In the most recent title updat,e it seems that they almost speak directly at me, when they say hitting issues will be addressed

    Lastly, they had a used copy at GameStop for 35 bucks when I was buying my new black controller

    I'm just going to go on Discord and find a online franchise with the sliders adjusted for user input deciding the outcome. Hopefully playing catch-up on the monthly Rewards and finding a suitable online League will kill the time until the next title update

    I really do love this game and I hope my Hiatus is what I needed start enjoying it again

    lol bruh

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    this is me shutting my eyes slowly and opening them slowly into a gigantic eye roll

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    @jmcdonald1817 said in Severely disappointed:

      this is me shutting my eyes slowly and opening them slowly into a gigantic eye roll
    

    I knnnnooowwwww, but at least look at this before you judge too heavy... I really do have all the games

    https://twitter.com/19egirard8/status/1413515615512322062?s=19

    Weren't you the one that suggested I use Discord for an online franchise with adjusted sliders? I read the patch notes today and I saw they are going to address the hitting so I figured why.

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    @ericg819_psn said in Severely disappointed:

    @jmcdonald1817 said in Severely disappointed:

      this is me shutting my eyes slowly and opening them slowly into a gigantic eye roll
    

    I knnnnooowwwww, but at least look at this before you judge too heavy... I really do have all the games

    https://twitter.com/19egirard8/status/1413515615512322062?s=19

    Weren't you the one that suggested I use Discord for an online franchise with adjusted sliders? I read the patch notes today and I saw they are going to address the hitting so I figured why.

    that was not me

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    @hustlinowl_psn said in Severely disappointed:

    lol bruh

    Oops this was supposed to go to you

    I knnnnooowwwww, but at least look at this before you judge too heavy... I really do have all the games

    https://twitter.com/19egirard8/status/1413515615512322062?s=19

    Weren't you the one that suggested I use Discord for an online franchise with adjusted sliders? I read the patch notes today and I saw they are going to address the hitting so I figured why.

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    @ericg819_psn said in Severely disappointed:

    @hustlinowl_psn said in Severely disappointed:

    lol bruh

    Oops this was supposed to go to you

    I knnnnooowwwww, but at least look at this before you judge too heavy... I really do have all the games

    https://twitter.com/19egirard8/status/1413515615512322062?s=19

    Weren't you the one that suggested I use Discord for an online franchise with adjusted sliders? I read the patch notes today and I saw they are going to address the hitting so I figured why.

    yes online leagues, they are not franchise however

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    @jmcdonald1817 said in Severely disappointed:

    that was not me

    Sorry I corrected it, was supposed to go to owl. I agree to your eye roll, because I did that exact same thing when I told the girl to add the used copy to my purchase 🙄😐

    At least you do see that I have all the games going back to its release. Also take notice the unwarranted Aaron judge cover has been removed for logical reasons 😁😎🤣🤣

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    @hustlinowl_psn said in Severely disappointed:

    yes online leagues, they are not franchise however

    Right. Either way the last title update said they are going to address hitting so I have cooled down enough to give them their chance to repent

    Thanks again for suggesting that and for being respectful during my complaints!

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    @ericg819_psn said in Severely disappointed:

    @hustlinowl_psn said in Severely disappointed:

    yes online leagues, they are not franchise however

    Right. Either way the last title update said they are going to address hitting so I have cooled down enough to give them their chance to repent

    Thanks again for suggesting that and for being respectful during my complaints!

    lol all good and like most they always come back just bustin balls nothing serious

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    @hustlinowl_psn said in Severely disappointed:

    lol all good and like most they always come back just bustin balls nothing serious

    Yeah man, as you should!!! Pretty hefty rant to buy the game again in two weeks, I agree LOL. I said in my original post I would come back from good marketing, I guess all I needed to see was them actually acknowledging my complaints.

    Obviously I know they are not specifically talking to me, but it just seems a fix to my rant potentially could be coming.

    Honestly if I find an active online league where the sliders are adjusted correctly, I really don't even care if they fix the other game modes because I will be able to play peacefully

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    @ericg819_psn said in Severely disappointed:

    @joshjays44_psn said in Severely disappointed:

    This year's game really did a good job weeding out the Simulation Franchise players from the casual online people.....Franchise and its core gameplay is the best it has ever been and I'm guessing from all the complaints about servers and losing DD pokimon cards, you online arcade players aren't happy. So I hope this continues going forward, keep maturing the Show into a Simulation baseball game instead of a simple pick up and play card collecting arcade game. Thanks SDS!

    Of course a clown such as yourself attacks a person's character and totally ignores all topics of discussion..
    I know it's such a terrible concept for you to imagine people being penalized for a bad swing and rewarded for a good one.

    If that makes it an arcade game then so be it. You are playing a video game against another human being, user input should be the deciding factor.

    If people wanted to see a random result from a baseball hitting a bat, then they would watch a real game. If we wanted a simulated baseball experience, we would play the computer.

    There's absolutely no reason why people are being punished for good timing and contact, then get rewarded for terrible swings with a foul ball or weak base hit..

    You don't need to have your PCI near the ball to hit a HR and you don't even need to have good timing or be anywhere near the ball with your PCI to get a foul.

    It's because of people like you, the bunt cheese becomes a factor every few years and why the game is stuck with these sliders settings.

    Why not just create a separate ranked seasons mode where user input is the key? That way clowns like you, who need bumpers to play the game, can still play against other people and feel good?

    Dude what are you talking about?...I don't play cheesy nooby online DD stuff. I wouldn't dare play online with all the cheating and people that have no idea what a simulated realistic way of playing baseball is suppose to be. Plus all the slow pitch speeds and default slider stuff online...online play is completely disgusting to me. The way I play would make you cry and throw your controller against a wall with frustration....playing on Legend with pitch speeds maxed with a realistic Slider set is the only way I would play this game. So don't go bottle me in with all the online people that cheat and cheese and have no idea how what baseball is.

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